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    Will the Sager laptop 780m $350 upgrade price drop anytime soon?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mapaxton, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. mapaxton

    mapaxton Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello, i know that nobody probably has a definite answer but some people with more experience than me could atleast give their opinion on this subject. I am looking to buy a new Sager laptop in the next month or 2 months and i want the nvidia 780m card in it but cant quite afford it now because its an extra $350 over the 770m. Do you think the price will drop in the next 2 months from the $350 extra and how soon do you think it may happen. Thank you for your opinions
     
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    Probably when the 880m releases... ;) But likely they will just replace the 780m with the 880m with the same upgrade price point.
     
  3. dumitrumitu24

    dumitrumitu24 Notebook Evangelist

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    it will drop in may probably when i expect the new 8 series gtx class to come out..low end 8 series cards will be out probably next month
     
  4. Cloudfire

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    Just get the GTX 680M and overclock it with one of those vbios laying around.
    Or save your money til June and you will be able to buy a GTX 880MX which smacks the living heck out of the GTX 780M while running cooler
     
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    dumitrumitu24 Notebook Evangelist

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    i read some article that the new 880M will be just 12% faster than 780M in some pc magazine
     
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    That is correct. GTX 880M is just a GTX 780M with higher clocks.
    I was referring to GTX 800MX (if called that) which would be a brand new GPU made out of the new Maxwell architecture
     
  7. Spring1898

    Spring1898 Notebook Consultant

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    Like everyone else has been saying here,
    Probably not, at least not by a wide margin. When the new 800 series comes out, I might expect a $50 reduction, but that probably doesn't do it for you.
    If you are looking at high end chips, then waiting until the 870m comes out will give you the 780m performance at about the same price point as the 770m is now.
    The 880m will probably be a $400 upgrade at that point, and the 880mx that will follow will be a $450. These probably won't come out, however, until July or August. That is a long wait, but gives you more time to save up.

    What other people have said about the 680m is valid. It performs better than the 770m stock, and it has better overclock potential. Maxed overclocked 680m's put out a small margin (or more depending on the particular card and the size of the PSU) above a stock 780m. From what I have been told a maxed overclocked 780m will be about 10-15% above that.

    My last recommendation to you would be to try and find a nice 680m machine on the cheap, and then wait for Maxwell to fully come out, then resell and go after a true Maxwell card. Even if you lost $200 buying and selling (again depending on what you ultimately pay), you would have been able to play now, and then save for the real machine. Essentially you are "buying time"

    You didn't mention the 8970m AMD card, but I will throw this out as well. It is on par with the 680m, but does not possess the superior overclocking ability. It is simply a 7970m with higher clock and more VRAM.

    Hopefully some of this helps
     
  8. Kevin

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    Prices never go down, they just remove card and slide the new one in at the old's price.

    And I love people re selling him on waiting for a card that they don't know will even exist, in this calendar year.
     
  9. imglidinhere

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    The best bang for buck would technically be the GTX 675MX. If you can find one for cheap, it overclocks just as high and far as the 680M does and reaches the same levels, or within 10% at that.

    It's definitely the card I want to get. Just pushing the core clock by an additional 135MHz showed a 3k boost in Vantage scores. It was matching a 7970M just pushing what the stock bios could do.
     
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    I know it will exist. You know too.
    It is guaranteed to happen.
     
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    I specifically chose my 675mx for those reasons. It's basically an underclocked 680 minus some cuda cores. Runs cool (hasn't broken 80C a year in and I have yet to repaste) I've never had any driver issues (another reason I chose it over AMD). It was also $100 or $150 cheaper than the 7970 at time of purchase (14 months ago)

    To OP, do you really need the 780? Everyone always wants to have the 'best', but quite frankly, if you don't know what the difference is between coverage-sampled anti aliasing and multi-sampling anti aliasing, then you're really just spending money to show off your e-peen. The 770m is going to be play anything you want at full hd as long as you are willing to have some of the more technical graphics stuff turned down to high from ultra or to medium from high.
     
  12. mapaxton

    mapaxton Notebook Enthusiast

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    Show off my e-peen? I dont have one friend that that plays video games so i have nothing to show off. I like to run my games a ultra settings because i love graphics and i am a MMO gamer. With ESO about to come out and a big part of the game is PVP that may have 50-100 players on the screen, that will kill fps and dont want to run my at medium settings just so i dont lag. Also i dont want to have to turn around and upgrade in a year, something to last me maybe 2 years if possible.
     
  13. Kevin

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    Well, yes, something is always coming. The when is where we should tread lightly, when advising other people to wait for it. Not everyone is sitting contently, already with a powerful gaming laptop, like you and I.

    Some people like to buy a GPU that positions them where, "what settings do I turn down to run this well?", isn't the first thing they have to consider when booting the game which christens their brand new gaming laptop. There's a contentment in that, one which far exceeds the want to have it just for bragging rights. I will totally back your perspective, if you want to talk about the inflated prices of mobile CPUs, but that generally isn't the case in the GPU sector. Especially in gaming laptops, power equals longevity. If I have to lower settings at purchase, I have no confidence in what the prospects will be a couple years from now.

    And this is all before stating that the GTX 780M is not an insignificantly faster than the 770M.
     
  14. Spring1898

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    Wouldn't the GTX 770m be almost the same as the 675mx anyway with only clock and bandwidth differences? Again making the 675mx the cheaper option of the two?
    It is still cheaper than the 680m, but it sounds like he wants the most power that he can get.

    Where does the OP stand right now? Are you looking to get the most performance out of your dollar or wait? Are you feeling you would rather buy brand new of the current Gen, go previous to save money, or wait for next gen later this year?

    The consensus is that no, the price will not likely drop very soon, and if it did it wouldn't be by much, and it may not drop at all.
    But let us know what you are thinking/leaning towards.
     
  15. imglidinhere

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    The only issue I see with this is that the 675MX is simply NOT on Ebay and it's extremely hard to find... So that's a thing.
     
  16. Spring1898

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    Good point,
    From what I understand the OP doesn't have a gaming computer yet, though. So depending on what he wants to do, whether wait, buy now, or go used, that may not be an issue.