Will 2009 games work on Inspiron 1510 notebook???

I dont know anything about games and what is required to play, but my brother wants to buy a $2000 pc just to play a couple games, his friend is influencing him and I am trying to tell him that games should work on his 1510, what should he do?? will they play on his laptop? Shouldnt games be meant for PS3 or XBOX. Geez. Makes no sense why developers would make a game that cant play on laptops.

Thanks for all replies.

 

HUH? pc>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>XBOX.PERIOD. anywya u can get a bloatware pc from best buy with a 9800 in it for under a grand. Which would be about 3 times more powerful than a ps3.

 

Very biased. Why the hell does it always have to be Console vs PC when you can have both.


@ megamontana

The laptop doesn't have to be a Dell Inspiron 1510. And mind you, those laptops are configurable and NOT all 1510s come with a good graphics processor (which is essential for games). I have two friends with a Dell XPS 1530. One has a Geforce 8600M GT and the other one has a Geforce 8400M GS. He complains he has the same laptop but has bad gaming performance. The different graphics processor explains why.

I suggest your brother to look for any laptop that has either a Geforce 9600M, 9650M, 9700M GS or GT. Any one of these graphics processors will do perfect for gaming on the go without compromising battery life. I'm particularly happy about the 9700M GT since they have a complimentary Geforce 9100M to use when not gaming which increases battery life considerably so he can have a longer productivity time on the go.

Most of these laptops with these graphics card can go for less than $1500. In fact, in ExcaliberPC.com, they've got an ASUS N80nv which is 14" with a the latest Core 2 Duo processor (P8600, 2.4 Ghz, Penryn) and a Geforce 9650M GT for only $1100 excluding shipping. They also have the same model for $950 but it comes with an older 2.0 Ghz Core 2 Duo instead. It'd be best if your brother could get something with a Geforce 9700M GT (I assume all laptops with a GF 9700M GT come with an on-board GF 9100M as I've seen so far) with a 9-cell battery. The gaming experience (graphically...) on these laptops should be comparable to the Xbox 360/PS3. I'm assuming he's getting the laptop for purposes with gaming as an added bonus, if otherwise, he should just opt for those 8+ lbs behemoths with Geforce 9800M graphics processors. They've got a measly 1 hour battery life (probably even less) and they're only good when there's a power outlet around. It's only for pure gaming or number crunching (AutoCAD, etc).

You can just have him order an Xbox 360 on the side. It's only $199 anyway and chances are many of the games you want are on the Xbox 360 which is a good deal.

 

Mine is 7lbs and 2.5 hours on the battery. Just saying.

 

exactly you can get a 9800m "behemont" for 1.2 k and around 7 pounds.
SymphonyX do your research first and your the biased one here. and soon a 38xx and 48xx for 1350 and it wont be around as big and heavy as your think
(not directed to u kevinjack)
here are a just a few examples( all 7 pounds and/or under) most under 1.5k there's more if the limit is 2 grand
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8660-built-clevo-m860tu-p-2411.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152087
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220483
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9050279&type=product&id=1218012519873
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GT725-074...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1231222353&sr=8-2

all of them should get at least 2 hours of battery.
to op any new graphics card out right know would be stronger then the ps3 and xbox. for 800 you can get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152073
and i think the card is stronger then the console currently out.

 

@ johnapimp

I should have done some proofreading before pressing the "submit" button. It was a typo. I meant 7+ lbs.

Regarding the 1 hour thing, I meant SLI laptops. And do you really expect to get 2 hours of battery life on a 6-cell battery on a laptop with a high-end GPU? I've got a friend who has an Alienware M15x (don't know what CPU it has but I know it has a GF 9800M GTX) and he barely reaches 2 hours before his battery wants to call it quits. He undervolted the CPU, lowered screen brightness to 30%, did everything else to reduce power consumption except turning off Wifi. Even if it did reach 2 hours, it's measly compared to the 4-5+ hours smaller and lighter laptops with 9-cell batteries are getting.

Sheesh, so much people here feeling offended because I called their beloved big laptops useless. Next time, be indifferent. I'm posting a real con of your laptops. Most non-workstation laptops heavier than 5 lbs for most people is a hassle and have less battery life. I'm taking my friend's situation as an example. He can't get any work done when away from the outlet because his M15x drains the battery so fast. If the intention for getting a laptop isn't purely gaming, it's better for him to get something lighter.

Lastly, I'm not biased. Naticus was biased. Go read again what he wrote. I'm taking into account what the first poster may expect from his current choice (couldn't find a Inspiron 1510 so I checked out a Vostro 1510 instead). It's 5 lbs and lasts nearly 3 1/2 hours on a 6-cell battery (Penryn C2D + GF 8600M GT graphics, and without any tweaking or tinkering to reduce power consumption). The next line of laptops with power-hungry GPUs are considerably heavier, and obviously, have crap battery life.

BTW, I hardly consider advice from people who can't even spell. Hope you don't take me seriously. Hahahaha!


@ megamontana

Seems like you've got a plethora of cheap, pure gaming laptops. If productivity and weight is totally not an issue for your brother (this means you'll only play with the machine), choose any one of those jonhapimp mentioned. I gotta advice against the 15" MSI though. I've got a couple of pals here with an MSI GX600 and the build quality doesn't seem so good. It's flimsy and plastic-like. I don't know about the newer MSI G-series laptops. I suggest you go for the Sager instead. From my experience with handling Sagers before, they're rock solid.

 

@megamontana

Its not the developer fault, conventional notebook you see, is not equip with a GPU that's powerful enough. Most of the time people will require to sacrifice something for another in term of how nice the game look or even run.

Your brother is not alone.

What you can do is to convince him to get a cheaper one like what jonhapimp linked. He couldn't go wrong with either of the 9800 series cards, they're pretty powerful in today's notebook standard and could play future games with less sacrificing in detail although this would still happen but its slower.

Or you can just slap him in the face.

 

How was i biased when i am stating facts? Also the OP asked " shouldn't games be left for xbox and ps3"? So I simply answered his question.

 

Wow thanks guys but I think my question was confusing.

My Brother owns a Inspiron 1520, which he has had for about 1 year.

Now he wants to get a $1500 - $1700 Dell PC for gaming...(he just started to play games in the last year)

He claims that newer games or ones that come out this year wont be able to play on his Inspiron 1520.

So my question is basically, can they play on his laptop? or will they play but there will be some minor differences in terms of how smooth it plays or graphics wise.

My brother has a disability and is very naive, and easily influenced by someone without doing any independent research.

I'm not exactly sure what kind of graphics card is on this laptop or wether it can be upgraded, if i remember correctly it was a pretty decent one, a geforce something...wasnt the highest number but it was up there.


As for pc over xbox? I wasnt debating that, obviously there is a huge difference, I just dont think games are meant for computers....who the hell is buying games for computers besides these internet geeks for first person shooters thats it.

 

WOW, a lot of people play games on there computers, all competitive online play is done that way. Anyway i wont get into a debate about that...but tell your brother to buy a sager/clevo instead of the dhell, he will get more for his money and spend less. the m860 is a good place to start.

 

There is a way to check the specs of the computer on the computer itself. If not, you can use GPU-Z or some other type of program if you don't know how to do it by Windows(assuming you have Windows of some kind).

A clear list of the computer's specs and the games your brother wants to play would be more helpful as the Inspiron 1520 comes with many different configurations.

Well we're not here to start a debate on that. It's your opinion as much as anyone else's which is better. Both have pros & cons and many types of games exist, and not all of them are best played on either platform.

I find playing anything that requires a mouse of a keyboard better for a computer. RTS games or things like The Sims are not very well playable on other platforms than the PC IMO. And as you stated, shooter games are another example.

 

2-2.5 hours on battery applies for normal use and not gaming

 

this just seems strange, come to a forum about laptops, specifically the gaming section


ask people to help and then in turn make fun of a lot of people on here with some general stupid statement, nice



and no one can help completely without listed specs

 

This is more like a family problem rather than the laptop's fault lol.

I don't remember anything of Dell that's capable of handling today's game in good detail in that price range. I mean other than the M1730, the rest is using mid-range GPU (Correct me if I'm wrong).

My advice is to seek expert's help. Your brother might end up getting an expensive notebook that does not justify the gaming capabilities (It might be equipped with a nice CPU, more RAM or whatever but they don't impact game as much as GPU does).

As mentioned, try your best to get your hand on the specifications of the notebook that he's going to buy.

 

If you're talking about the economical choice, get a $200 Xbox 360, which can handle all your current games. Much better deal than a $1000+ computer for gaming, unless your brother is a committed computer gamer who hates console gaming...

 

We do have family problems

He owns a laptop and wants to buy a non laptop for gaming purposes. And he wants one with a specific graphics card and to do that he has to pay 1800 or so.

IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.....TO OWN TWO COMPUTERS IN YOUR BEDROOM.

I apologize to everyone I offended about gaming on a PC or laptop, it wasnt intentional, I came to this forum because I thought you guys would know more about a computers ability to handle games. Thats all.

 

Well if he really IS that committed to PC gaming, tell him to get a desktop computer(unless he plans on moving around a lot) since he'll get more power and a better performance for cheaper.

Like I said, ask him what games he wants to play and if possible, try and find the specs of his current laptop.

 

Gaming only eh? Tell him to get an Xbox 360, PS3 or Wii, whatever games he fancies. On the side note, only the Xbox 360 and PS3 offer HD (high definition) capabilities.

Everyone misunderstood your very first post. You should have immediately stated that he has a laptop and wanted a PC, NOT a laptop, for gaming purposes.

He can save a lot more cash building his own PC and many of us here at NBR are willing to help you with picking the parts. You can just go to your preferred computer store and ask them for the parts we recommend and they'll assemble it for you. Note: For a $1500, you can have a desktop that's way more powerful than any of the most expensive and powerful laptops available.

Still, the only games on the PC he'd probably like are FPS, strategy games and MMORPGs (and most MMORPGs have very light requirements). Make sure his mind is made up before cashing out that much. A $200 Xbox 360 has many of the PC's most popular FPS and strategy games and handling via the controller isn't that bad. You won't have to worry about the graphics and games run very smooth. He'll never have to worry about settings and all that. Plus, the Xbox Live has matured quite a bit now (well, NOT the people that play on it). And he's disabled, right? He's honestly better off with a controller. No offense.

And before the 'console VS PC graphics' crap erupts again, the Xbox 360 does have nice graphics. Not as nice as very fast PC can pull off, but still very pretty nonetheless -- just make sure you've got an HDTV. You'd have to be a picky b@stard to say that it's ugly, either that or you've got one hell of an ego.

 

Lol now I think I've reading disability. So he's planning to get a desktop? Pardon me for my carelessness. As suggested by SymphonyX, if you could direct him towards console, it will be cheaper IMO.

 

yeah, i mean.

if you just want a machine that plays games, the xbox 360 is pretty ridiculously economical.

let me put it this way.

the quality of a given game on the xbox 360 is pretty much guaranteed to be lower than the quality of that same game on the pc, given a sufficiently powerful pc. however, the pc is much more difficult to maintain, is much more expensive (almost an order of magnitude - almost 10x the expense in your case).

and that should pretty much shut the door on this issue. the experience of a gaming pc is not 10x better than the experience of an xbox 360. if anything, they deliver an equal amount of fun, with the xbox delivering less frustration. given that the person in question has a mental disability, the xbox 360 is even more of an attractive choice compared to the pc. everything is a lot more clean cut on the 360, whereas on the pc, you have to deal with the software to get everything working. installing drivers, updating the system, keeping it clean, keeping the hard drives clean... its a lot when you think about it.

lastly, you are partially wrong about computer games. a lot of people play casual computer games. a LOT. but you are right that only techy nerdy people play serious computer games that require high end graphics cards. and thats just the way it is. the expense is sufficiently high that only people who are really in it can be in it.

also, the set price and game catalog on the 360 make it much more clear exactly what you are buying. with the pc, its often difficult for the consumer to see what they are really getting. any game released for the 360 will run great on the 360. with a pc, its easy to get scammed and misled because most people just don't know what anything in the computer really means.

 

First off, PC's offer much more 'HD capabilities' than the 360/PS3. I don't know what was meant by that statement.

And if you want to have a gaming PC, you can find one for well under 1800$ that has the capabilities of playing the newest games at very high settings. $1000 should be plenty.

 

A console would only be the more economical choice assuming you had the TV(preferably an HDTV) to go with it. Of course, who doesn't have a TV right? lol Well I know some people who don't lol

Anyways, it's purely for gaming, I'd also suggest getting a console(Xbox, PS3, Wii etc). It's a more economical choice and unless he's that much into games which are better/exclusive for PC, I don't really see the need if he doesn't plan on doing anything else with the machine.

I mean, consoles ARE basically gaming-only computers >.>

 

That might be true but in this case, I'm with the console because as far as I'm concern, megamontana is trying to stop his brother from spending a fortune on maybe just an ego of his. Instead, he/she could take a different approach by "supporting" his brother to get a console so that he spend less and still able to be happy. Its a win-win situation IMO.

 

I agree, a console also seems to be the correct choice in this case. I was just giving my input on a couple statements that I thought were off

I would suggest a PC if he had not already had one (because then the cost of buying a gaming laptop over the 1510 would be comparable to that of a console)