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    Why m860 TU have 260m MXM 2.1 while it's supposed to be 3.0 ?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by frank633, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello everyone, I was wondering, as the title states, why the geforce gtx 260m is MXM 2.1 in the clevo m860TU while in the description of the card it's supposed to be MXM 3.0... won't this be a problem if I ever want to upgrade the GPU? There won't be any MXM 2.1 card in the future...

    thank you
    frank633
     
  2. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    The M860TU never had an MXM 3.0 socket. Show me where you saw this information, frank 633.
     
  3. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    no not on a m860TU, but I read on the internet that the card itself was MXM 3 can it be right? I was looking on notebookcheck a list of the cards, when I clicked on gtx260M it showed it was MXM 3
     
  4. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    The GTX 260M is available in MXM 2.1 and 3.0. The M860TU uses the 2.1 version.
     
  5. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    I see... but I still wonder why, is it for power management? Because in the future, if I ever want to upgrade the GPU on the m860TU, won't it be a problem to find a MXM 2.1 card? Cause in my point of view, MXM 3 seems more futureproof... isn't it?
     
  6. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Its the end of the road im afraid for Mxm 2.1 so the best you may ever be able to get in that rig would be a 280mGTX and im not sure thats justifiable upgrade over what you currently have .
     
  7. Soviet Sunrise

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    MXM 3.0 wasn't released at the time of the M860TU's release. The GTX 260M is the last card that will be released in MXM 2.1 for the M860TU, so any possibility for upgrading to a faster card is null, unless you want to step up to the GTX 280M.

    Clevo did not develop a revised motherboard with an MXM 3.0 socket purely for business reasons. The M860TU is a short lived chassis and Clevo wants to focus more on it's successor, the W860CU.
     
  8. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    It s*cks for me then :p Since I need a laptop now... anyway, I'll still get it I think, it should last me 2 years I guess with that card...
     
  9. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    If you need a laptop now, just get the M860TU. Just because it is at it's EOL doesn't mean it is a sucky computer. It is still the fastest 15 inch laptop on the market.

    Do you plan to use your GPU for CAD or PS or other pro apps?
     
  10. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    If the upgraded W860CU is only a few months away, I would wait for that since it has a much better hardware design inside, better cooling, more upgrade potential and potentially better performance. Not to mention the possibility of CPU overclocking.

    When I first planned to purchase the NP8660 I decided to hold of for a few months after hearing about the NP8662 upgrade and I got a better GPU and a Quad.
     
  11. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    I need it now... I started CEGEP(college) adn I don't wanna wait any more... and yeah I migth do a bit of PS but it really is as an amateur i s*ck at it... really^^ Also, the W860CU will probably be more expansive right...?
     
  12. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Then you don't "need" the GTX 260M or it's succeeding architecture. Just get the base model M860TU. The prices are very affordable right now.
     
  13. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    I don't use professionnal software much, but i wanna game though ;) I wouldn't be looking at that model if I were not ^^ that's why I was looking for upgradability, but anyway i know gtx260m is a very good card, i was just wondering for further upgrade. And as I said, the W860CU will probably be much more exapansive than the m860 I'd get even with the 260m. Anyway, thanks for answering.

    frank633
     
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    Isn't there always the possibility of a modified or higher clocked GTX 280m to be used for MXM 2.1? I have never had a notebook with an upgradable GPU though, so I really don't know how it works. Obviously in the desktop world there's always modified and factory overclocked versions of cards.

    Either way if you get the notebook PC now, it's still quite powerful and will last you a couple years even if you don't update anything.

    Although a lot of specs I've read state that the NP8662 or M860TU have MXM 3. I thought that was the case when I bought mine, but seems it's apparently 2.1. I dunno.

    I'm just afraid that the W860CU along with any of the notebooks with the newer tech are gonna need some time to iron out the initial bugs or drawbacks, not to mention fetching a much higher price initially. So I guess it amounts to getting a developed platform with "aged" tech but top of the list for performance in a 15" notebook now or waiting a few more months for the newer techs at a higher pricepoint with unknown issues.
     
  15. @nthony

    @nthony Notebook Evangelist

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    That, and the other thing I tell myself to sleep at night is that the W860CU as a successor will be greater than the M860TU in all things including price. Even if it were released tomorrow, I doubt I would buy it over the M860TU for the same reason I didn't buy the M570 over the M860TU (minus the size).
     
  16. Saisei

    Saisei Notebook Deity

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    franky u can still play your css on the 2.1 mXm card.3.0 isnt supported on that model,you have to stick with 2.1 for now.
     
  17. Amnesiac

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    Is it really necessary posting this in every topic? It's starting to get quite annoying.
     
  18. sean473

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    He always been like that... iGrims smaller brother :)
     
  19. __-_-_-__

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    anyway clevo does not respect the electromechanical specifications of the mxm standard. saying that it's 2.1 or 3.0 is misleading