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    Windows 7, ati mobility radeon 4570, Counter strike

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by NemiKx, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. NemiKx

    NemiKx Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,


    I have notebook acer aspire 5536g Amd athon 64 QL 65
    Ati mobilty radeon 4570 (512 DDR2 memory) catalist 11.6
    4GB DDR2.

    Now my problem:
    When i play counter strike 1.6 so I have 100 Fps in menu and 100 fps everywhere on the map but when i see some he grenade or when i see 2 oher players so I have unstable fps from 100-50fps. I'm very frustrated about this, because i need 100 fps stable. Please help me!

    notice: In windows XP its OK.
     
    NemiKx, Jul 13, 2011
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  2. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    It's normal. Even I have it for some reason. I blame poor optimization on new hardware.
     
    Phistachio, Jul 13, 2011
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    alxlbf2 Notebook Consultant

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    Had the same problem on my notebook. Result -----> I dont play CSS anymore....
     
    alxlbf2, Jul 13, 2011
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    aintz Notebook Evangelist

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    the op was talking about cs1.6 not source. you probably dip below 50fps in source because a 5650m is slow
     
    aintz, Jul 13, 2011
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    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    lol... Lower settings maybe? Your CPU is bad, so no wonder why you dip less than 50. Source Engine <3 good CPUs.

    I get constant 60 on my laptop on 1080p. Sometimes dips to 40, rarely 30.
     
    Phistachio, Jul 13, 2011
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    WoW you also have such bad fps....
    When i started playing CSS on my Q6600 @ 4Ghz i had with a 8800GT around 70-120 FPS!
    That was ulra smooth.... Today i can play bfbc2 on dx11 with medium settings fluent on my notebook but my old pc is too weak for that. Anyway a good .cfg file is always necessary in CSS to play it fluent and without annoying input lags.
    At least the Source Engine is well optimized :). Frostbite 1.5 is a paradise of bugs and whasting resources.
     
    alxlbf2, Jul 13, 2011
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  7. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    Anything over 50 fps even on a competitive fps is pointless, you'll improve much more if you get a better mouse / keyboard / mousepad, and lots of practice of course.

    That said on my ATI 5650 CS:S 2011 version on all maxed and 4x AA gets over 100 fps on 768p and about 70 fps on 1080p with the benchmark.
     
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    I have @ home a G11 keyboard and a Trust MI-6970C Laser Mouse. Usually i connected them to my nb when i am gaming.
    @ the moment i play bfbc2 with my friend even if i die already after 10 seconds o_o. However its a great game for me ( i like the medician).
     
    alxlbf2, Jul 13, 2011
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  9. Phistachio

    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    I have VSync on, plus 2x MSAA, 16x AF and everything else maxed at 1080p ;)
     
    Phistachio, Jul 13, 2011
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    OP, I'm not sure why you NEED to have 100 FPS, seeing as your monitor probably only refreshes at 60Hz.
     
    hockeymass, Jul 13, 2011
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    OP is talking about CS 1.6 (HL1 engine).

    Are you running in Direct 3D or opengl? I think HL1 engine runs better in opengl.
     
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    I'm running in opengl. I'm playing Counter Strike 1.6 but this unstable fps is so bad :((
     
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    100 fps is better for faster fullout, beter aiming :)
     
    NemiKx, Jul 13, 2011
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    NemiKx Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have connected normal LCD monitor with 75 freq.
     
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    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    Therefore, you only see 75 FPS. The game's rendering at 100, but YOU only see 75 ;)
     
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    hockeymass that one guy

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    Guaranteed you wouldn't notice the difference between 50 and 100 FPS if you didn't have the counter in the corner.
     
    hockeymass, Jul 13, 2011
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    It's not a matter of 'noticing', it's about having the engine run at the highest available fps possible. In many engine, hl1, orangebox, COD, the user with higher fps constant shoots faster and moves faster and jumps higher,longer = a slight advantage in a game based on milliseconds of reaction time.
     
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    o god not the fps vs what you can see argument. i can bet you all the money in my bank that if you show me a game at 60fps vs it at 120fps i will pick out which is which.

    can we bring this thread back on topic and try to help out the op.
     
    aintz, Jul 13, 2011
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    Is anyone going to try to help him?


    Have you tried updating your drivers? (do a clean install) Maybe try manufacturer drivers if that doesn't work.

    I can run CS 1.6 in opengl with constant 100 fps [engine fps]; so I'm not sure why it's slowing down for you.

    Try reinstalling CS; that may also help flush out any bad command parameters.

    **EDIT**
    This link shows your card should be able to surpass cs 1.6 and play cs:source at 140 fps on high settings.
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4570.13885.0.html
     
    alexUW, Jul 13, 2011
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    Whatever you say. That's the highest available FPS. The reason it runs better on XP is because XP consumes less resources. Not rocket science.
     
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    did you quote the wrong person? This makes no sense to what I am saying.
     
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    Yes it does. I said:

    Whatever you say. (as in, "OK, champ.") That's ("That" being the FPS the OP is getting) the highest available FPS. The reason it runs better on XP is because XP consumes less resources (by virtue of it being ancient and less complex). Not rocket science.
     
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    I'm talking about the advantages of the HL1 engine and why it is beneficial to have higher fps. Not which OS the OP is using.
     
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    The second sentence is unrelated to the first.

    Does it ease your mind if I put it like this?

    Whatever you say.

    OP, that's the highest available FPS. The reason it runs better on XP is because XP consumes less resources. Not rocket science.
     
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    I had 100 fps when my notebook was new? Why?
     
    NemiKx, Jul 14, 2011
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  26. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    it wasnt filled with trash

    it probably was cooler, less dust

    you probably liked it more back then
     
    Karamazovmm, Jul 14, 2011
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  27. NemiKx

    NemiKx Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey, do anybody know, how to overclock my CPU?
     
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    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    Just checked, my laptop runs CSS at 100-160 FPS ( some dips to 70-80 ) with all maxed, 2x MSAA and 16x AF @ 1080p.

    Also, you CAN'T have more than 100 FPS in CS. That's how it was programmed.
     
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  29. NemiKx

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    I don't want to have 100 + FPS but I want to have 100 fps stable :)
     
    NemiKx, Jul 15, 2011
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    The only thing you could do are .cfg tweaks and lowering the settings.
    Also as a CSS player you should know that some servers have fps limitations.
     
    alxlbf2, Jul 15, 2011
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