Why is the my 8400gt slower than my Radeon 1900xtx?

Is it because laptop graphics cards are smaller or something? My desktop can run Half-Life 2 at max settings at a steady 30-40 FPS while my 8400gt can barely do 20 with medium settings. Then again it could be Vista... Any ideas?

 

8400m GT is entry level of graphic card, even the desktop version still slower than x1900 XT.

 

Because 8400gt is a slow graphics chip. 1900xtx is easily 4 times as fast if not more.

 

Strange i play Half life 2 completely maxed out on my 8400GT and get 30 frames per second.

 

and HL2 is 5 years old..besides, any old card can run HL2 maxed out at low resolution of WXGA or WXGA+. Welcome to 2008 I guess...

 

geforce 8400 is very low end card its just like a 7400 with direct x10

 

beside 7400 doesn't support dx10

 

I know, What im saying is that the 8400 is just like the 7400 but with Direct x10

 

The Radeon X1900XTX was released to compete with the Nvidia 7900 series. Considering that top of the line cards are generally better than bottom of the line cards two gens ahead (my general rule, some exceptions, for example - a 6800GT will probably outperform an 8400GS. Seeing as a 7900GT is something like twice as good as a 6800GT and a 7900GT is about equivalent to and X1900XTX, and the 8400GT is slightly better than an 8400GS, I am not surprised at all.

Some people are under the impression that a higher number card is a better card. This is not the case even within manufacturers, as I stated earlier - 6800GT > 7200GS, 7300LE, 8400GS, and so on, this applies even more when comparing ATI to Nvidia.

The Nvidia laptop card that I would expect to perform on par with a desktop X1900XTX would be either an 8600M GT or an 8700M GT...

 

Te 8400M GT performs similarly to the 8600M GS. I even wonder if they aren't the same card...

 

Actually a 8400GT has it all over a 7400, its the 128bit business.

8600GS is thought to just be an up clocked 8400GT

 

Yeah waht I thought but since the 8400M GT seems to always come with GDDR3 while the 8600GS has DDR2, pretty equal. Mobile version of the 8500GT

 

1900xtx is faster than 7900GT, it competes with 7900GTX.

 

Read the stickies before you post. The Radeon 1900 XTX is much, much faster than the 8400 GT.

 

I play half life 2 maxed full aa and af at 1440 x 900 with 40+ fps concistantly at stock clocks.
I'm using 169.09 drivers from laptopvodeo2go.com.
The 8400m GT is slightly better than the go 7600 and oc'd it's equal to the 8600 gs.

 

I´ve one Powercolor X1900XT 512MB with a VBIOS mod to XTX on my desktop, and I can say that my 8700M GT is only a bit faster...

So one 8400M no way...

 

What a comparision ?! Radeon X1900XTX vs GeForce Go 8400M GT! Good joke .

 

Haha! You're also comparing desktop GPU vs mobile GPU and high end vs. entry level cards.

 

What about one 9800 GX2 VS Riva TNT... Humm this is a hard one

 

No, it did user who opened thread "Why is the my 8400gt slower than my Radeon 1900xtx?" . I still think he did it for joking .

 

Huh? What are you trying to say?

 

Let's not take it too far, not every one understands tech, we were all noobs once.

 

Not me,I`m still a noob now
Rofl, the 1900XTX is close to the 7800GT-7900GTX, which totally obliterate even the 8600M GT ddr3.

 

My 8400M GT maxes out HL 2 with 16xQAA and 16xAF @ 1024x768 res.

With an average of 59fps with vsync on

 

this is quite the overstatement, but yea the 8400gt is not as powerful as the x1900

 

Not even a 8700m GT doesn´t stand a chance against a 1900 xtx.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=378&card2=535

 

Yeah the 1900 xtx was a pretty damn good card, and like most have said, it still is. I have a friend that still runs a X850XT and it still kicks.

 

lol thanks for all the sarcastic input. im not being rude. i have no idea of how things are. i just figured that since i bought the 1900xtx three years ago and the best nvidia at the time was like a 6800 (i think?) i thought that 8400 would be better. guess not . anyone know any major stores that will clear dust out of your computer for you? it's a pain for mine and id rather pay someone than do it myself

 

best buy might.

 

Maybe in lala land...but in reality the 1900xtx is MORE than twice as fast as any 8700m GT. Sorry to burst your bubble but reality is not what you make believe it is.

 

thats obviously not true. sorry.

 

who in the world told you an 8400gt (low-end dx.10) would outpreform an a high level dx.9 card?

Read the stickies!!!

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the 1900xtx will indeed stomp the 8400m by a landslide.

but is NOT more than twice as fast as an 8700GT.
(will still beat it... but not by such a large margin)

Go to tom's guide, look up the video comparison and place the 1900XTX against the 8600GTS... which the 8700m can perform simlarly to when OC'd...

if you take ALL of the scores (including all the older stuff and he higher resolution stuff) you will find the 1900XTX to be about 32% faster... keep in mind thats a DESKTOP card against a mobile card and counting when the weaker card is at its weakest.

In newer and shader-intensive games where the resolution does not exceed 1280x1024, you will see a lower margin.

The x1900XTX pretty easily stomps any of the nvidia cards of that generation and even performs admirably when compared with the current generation of ATI cards... note the desktop 7800GTX doesn't even beat the 8600GTS (or 8700m) by any noticeable margin.


I have an idea... why don't we base our opinions on benchmarks and fact instead of specs that are not directly comparable?

 

Depends on which 7800GTX, the standard 430/1200 or the 7800 GTX 512MB 550/800. The 8700m GT is a good card, I have owned two in SLI, but it struggles at higher resolutions. Yes at lower res it can beat the 1900 XTX but at higher res 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 I doubt it beats it.

 

How about the 8800M GTX versus the X1900XTX and also versus the X1900GT?


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Correct... i just wanted some perspective here... comparing a laptop GPU to a top-of-the-line desktop GPU is nowhere near fair even if they are separated by a generation.

Reality sinks in and you realize that the desktop version gets more power, better cooling, and much more gusto because of it. Even so twice the performance is a load of hogwash.

 

True true KernalPanic, you should never compare a laptop GPU to a desktop GPU. But considering laptop GPU´s gets near desktop GPU´s in peformance, that tells something

Now the 8700m GT of course has more shader power than a 7800, 7900 GTX and is not as crippled as I thought at higher res. When I had 8700m GT x 2 in SLI I ran most my games at 1920x1200, Crysis even ran at 1680x1050 with a tweaked cfg at good fps and good visuality

 

Also it seems the X1950XTX is more powerful than the 8800M GTX. What do you guys think?

"In the latter half of 2006, ATI introduced the Radeon X1950 XTX. This is a graphics board using a revised R580 GPU called R580+. R580+ is the same as R580 except for support of GDDR4 memory, a new graphics DRAM technology that offers lower power consumption per clock and offers a significantly higher clock rate ceiling. X1950 XTX clocks its RAM at 1 GHz (2 GHz DDR), providing 64.0 GB/s of memory bandwidth, a 29% advantage over the X1900 XTX. The card was launched on August 23, 2006."

 

Bandwidth isn´t everything. 8800m GTX has more raw shader power than 1950XTX. Just look how a 1950XTX runs Crysis for instance. 8800m GTX is almost a 8800GT in terms of performance.

 

Were talking about the original HL2 here and not the episodes??

I run it on my 8400m GT(stock clocks) all maxed 1440 x 900 8xAA 16xAF vsync on (highest i can set everything) Never used fraps to check the framerate but it *never* gets laggy so it's probably 60fps.

I also run ep1, 2, portal, and tf2 high with alot of settings maxed at high resolutions (1280 or 1440) This is usually oc'd to 8600m gs values.

 

I doubt your 8400M GT gets 60 fps at those settings.
But granted,40-50 could be, since my 7950GTX gets constant 55-60fps at 1920x1200,max settings, HL2(not episodes).

 

people are underestimating the ATI 1900... its supposed to be one of the top of the line cards in 2007

 

Just checked it. 55-60 fps with vsync on with one or two dips to about 40.
With vsync off it was 40-100 with 70-80 average.

This was with stock clocks and in a fight with 4 white police guys, a couple of the blue ones and a big tri-pod "thing" with 3 people on my side.

Edit: sorry about the lack of technical half-life terminology

 

Hmm, then the 8400M GT is a pretty wicked card.

 

Half Life 2 is pretty damn optimized

 

^ Hear hear.

 

So does it easily beat the X1900GT? and X1900XTX ?

 

yah...thats true..

actually numbers means nothing...
there are some people who misconcepted the vga model numbering that higher number means more power....
geez..

 

dang if i knew that there was such a huge difference between the 8400gt and 8600gt i would have gotten the 8600. oh well

 

Yeah it beats both the 1900xtx and the GT. Remember it is the last gen´s high end, not this gen´s high end. Now the GPU´s uses shader processors, this is where they shine.