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    Why Keep It a Secret?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cruor, Aug 20, 2015.

  1. Cruor

    Cruor Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, we started hearing rumors of a 990M. Now we know for a fact something more powerful then a 980M is coming "soon" and have rumors that we might get an actual desktop 980 GTX in a laptop.

    So my question is, why do we need to keep hearing rumors and leaks? Why would Nvidia be angry at that Chinese CEO for leaking it? Why not just tell us? I mean we are interested because we want to buy it, just let us know that it it is coming and when.

    How does it hurt them to say "yes a GPU is in the works, we are testing it now. It will be approx X% more powerful and cost Y money, and will arrive around Z time" I'm going to buy from them anyway, are they scared I won't buy a 980M If I know? if I did, then I wouldn't have money to buy their brand new thing so whats the point? Are they scared of AMD/ATI? I'm sure they both have industry spies leaking whats coming from both anyway.

    Whats the point in waiting a few weeks before to announce a release?
     
  2. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    my guess?

    2 words: ching ching.

    no, that is not some Chinese dude.
     
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  3. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    no need to make consumers aware of the next big thing, they might stop buying ur current/old crap

    no need to let the (atm non-existing) competition know what ure up to, they might come up with something similar or worse: better! god forbid!

    even with the chip itself finished u might not really know exactly what kinda tdp envelope ure allowing it to take on, same goes for the clock speeds. so during development its impossible to say how much faster the card is going to be. also, driver development always needs to catch up anyways, even after release of a new piece of hardware.

    so in the end, its best to come "outta nowhere" and be like: BAM! all your base/wallets/nuts are belong to us :cool:

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  4. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Cha ching?

    Maybe it's your boo's Chinese nickname? Unless...
     
  5. ethon21

    ethon21 Notebook Consultant

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    This is essentially it, the second point being quite important when you have competition (which generally isn't the case now).

    Additionally, people tend to generate enough interest on their own, so they don't have to worry about not building enough hype. I think they probably also enjoy when the potential performance gets exaggerated because that builds even more excitement. Certainly this could come back to haunt you if you disappoint, but it's hard to do that without any real competition.

    I'd prefer more transparency too, but I understand why I'm generally not going to see it. I'm sure some of the leaks we see are intentionally put out there to generate interest. That's likely the vendor's compromise.
     
  6. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    There's also that very small chance NVIDIA may not release a 990M, so if some manufacturer got a memo about placing pre-orders for them (soon), then they blab about it to the world and NVIDIA cancels it, now the public expects a release and NVIDIA won't deliver. Puts them in an awkward position.

    NVIDIA's lawyers must be busy.
     
  7. Cruor

    Cruor Notebook Enthusiast

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    I understand those points but like I said they gotta know AMD is already working on a 980 killer, and if I did buy a 980m then there is no way I could give them MORE money for a 990m, so at least with this customer they would be losing money on that deal. I'm not asking for exact specs but an announcement that a new product that will be "about X faster for Y price" would be nice and IMO only help them sell the card. I mean just look how many people posted on this site about a 980M in the last 2 weeks, If they knew something better would be out say October 1 I assume most would wait.

    Im just tired of buying a GPU/CPU and next month something better comes out from the same company... I'd pay more for the better product but not right after buying the older one.
     
  8. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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  9. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    yeah, that part also got my attention....?

    edit: aaah now i can finally see that pic, lol

    @Cruor: best time to buy is just when a new gen is released :) then ull get the most out of your hardware.
     
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  10. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    lol

    That said, I wish AMD made a mobile Fiji chip :/
     
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    transphasic Notebook Consultant

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    AMD has given up on the Enthusiast High-End GPU business, and this photo reflects the reply.
    Thanks for the chuckle.
     
  12. LTBonham

    LTBonham Notebook Evangelist

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    Look how much press they get out of speculation
     
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  13. hfm

    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    They keep it secret so they can have a huge reveal event with press release and someone on stage talking about it.
     
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