Will games soon be requiring dx10 cards?

Hello guys! I just registered and wanted to ask the question thats been causing me frustration for the past few days. Will games soon be requiring dx10 gpus? Also, since there are currently no graphics cards compatable with dx10 will all our current gaming notebooks be renedered powerless when attempting to play next-gen games? Thanks in advance for response. Any info is much appreciated!

P.S. Im also worried because I planned on ordering a XPS M1710 to hold me off for quite some time.

 

There's no graphics card for DirectX 10 period right now. DirectX 10 will only come with Vista, and that's being released in ~Q1 2007. DX10 won't take effect until then at the earliest. I don't know when it will be required, impossible to say now.

 

I agree with Chaz on this one.

The thing is, just like the 32bit-64bit conversion. Most companies will not shoot themselves in the foot by requiring DX10 to play. Most games will have better graphics with DX10, but will not be proprietary to it.

Just my $.02

 

USAF is right on! a surefire way to limit your market is requiring people to buy a $200+(and most probable $350+) card just to play your game. My guess is that they will have DX10 enabled games that is an added bonus, much like HL2's Scalability, you can play with DX9 graphics or you can crank it up to DX10 type of graphics if your card supports it, however they probably won't even roll out games with it until the market has been flooded with DX10 capable cards........GeForce 12900 GTX PLATINUM UBER EDITION here we come


my $.02


This pot is growing

-Dunc

 

But do you think in the next 4 years there will be games that require directx 10 and do not run with directx 9?

 

Well if you say next 4 years I agree. Direct X10 will be fully supported at Q2 2007 I think... so still a long time.

Charlie-Peru

 

yes there will

 

I understand why you would want to hold off for directx 10, I do myself but w8ing for a directx 10 gfx is pointless.

I have thought about it myself but I dont think I will be able to hold on that long, although im gonna try.

With a directx 9 card you wont be able to get the full visual effects from vista, which is quite crap really because when you spent like 2k on a laptop for 4 months later it not run the latest operating system perfectly you will feel sick.

 

Well im a little confused actually because im now reading that you can get the full experience with a dx9 card with sm 2.0, so im a little lost now as I have always read that directx 10 will be required.

Can somebody clear this up for me?

Thanks

 

You can probably expect some games next year that use some of the DX10 features, but it won't be compulsary. It will just add a small bonus in the eye candy department.

 

Vista does not need a DirectX 10 video card. That's only needed, as of right now, for gaming.

A DirextX 9.0 video card with SM 2.0 will run Vista perfectly.

 

thanks for clearing that up chaz

 

Many people still run DriectX 9 games with DirectX 8 cards so I don't think it will make directX 9 cards obsolete for a very long time.

All you miss will be some added features/effects of DirectX10... And game makers are not going to make it compulsory to have DirectX 10 card otherwise they won't have many buying their software.

 

even if a game uses DX10, u can still use older DX Cards but wont get any new DX10 effects

 

DirectX 10 will not be backwards compatible with any previous versions of DirectX, actually:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/DirectX-10-and-so-it-ends-7762.shtml

Some games will come out that support both DirectX 9 and 10; Crysis is one.

Chaz

 

I am thinking just how new technology becomes considered "The Norm" and how long it takes to get there.
I just Pre-ordered a Sager 5760 and expect to use it for 3-4yrs.
(Gonna milk it for as much as I can lol)

I am also a gamer 1st.
Like many has stated, I do not think gaming Companies will make it mandatory to have DirectX 10 in the next 2-3 yrs.
I can see games like Crysis that will support BOTH DirectX 9 & 10 for the next couple of years.

But I am hoping that by the time Directx 10 is mandatory, its time for me to either replace my laptop or upgrade my desktop

Have to realize that the Gaming Companies knows that the Average consumer just cannot afford upgrading their systems often.
I am sure they target a wide demographics for their products.

 

does this mean that this m170 that i just got 3 month ago will be crap after 3 years?

 

Everything becomes outdated at some point in time; the XPS is no exception, although your laptop will stay up-to-date longer than others because it has higher-end components.

 

I am guessing that from how technology has been coming out, computers will become obsolete faster than ever. Just think, computers with no spinning hard drives. Pretty soon every laptop will have the new hard drives which will be the standard, but by then the Intel Quatro (the four core processor) will be out ;-).

 

is there any dx10 mobile gpu's planned?

 

More than likely... although not for quite a few months yet. ATI and nVidia's announcements regarding the next gen GPUs suggest they're not going to be DX10 capable, so we may not see DX10 hardware until Q1-Q2 2007.

Getting back to the earlier point of this thread, I feel it's necessary to point out something. If we don't have DX10 based hardware, the games developers probably don't either, and software emulation doesn't cut it... especially is the API is still under development. Considering the long development cycles for recent titles, I'd say we're looking at anything up to 18 months before we even start seeing games that will utilise DX10.

 

What I'm wondering is how games like Crysis are being programmed right now. nVidia and ATI have both confirmed that even their next generation of cards will not be fully DX10 capable, as TedJ pointed out. And as I recall, at E3, the Crysis demo was being played either on the Xbox 360 or an XPS M1710 (I can't recall which). Either way, these were not DX10 systems (despite some people who say that the X360 has a DX10 GPU). I just don't see it happening any time soon, which is why I decided to go ahead and buy now. I couldn't afford to wait around for another year to year and a half for DX10, only then for them to announce something else. So I bought now. People also need to understand that DX10 and 64-bit are not the only hardware upgrades that come along with Vista. You've got SSDs, the Sideshow feature for notebooks, unified CPU and GPU usage, etc. There's a lot changing right now, and if you want to wait for all of it, you're going to be waiting a long time.