Who here has a HALO in TF2?

So I booted up Team Fortress 2 today and instantly I got a Halo hat. I was like ok what did I do, so it turns out all of us you did not do the idle servers recieved on.

Whats funny is that the server I was playing on only me and two other people were wearing it, lol....

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787

 

i got one.

 

Ooh I should boot TF2 up real quick. I never did that idling thing, so hopefully I get one.

 

lol thats funny, I did it for a few hours one day dont know if its enough to prevent me from getting it.

I have not played in a long while anyways.

 

"Cheater's Lament" It sounds more like a booby prize for cheaters that can't be removed from inventory.

 

ha ha....you said booby.

anywho since that was probably pointless and ill get in trouble for it, ill say something important sounding:

lament means something like sorrow or dismay, so it is a cheaters dismay, cause the idlers dont get it, and the stuff they got from idling got taken away, making them even more dismayed.

 

I got it by just loading up the game and clicking on the "Character Info" section. Neat.

 

Just to clear up something if the game has a bug and you use it thats not cheating thats exploiting

Idlers were exploiting a game flaw not cheating.

A cheater is somebody that goes so far as to do packet editing or something and force the game to give them what they want.

 

The guy that made the idling program was a major contributor to the steam community. He even contacted valve on multiple occasions asking if the program was acceptable. One of the TF2 guys said publicly that they wouldn't take action against it but they never directly responded to his emails.

Another note, idling in a real TF2 server is ok, but using the program apparently is not. Valve supports burning an extra 100w an hour to idle.

I idled, I didn't get a hat. I earned every one of my achievements and got all of my items legit. I've been playing since the pre-order beta. I'm also one of the many vet players that still don't have a hat while the noobs get them through the crappy random system.

I didn't really experience any loss or gain here, but I'm disappointed by valve. I've seen people who lost items but never idled. I think they should have thought things through a little more. There was no cheating going on. Valve is dicing up their community as we speak.

 

At the end of the day though, do hats really matter? Sure they can be cool, but I mean is it something to really make a huge deal out of?

For the record, I am similar to tizzao in that I have been playing TF2 for a long time and got (almost) all my items through achievements (I only farmed the some of the medic ones ), and I didn't receive any hats through the random system. The only one I "got" was the halo for not idling. I do have 5 Nataschas and nothing to do with them though

 

i have 6 of those things. i dont like them.

 

The good news is that in the TF2 blog, they state that they're working on different ways to do things with your extra items, so hopefully something good pops up soon.

Source: http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787

 

I did not get a halo, i used the idle server like twice to try to get a hat, all i got were duplicate weapons that i deleted straight away.

The problem is still there with the low drop rate, people will just move onto idle servers instead. All the halo has done is make some players aim for people with halos first and some medics refuse to heal them (Actually saw this on a server earlier, Jesus guys its just a digital hat get over yourselves).


Also there have been issues where innocent players lose unlocks they got legitimately and i've noticed that sometimes a spy doesn't lose his halo when cloaked, which makes my job easier

 

Yea, I'd rather have some weapons than hats anyways. I don't plan on using the halo (unless it made me god-like or something, which it doesn't).

 

LoLz =D

 

I am a dirty idler, and did not get the Halo. It's interesting if you look at the Steam forums; the community is completely split into factions; those with halos are refusing to heal those without them and vice versa. It's quite amusing, really.

I got one hat as a result of using the idle program for several months (the Spy's Fancy Fedora, for the record), which I've now lost. I'm really not too bothered, though.

I am just surprised at the way Valve chose to handle it. If they had simply asked Drunken_f00l, the creator of the idle program, to shut it down, he would have complied in a heartbeat. Instead, they make it against the rules to use it, and retroactively punish everyone who used it. That's called ex post facto punishment, and is actually not allowed in the US legal system.

 

I got it. =]=]=]

 

The program ran outside of the game and simulated the game running and in a server so that the players could make the system think they were playing 24/7 to get an advantage over regular players who could care less about a pointless hat and just enjoy playing the game. It was cheating, and those people who didn't get the halo are lucky that they haven't gotten banned from the game.

What part of using an external program that makes the system think your doing something that you aren't, not cheating? It's in the steam EULA that everyone agreed to when they made their account. It should have been common sense that this would eventually be caught on by Valve and pointed out as cheating. This is the same excuse that people who used the achievement unlocker used, it doesn't effect anyone else so it's not cheating, but that's obviously wrong, and valve took action.

A lot of the people complained and give these excuses, like, it would take alot more power if they were idling inside a server, and valve wants to destroy the environment, but you shouldn't be idling to begin with, and if your that much more a dedicated player of the game than everyone else, then why do you even care about a useless hat that you can't even see while your playing? It is a FIRST PERSON shooter after all, and it will grant you no advantage over the other players, so why care?

btw, http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197973940743
I guess it's in a slot that you can't access. And I wonder if new players get this? Like players that buy the game today. Do they get it? It would suck if they got accused of being idlers in this raging idler vs non idler war inside alot of servers.

 

Have you ever heard of the map called achievement_idle? It's the exact same thing that the program does but instead causes you to waste several hundred kilowatts in video card juice over the course of a month.

The idle program in no way gave people an advantage over anyone else. It was widely available, completely free, and did nothing different than idling in a server (except for the electricity I already mentioned).

That's not cheating. Cheating is the the achievement unlocker. Cheating is being able to see cloaked spied (ironically spies wearing the halo are visible while cloaked). Moral high road? There are no morals related to this. It's an old fashioned shakedown disguised as convoluted morality.

I gained nothing from this. I lost none of my weapons. What I did lose is respect for valve.

In a way, idling has been a success though. I mean, after months and months, valve is finally considering making changes to the oh-so-ridiculous random drops system.

 

Read my third paragraph. To sum it up, why would you lose respect for valve? You shouldn't have been idling in the game anyway, hats are pointless and you should have only been playing the game, when you were actually "playing". That was the intent of the random drop system. But people like you were trying to make the game think you were ALWAYS playing so you could have an advantage over others who just played when they wanted to actually play... if you catch my meaning. Don't blame valve because your impatient. If you don't want to run up your electricity bill, then shut off your computer, you don't NEED the hats, they don't effect gameplay, and your making excuses to try and convince people that the idler was just.

 

It's "you're", not "your".

 

i got one. its funny because when i almost had all the hats people kept saying im must have idled for days.

 

I had a good screenshot of an idle server filled with halos. I wonder where I put that.

 

lol I spent about 2 days (48 hrs +) in an idleing server but I got the hat =)!

 

The idle server has nothing to do with the halo. It's given to people who didn't use Drunken_f00l's idle program.