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    Which of the 700 series are actually better than the 600 series?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mckenziepiping, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. mckenziepiping

    mckenziepiping Notebook Consultant

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    So, we all know that nVidia doesn't follow a coherent naming system for their video cards. That is, higher numbers and/or more letters doesn't mean better performance. That said, what are the current 5 best non-SLI video cards for notebooks?

    I know that the 780M takes the cake, but it seems that the rest of the 700-series are all worse than the 680M and 680MX. I am using Computer Games on Laptop Graphic Cards - NotebookCheck.net Tech as a reference.

    I've been ready to buy a laptop for about 10 days now and I was waiting for the Haswell processors and 700-series GPUs to be released. So far, it looks like I've been waiting for nothing.

    If I'm looking at getting a Clevo-based laptop for around $1500, which video card is a realistic option given that the remaining stats I'm considering are:

    - 4th Generation (Haswell) processor
    - 8GB RAM
    - 128 SSD
    - 750 GB HDD

    I had been previously interested in the Clevo P170EM, but that has been discontinued and now I'm trying to find something similar with the newest processor and video card.
     
  2. alexUW

    alexUW Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 2nd number indicates the performance tier of the GPU; the 1st number is the generation.
    The MX is mainly to describe the "Kepler replacement" of the Fermi based card; kepler would offer improved efficiency and better performance [although I believe the GTX 680m and GTX 680mx are both Kepler].
    This info alone should be enough to act as a guide in helping you decide which GPU is best for your needs.

    Ultimately the decision is yours. Buy the best card you can afford. If you can obtain the GTX 780m, then that's great!
     
  3. hfm

    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    Here it is top to bottom.. stopping at the 650M since what's below that doesn't really matter...

    780M
    680MX
    680M
    770M
    675MX
    675M
    765M
    670MX
    670M
    760M
    750M
    660M
    745M
    650M
     
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    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    Being at the bottom of that list makes me sad :( stupid money
     
  5. ian84

    ian84 Notebook Geek

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    650m @768p is similiar to some high end card (the one which is 40% more performance than 650m) @1080p at the same setting.
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Not quite but close.
     
  7. ian84

    ian84 Notebook Geek

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    Sure Meaker, i believe different experience too from FHD screen with overall better display than HD :thumbsup:

    I am satisfied with my current gt 650m performance in HD.. now i am watching this 765m + FHD notebooks that provide bang for bucks..
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Typically the high end can do high settings + AA/AF where as the mid range will do high 768p but without the AA/AF
     
  9. MorejaSparda

    MorejaSparda Notebook Guru

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    And let us not forget whis is the "joker res" for me: 1600x900 :D
    The missing link between sharpness & performance experience ( and specially in a "small " 15" screen )
    With the next 770m i suppose will be a good combo
     
  10. Hybrys

    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

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    As for the newer cards, I made this little chart a while ago.

    750m: 1.00 - 2800
    765m: 1.45 - 4100
    770m: 1.85 - 5200
    8970m: 2.85 - 7900
    780m: 2.85 - 7900

    Someone might like to argue that the 780m is faster than the 8970m, but... The 780m average score has actually done down to 7750, with a low of 7450 (!). Hell, even last gen, 2x 7970m beats 2x 680m, stock to stock.
     
  11. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    There is no argument to be had. The 780M is 25-30% faster than the 680M. That's the only statistic I need to objectively know that the 780M is faster than the 8970M.

    Oh yeah and the 8970M is identical to the 7970M. That's checkmate.
     
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    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

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    We'll see more when more benchmarks come down the line. Because everything about it right now is saying otherwise.

    Also, wasn't 25-30% inflated, and more realistically 15-20%?
     
  13. baii

    baii Sone

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    What are the price range of machine with 670m/675m now? Seem like Hasewell standard form factor 15" machine with 750m/760m is pretty over-priced.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The power advantage is huge though.
     
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    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

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    Those ratios are based on 3DMark11 scores? If so, that illustrates the inutility of canned benchmarking when comparing actual game performance. In games (those little pieces of software that actually matter for GPUs), 780m results have shown to be around >25% 7970m, so should be >20% 8970m.

    I won't digress into a debate on dual cards, but I've owned two rigs each of dual 7970ms and 680ms (m18x, p370em) and the superiority of the in-game experience on 680m SLI was pretty clear.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Part of it is that 3dmark 11 P score is insensitive to bandwidth, one of the major advantages the 780M has.
     
  17. hfm

    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    Not sure, I would just end up searching Google which anyone can do.
     
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    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    LOL you are joking right?
     
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    mckenziepiping Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you for this. Could you please tell me what resource you used to establish this list?
     
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    mckenziepiping Notebook Consultant

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    Notebook / Laptop Reviews and News - NotebookCheck.net

    It's a decent resource. I'm not 100% a fan of how they scale their benchmarks since they tend to stray away from typical native resolution for some of the low/medium tests when that's not typically what you want to do to scale performance. You definitely want to turn off some candy before you go away from native resolution. But their list is generally accurate, especially between GPU of the same brand. Once you start comparing ATI vs nVidia it can swing one way or the other depending on what software or application you are measuring.