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    Will DX9 be obsol337 ???

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by WalkerTexasRanger, Sep 17, 2007.

  1. WalkerTexasRanger

    WalkerTexasRanger Newbie

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    hi guys, just joined the forum, and i've been probing this question all over the internet, you chums seem to know quite a bit. Im gettin a Sager soon, and need to know if i should hold off for the go8800 nvidia card with the direct x10 (cause the 8700 gt jsut doesn't do it for me) or if i should just giver now with the 7950 gtx, which obvs pwns. I just wanna know how long it will take for direct x 9 cards to be obsolete or even how long for the 8800 to come out. Thanks
     
  2. fifafreak18

    fifafreak18 Notebook Evangelist

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    I would wait for the 8800 (pending release), although DX9 is not obsolete, the 8800M is suppose to be about as powerful as the 7950GTX and supports DX10. Among casual gamers, i don't think DX9 will be gone for another year..year and a half maybe.
     
  3. Gotei 13

    Gotei 13 Notebook Evangelist

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    I say 2 years max because manufacturer will lost profit if they have to change all the GPU from DX9 to DX10 straight away
     
  4. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    youll see DX9 around for a long time more as you cant just install DX10 on any computer.
     
  5. WalkerTexasRanger

    WalkerTexasRanger Newbie

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    alright thanks guys, thats good news cause i didn't wanna wait for the 8800 anyways ( im impatient and am missing my head shots )
     
  6. nbaumann

    nbaumann Notebook Deity

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    If you look at the Steam surveys, only 5% of people have dx10 capable computers. Dx9 will be around for a LONG time to come I can guarantee that.
     
  7. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    or your money back, right? lol
     
  8. Tobi1982

    Tobi1982 Notebook Consultant

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    I'd say it depends on what you're playing. If you always want to play newest games, the 8800 would be your first choice, as you could profit from all the DX10 eyecandy.
    But if you're playing only 1-2yrs old games, the 7950GTX will definitly do it for you. It is optimized fpr DX9 performance and plays recent games perfectly.

    Another point is how long you want to keep the notebook If you want to keep it much longer than let's say 2 years, it would also be wise to take the 8800, as it is equipped for the future rather than the 7950GTX.

    Greets
     
  9. HavoK

    HavoK Registered User

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    I don't think that DX10 is mainstream enough to make that assessment. After all, even if he is looking towards the future, in 2 years the 8600MGT will be completely obsolete. I'd get the 7950GTX, it's a killer in the latest games which are, by and large, DX9 and it will perform faster then the 8600GT in the bulk of games. Don't buy for the future, buy for the time in which you want your laptop to be the best it can possibly be. If you can afford a 7950GTX, get one, the DX10 capability of the 8600GT seems to be a point used often but its pretty much null given the infancy and indeed rarity of DX10.

    I think the 'High end DX9' vs 'Mid Range DX10' is an argument reserved for maybe 9-12 months time, NOT at this current moment in time.
     
  10. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    7950GTX hands down best choice for three reasons:

    (1) It is *the* best notebook GPU on the market.
    (2) 8800m is still a pipedream. No confirmation of it ever existing, as the 8700m may actually be the 8800m.
    (3) DirectX 10 is just an infant. Too few PC's with Vista yet, which is required for DX10. Large majority of PC's are DX9 and until everyone buys new PC's, which will take 2-3 years, DX9 will still be the standard, with DX10 for uber PC's.
     
  11. Ice-Tea

    Ice-Tea MXM Guru NBR Reviewer

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    Game designer to share holders: "Hi, we plan to make our next game DX10 only"
    Share holders: "Doesn't that mean you can only sell that game to people with VISTA and DX10 cards?"
    Designer: "Uhm, yeah"
    Share holders: " Headshot!"
     
  12. Tobi1982

    Tobi1982 Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, it's alo a point that no one has the confirmation a 8800 Gt will ever exist. The probability is high, but it's not sure I think.

    @HavoK
    I was talking about a hypothetical 8800 GPU, not a 8600, which is of course far inferior to the 7950GTX.
     
  13. d3vilsadvocate

    d3vilsadvocate Notebook Enthusiast

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    8800 desktop cards have been on the market for almost a year now, I wonder what they are waiting for on the laptop market.
    I think they must have some serious heat issues or other problems. NVIDIAs driver support for mobile gpus is next to non existent anyway, so maybe you should get a desktop system for that money with a nice 24 inch screen. that would allow you to update your GPU at any time you wish.

    Geforce 9 cards will soon be on the market as well by the way, so IMO it's not really worth waiting for something which might be "obsolete" within a few weeks. I'd go for the 7950 I think, dx10 is overrated anyway, and I just HATE vista

    my 2 cents
     
  14. nbaumann

    nbaumann Notebook Deity

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    dx10 is not overrated, it's just new, it takes time for those things to click.
     
  15. eessie

    eessie Notebook Geek

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    ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
     
  16. planet

    planet Notebook Evangelist

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    Well...Halo 2, Halo 3, Alan Wake just to name a few are Vista/Dx10 exclusives!
     
  17. Apollo13

    Apollo13 100% 16:10 Screens

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    ^Not true. Halo 2 is a Vista exclusive, but does not even take advantage of DX10, let alone requiring it. Also note that this is a Microsoft product - non-Microsoft companies wouldn't make a Vista-only game for a long time yet.
     
  18. WalkerTexasRanger

    WalkerTexasRanger Newbie

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    lol love the headshot Ice-Tea. Ya its settled, i got the Sager np5790, and it looks dope, and for 2300 bucks, i think i pimped it out pretty well. I heard a rumor that sager doesn't sodder their graphics cards to their mother boards. So would that mean its upgradeable or am i just a bug dumb idiot
     
  19. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

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    Nope, it's MXM which means it's got an MXM slot, and being MXM IV it can theoretically accept ANY MXM card you want to put in it, which is why I ordered my Sager 5790 with an 8700GT/ 1920x1200 yet im a hardcore gamer only looking for the best graphics AND performance.

    I got the 8700GT because it saved me $100, which I'm going to put towards a 9700GT, which is supposably 4x faster than the 8700GT, but that's an extremely far fetched claim, but It'll still be faster than the 7950GTX, that's for shure.
     
  20. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hmm the 8700GT is pretty crippled if you play at 1920x1200 compared to a 7950GTX :)
     
  21. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    haha halo 2 mayb vista exclusive, but i made it work for xp :) and im sure all of those other games could as well.
     
  22. HTWingNut

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    Halo 2 is a DirectX 9 game that Microsoft released for DX10 only. I can't believe that MS did a business case on this, and to think Halo 2 would attract enough people to upgrade to Vista vs. making more money selling tons of extra copies of Halo 2 for the huge DX9 user base. Sounds like a desperate measure from a monopolistic company. Makes no sense to me.
     
  23. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    and thats what there best at.....making no sense..