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    Will the 256MB ATI mobility Radeon HD2600 play these games?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by jpb82, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. jpb82

    jpb82 Notebook Geek

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    Hi

    Below are the basic specifications of the notebook
    im very interested in buying.

    CPU: Intel centrino core 2 Duo T7250 (2.0Ghz)
    RAM: 2048MB DDR2 RAM
    HDD: 200GB Hard Drive
    GPU: 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD2600
    Display: 17" TFT Trubright WXGA Display (1440x900)
    OS: Windows vista home premium

    Im not a hard core pc gamer and am not interested
    in playing games at high resolutions, however i would like
    the games to look reasonably good and play smoothly
    so could anyone possibly please tell me will the
    256MB ATI mobility Radeon HD2600 play the following games:

    Aliens vs Predator
    Aliens vs Predator 2
    BF:2142
    Doom 3
    Farcry
    Halo
    Halo 2
    Oblivian + Expansions
    Resident Evil Series
    Star Wars: Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2
    Star Wars: Jedi Knight 2 Jedi Outcast
    Star wars: Jedi Knight 2 Jedi Academy
    Star Wars: KOTOR
    Star Wars: KOTOR 2
    Star Wars: Empire at War
    Worms 2
    Worms Armageddon
    Worms Forts under siege
    Worms World Party
    Worms 3D
    Worms 4: Mayhem

    I would appreciate any help you could give me

    Thankyou
     
  2. airholland

    airholland Notebook Geek

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    Well, you should be quitte sure that you can play these games. the only one I am not sure about is HALO2 (never played it).
     
  3. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I will assume a 1280x800 resolution
    AVP -max
    AP2- max
    BF2142 old game, should work perfectly
    Farcry med/high
    Halo - high
    Halo 2- beats me man,never tried it
    Oblivion - med/high
    Resident evil med/high if not high
    Star wars - you should have no problem with any of them
    Worms (armageddon,2etc) - lol. max
    Your system if mid/performance so you should be able to play any of the older games just fine(2006 and older) . Newer ones...med settings usually,or low/med.
     
  4. Vlad_I

    Vlad_I Notebook Evangelist

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    Having owned a laptop with a Radeon Mobility X1600 256MB DDR3, i can say that any of those games mentioned above you will be able to play at maximum settings at your native resolution without any problems. HD2600 is more powerful than the X1600 and i was able to run all of those games on the X1600 at max settings at 1680xwhatever resolution. Except for BF2142.
     
  5. sly

    sly m1530 owner!!!

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    u will be easily be able to play all those games
     
  6. jpb82

    jpb82 Notebook Geek

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    Thanks for all your help so far guys.
    Looking at the specs again there's something
    i forgot to mention and that is apparantly
    the ATI mobility Radeon HD2600
    has 256MB Dedicated graphics + (1023mb Hypermemory)
    as a graphic card novice could you tell me what this means
    and weather or not this effects how the games i mentioned will run?
     
  7. -Recoil-

    -Recoil- Notebook Consultant

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    Basically, the graphics card has 256mb graphics memory in-built to the card, and it is capable of using around 768mb of your RAM for more memory.
     
  8. jpb82

    jpb82 Notebook Geek

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    I see, so having 256MB of built in memory
    and 1023MB of Hypermemory is a good thing?
     
  9. Vlad_I

    Vlad_I Notebook Evangelist

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    It is a good thing. HOWEVER!!! Your RAM is DDR2, if your VRAM is DDR3, then the clock speeds of the two memories do no match. This means that the performance will be directly affected. If your VRAM is DDR2 just like your RAM, then there will be no noticable performance difference. The GPU will resort to using its HyperMemory when needed taking a chunk out of the systems RAM. This, in certain machines, gives you little advantage because the GPU might not even know how to use the hypermemory. Im not exactly sure if your HD2600 will properly address the huge amount of HyperMemory. Regardless, it is always a good thing to have more VRAM, dedicated or not.
     
  10. jpb82

    jpb82 Notebook Geek

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    Do you know if the VRAM on the 256MB HD2600
    is DDR2 OR DDR3?
     
  11. Vlad_I

    Vlad_I Notebook Evangelist

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    This depends on the manufacturer. Some will put DDR2 in your machine and some will make DDR3 available to you. For instance, my GF 8600m GT comes in both configurations. ASUS places DDR3 whereas CERTAIN OTHER (lets not point fingers) cut you short with DDR2. The performance difference is approximately 1000 3DMARK 06 points. Thats a lot. :)
    Make sure to purchase a laptop with DDR3.
     
  12. Crimsonman

    Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:

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    The 3Dmark score is more like 600-700 points, not 1000.
     
  13. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    Halo 2 you should be fine.

    I think an IGP can run it also.

    I played it, nothing graphically at all to it. Sadly.
     
  14. Vlad_I

    Vlad_I Notebook Evangelist

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    Ive seen a post on the NBR Asus forum in which the author claimes to have observed a 1000 point difference between DDR2 and DDR3. Perhaps the info is somewhat on par with ****aky mushrooms.
     
  15. justanormalguy

    justanormalguy Notebook Consultant

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    That's one of the most outrageous and misinformed statements I've ever seen.

    DDR2 and DDR3 offer different performance, but if your GPU has DDR 2, and your system RAM is DDR 2 won't make a difference. The limiting factor is the bus that the GPU can talk to the system RAM. It is not only significantly slower (in terms of clock speed) but also it has to share the same bus with the CPU.
     
  16. Vlad_I

    Vlad_I Notebook Evangelist

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    So your saying that having DDR2 RAM for HyperMemory/TurboCache and dedicated DDR3 VRAM is not a problem lol?
     
  17. Crimsonman

    Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:

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    Yeah... they OCed those cards. Read the fine print.

    Avg DDR2 - 3100
    Avg GDDR3 - 3600-3800
     
  18. -Recoil-

    -Recoil- Notebook Consultant

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    If you are unsure of whether your graphics card is DDR2 or DDR3, then download GPU-Z from this link.

    It will tell you various things about your graphics card, including whether it is DDR2 or DDR3 etc.
     
  19. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    No it isn't because:

    A) The HD2600 won't be able to use all 256mb of RAM while maintaining a playable FPS.
    B) Virtual memory is so far away from the video card that memory latency will be far less than that of onboard GDDR2 RAM in the first place, so basically if your going over all your dedicated video RAM you should just turn down the settings (very rare).
     
  20. TheGreatGrapeApe

    TheGreatGrapeApe Notebook Evangelist

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    Main reason for Hypememory is to avoid texture swaps and such, and to make available the textures from the system memory-Hypermemory chunk instead of swapping them and uncompressing/recompressing them from the HDD.

    If like me you have ample memory (anything under 1GB system memory is more of an issue), then the system dynamically using some Hypermemory is a good thing, and always a good thing, since like TurboCache it is biased towards system performance, so if it need it more in the host that's where it goes, but if it has it to spare then it'll use it for extended VRAM whcih uses a portion of the PCIe lanes to act as a 64bit memory channel through the chipset bypassing the CPU.

    It's definitely better than the VPU going through your CPU to your HDD for resources constantly swapping out.

    It still won't act like having 1GB of VRAM but it will act better than if it only had 256MB of VRAM alone.
     
  21. JDELUNA

    JDELUNA Notebook Deity

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    I had a Radeon 9000 64MB AGP card on my Athlon XP 3000+ computer and I played AVP2 fine. I know the HD2600 will have no problem with it. I hope this helps. God Bless :)
     
  22. jpb82

    jpb82 Notebook Geek

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    Im very happy that this card will play all of my current pc games
    but how well will the 256MB ATI mobility Radeon HD2600
    handle future games like Far Cry 2?
     
  23. hwaforumtk

    hwaforumtk Notebook Guru

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    Far Cry 2 will likely struggle. At the most expect a similar experience to your card's performance in Crysis.
     
  24. Vlad_I

    Vlad_I Notebook Evangelist

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    I am able to do Crysis at medium setting at 1280xwhatever widescreen with DX10 enabled and the framerates are decent (GeForce 8600m GT). As far as im concerned, the HD2600 is somewhat similar in performance to the 8600m GT. Or at least its claimed to be. Look at some benchmarks on-line. Im sure there is a chart somewhere out there showing different framerates for different GPUs.
     
  25. jacklazara

    jacklazara Notebook Enthusiast

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    think you could play all list on your laptop
     
  26. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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