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    Who else hates the ending to Half-Life: Episode 2?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by War-Crimes, Apr 13, 2008.

  1. War-Crimes

    War-Crimes Notebook Consultant

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    I finally took the time to beat it, and can't believe what happened :eek: .

    Even though this leaves even more suspense for Episode 3.

    Anyone else shocked at it?
     
  2. Dinosaur.rar

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    ets not spoil it for others but yes it was shocking, but the usefulness of "that" character was mostly gone.
     
  3. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    I thought the ending was risky, but it demonstrated great maturity in the industry, which is only just getting out of its teenage years.

    You hated the ending emotionally, I don't think you 'hated it'.
     
  4. Ever.monk

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    I definitely agree with you there. In my opinion the HL2 series has some of the best and most mature games out there. It just oozes from production value, such as how well characters are built up. The fact that they could effectively pull of an ending like the end of HL2 ep2 is proof of that.

    I seriously can't wait for episode 3, but on the other hand as 3 is the last in the series i don't want the series to end!
     
  5. eleron911

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    Dude,it`s bound to happen.
    Everyone who played HL2 EP2 knows that Dog dies.

















    NOT :D
     
  6. knightingmagic

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    I still haven't played it, because the Orange Box games requires a DX8 level graphics card/chip :p
     
  7. Burning Balls

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    Perfect response there.

    I am very happy that the gaming industry is becoming more mature in terms of storyline... I mean look at Valve, Bioshock, and even COD4. With games like HL2 and COD4, we are really starting to catch up with the movie industry.

    I don't like films/games where the storyline is too shallow, and it's all about "everyone lives happily ever after" with no plot at all. It's completely unrealistic and boring... what's the point of watching a movie if you know exactly how it's going to end.

    The OP should consider that if the ending of Ep2 made him so emotional, then by definition it is a good ending. This means that they have successfully pulled you into the storyline, and made you care about the characters.


    I hate the mentality in which people need happy endings or else they will "hate" the movie. It's ridiculous, just look at the best rated movies of all time and see that none of them are happy go lucky cookie-cutter plotlines.
     
  8. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    And the US is about fifteen years behind Japan in terms of game maturity.
     
  9. DamnYouBlueScreen

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    I only hate the ending because Episode 3 won't be out for a very long time. Too much of a gameplay gap.

    I enjoyed playing The Orange Box on my PS3. The ending definetely had an emotional impact on me, getting me to care about the characters.

    Personally, I was especially pissed about what happened in the early part of Episode 2 *coughhunterscough*
     
  10. Ever.monk

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    Can you really call the spiky hair and extremely exposed women in many japanese games mature?!?! And i then refer to the FF series, dragon quest, and every other japanese rpg.
     
  11. MrWhereItsAt

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    Or is that only the Japanese-made games that are easily available/well-known in the US?
     
  12. Ever.monk

    Ever.monk Notebook Consultant

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    True true. And on the other side, these japanese rpgs are often fairly good as far as story development. If we look at FFVII, it was one of the first games that really had good character development and that made good use of it. That was around 10 years ago though, so maybe the US market has caught up quality-wise.
     
  13. Darkfly

    Darkfly Notebook Consultant

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    I like it cause I haven't played it yet :D
     
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    I hope that EP3 is the last and then they concentrate on doing a full Half Life 3 game
     
  15. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Looks like someone needs to play more Japanese games. Might I suggest one to begin with? Try Metal Gear Solid.
     
  16. Prasad

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    It's not a bad ending! Infact it's a good ending, considering Ep3 is yet to arrive! :D Keeps up amazing suspense.... ;)

    Don't you know ? Ep3 IS the last one... :) And the "secret weapon" in that sunken (?) ship in Ep3 would probably be the Portal gun! :D And Portal 2 should arrive along with Ep3 IMO. But this is all speculation among whatever I've read on various forums. Last I heard, Ep3 was being intentionally delayed....
     
  17. StormEffect

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    I heard they were essentially trashing the "episode" idea and going for a full on "Half-Life 3" instead. They really want what was going to be "episode 3" to be as epic as the original HL2, and also they probably want to make it just as long.
     
  18. eleron911

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    So make it then!
    Half Life 3 it is...
    Take the famouse series : Quake, Heroes of Might and Magic, Might and magic,diablo,starcraft...
    All good games have sequels,some more than others :D
    I love sequels,it`s the story that`s the most important to me.
     
  19. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    As others have said... the story, characters, acting, gameplay and production value in any HL game is #1 (IMHO). The ending to HL2 Ep2 was excellent! I would love it if HL3 was a full game and not just another expansion. That would be sick!

    It is nice to see some games with more emphasis on good stories and characters like Bioshock and a few others. Those games really stand out. They are like good books. You can keep going back to them over and over. It doesn't matter that you know the end or exactly when a bad guy is going to pop out at you. The thrill of the ride is done well enough that it's like the 1st time everytime :)
     
  20. frozenarcticguy

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    Cool, thanks for the news
     
  21. Ever.monk

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    Beautifully said. It is games like this which elevate computer gaming to a higher level.

    Long live valve!

    P.S. long live blizzard too ^^
     
  22. Bigs

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    Only if they get off their collective arse and make Diablo III (couldn't really care less about StarCraft 2)...

    AND NOT AS AN MMORPG!
     
  23. StormEffect

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    They are going to have to do something pretty spectacular, considering Titan Quest already filled the bill for "modern game with diablo style gameplay".
     
  24. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    It's Blizzard, of course it will be spectacular :D
     
  25. bubba_000

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    I liked the ending alot. But then again, i like sad stories. I don't believe in happy endings. If you think that's sad and emotional, try dreamfall.
     
  26. eleron911

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    I don`t hate the ending, if I think about it. It`s like a good book.
    I am actually thinking of replaying the whole Half Life 2 series on hard , just for the story.I forget fast :D
     
  27. Jalf

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    Haha yeah, that was the saddest... ending.... ever!
     
  28. Doodles

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    the ending, was necessary... AND the rest of the story was UNBELIEVEABLE... they started connecting the G-man to OTHER charactes besides gordon, they connected PORTAL into it. It leaves up such an amazing storyline to come... OOH im just giddy thinking about it!
     
  29. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Make sure to get the Fakefactory Cinematic Mod! Yes play it on Hard this time. It's not really hard. I found the Striders in Ep 2 to be the hardest part of any HL game. Well that and the end of HL 1.
     
  30. Jlbrightbill

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    Definitely, when I got to the strider battle and killed the first one, then found out there were more, I was like "Holy **** how the hell am I supposed to do this for all of them?" You pretty much have to kill the hunters with your car since you run out of powerful ammo after like 2-3 hunters. Easily the hardest part of any Half Life game so far, but so much fun.
     
  31. eleron911

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    Stampeding hunters are no match for nitro buggy :D
     
  32. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Yup that's what I did too. Was kinda fun running down those buggers! :D
     
  33. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    Wait, so you guys didn't just use the experimental pineapple launcher to take out the hunters? What else was it for?
     
  34. eleron911

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    Na,the pineapple was for eating and having a blast :D
     
  35. dmacfour

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    I hope they go back to making full games, I'm not much for this episodic stuff.
     
  36. Jlbrightbill

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    Striders, yes, hunters, no. Evidently it worked pretty well for me because I didn't get a single strider-approaching-the-base warning.
     
  37. StormEffect

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    They did. Ep3 will be a full-on HL2 length 'end' to the series.

    DOH! I am such a newb!
     
  38. Jlbrightbill

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    They both end in -er so I can't blame you too much. ;)

    Hunters were a great addition to the series in my opinion, they're a great enemy. Annoying to battle but in a good way.
     
  39. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Agreed, they are a formidable foe compared to the usual Combine pawn. One thing though... did anybody ever get the achievement "Kill a Hunter With It's Own Flashettes"? I tried a number of things and never got anywhere except dead.
     
  40. Jlbrightbill

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    I saw a walkthrough that told you how to do it... I can't remember what it said though. The one I could never get was kill a zombine with his own grenade. I stole some zombine grenades so I got that achievement, but even when I stole one and killed the zombine with it, I never got that achievement. I'll try to find the instructions again and post them.
     
  41. eleron911

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    Oh do tell. As soon as I re-finish HL1 source, I want to do all the things I did not do before in HL2.