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    Witcher 2 GPU benchmarks

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Jcyle, May 17, 2011.

  1. Jcyle

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    Brutal is all I can say.
     
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    rofl, is this a joke.... Kepler GTX 680/AMD HD7000 where are u...
     
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    If these were done without Nvidia's newest drivers (275 BETA), they are basically worthless. Doesn't excuse poor performance on the AMD side of things. Really is an amazing looking game though.

    ALSO


    This is a quote from the Guru3d forums, could be why the performance is awful right now.

    So try this maybe?
     
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    The AMD side performed accordingly to nVidia's side. So I don't think the BETA 275 is going to be that much of a difference. Besides, no mention of The Witcher 2 in nVdia's BETA release notes for the 275 drivers.

    edit: Just read your posts
     
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    it takes gtx 570 sli to run this game nicely or 6970 crossfire.

    ridiculous.
     
  9. Jcyle

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    Our laptops wouldn't stand a chance against TW2 until a new driver comes out, which could take some time since they just released the BETA for desktop counterparts. My OC'd GTX260m just got slapped to its knees at 1440x900 low~medium.
     
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    I'll be posting benchmarks tonight if I get a chance, I know I have desktop components but I am interested to see if my performance sucks as well, or if the drivers can fix it. I wouldn't mind getting another card for SLI but I didn't think I may have to so soon.

    Is there not a modded INF for these at laptop2govideo? If there is you notebookies can use em too.
     
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    Finished the thread, seems BETA driver is not working for some people? Strange :confused:
     
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    Lol, that's why it's BETA. :p

    Mr. Mysterious
     
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    Ahahahaha true true.
     
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    I guess if nicely means having to have uber sampling. Turn that off and maybe SSAO and you'll be good on the the rest maxed out... the game runs well for me. I'm happy with it so far.
     
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    Lol so running this game on notebooks at high is pretty much not going to happen if you want playable fps i suppose.
     
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    With Uber~Sampling, you're probably looking at a Tri~580s with the current official drivers, with probably a 5ghz SB or 4ghz 980x. lols :p

    Honestly I didn't expect to be this demanding at release even if the drivers are not optimize. But considering it is a ground up PC title, I'm not that surprised.
     
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    Well, how does it look and perform with reduced detail? Is there any one or two features that can be reduced to greatly improve performance, like shadows?
     
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    Turn off SSAO, Depth of Field - Gameplay and Motion Blur for a big, big FPS boost.

    Also, to anyone that disabled core parking on their i5/i7 laptop: turn it back on. I switched from a custom 'Gaming' power plan to the default 'High Performance' profile and gained 5-6 FPS, and I think it's because Core Parking works better with Turbo Boost, gives Witcher 2 a big gain in FPS...

    I'm running a G73JH (Core i7 720m, 5870 Mobility 1 GB, 6 GB of RAM) overclocked on both CPU and GPU (840/1100) and getting decent FPS after a lot of tweaking @ 1080p. Still trying to find the best optimizations for mobile gamers (especially G73 users), but I think the game/drivers really need a lot of work as it's inconsistent as hell even on Medium settings.
     
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    I think the GTX 485M or the HD6970M will handle it at High settings. Also when the graphics drivers have been optimised with this game in mind as well as new patches being released for the game, everything should improve. Just think back to when some games were unplayable on their first release without a Quad but were fixed after patches were released.
     
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    I really don't see why anyone is surprised by how tough it it on systems. When the minimum was listed as the 8800 GT, we knew that the majority of notebook users were in trouble. The game is a beast.

    I am currently playing through the Prologue, experimenting with settings to find the best mix. The game looks great, even at reduced details. It's so tempting to leave the heavy eye candy enabled, but it's just to much of a performance hit.

    I'm also lost. I might have to read the manual on this one.
     
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    Seeing how my GTX260m roots back to the 8800GT, I knew TW2 wasn't going to be easy; and the fact that the GTX260m is no slouch in terms of notebook does not help either.

    With the new beta drivers, I'm trying to find the sweet spot for visual/performance at 720p and lower resolution.

    And yes, it's very tempting to turn up the awesome eye candies and play :p
     
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    So far everything I've read is in line with expectations, as already mentioned this game was built ground-up for the PC and the developers were not lying when they wanted it to be the best RPG on release both on visuals and gameplay.

    Claims have been made that the 6970m/485m can just about play the game comfortably on high settings (sadly not highest/ultra/whatever maximum settings are called). Seeing it's so new and no one's out of the prologue just yet, any reports using FRAPS or the like with these cards would be appreciated.

    I'm annoyed I can't play the game period until mid-October at the earliest.
     
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    i am getting 18-25 fps at medium with SSAO and shadows turned of.
    Even overclocked my 6750 a bit. Anyhow i guess i am going to play on low.

    To all those people who post movies with 40fps on youtube at high. Try at least native display setting and some intense moment like dragon fight or act1 city arrival.

    its just unplayable on medium and i am raging :D
    Not going to expect bootcamp drivers updated soonish either -- i think our last update was from january.

    Also act 1 save games take like 10 minutes to load for some reason. is it jsut me?
     
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    ^yeah probably but since when I game I have the HDTV right there and the game is natively 16:9 why would I bother otherwise :) if I need to game away from the desk then I'll turn it down but I'm really happy on how it runs for me to the 720p tv.
     
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    Well, started at medium settings and was getting14-18ish on stock clock 8800GTS. Took forever to OC because I had that damn bug that wouldn't let me install nvidia performance tool. Had to rectify that. Then I finally got around to installing Throtlestop and upping and locking my CPU modifiers (T9300, 2.5 ghz). Couldn't run new beta driver (crashes like all other 200.xx series have on my rig).

    Anyway, after OC'ing GPU and adjusting CPU speed, dropped res from 1680x1050 to 1600x1024, still on medium settings (auto detect says low BTW) I have raised FPS to a very playable 24-28ish. This is during the siege part, fighting to get the ballista.

    Hopefully, game patching optimizes it better in the future...I don't hold any hope for new driver fixes. This is first time I have upgraded video driver in quite some time because I got tired of all newer ones crashing my system.
     
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    Interesting stuff. I am playing on the default high settings at 1920x1080 except I have increased LOD distance to normal from the default near. I could tell the frame rates were capped but I was surprised to find when I lit fraps up to get some numbers that it capped at 30. I get 30 everywhere outside no matter where I am, whats going on, where the character is looking, standing still, running, combat, 30 frames per second. It is 60 in the menus but 30 in the loading screens and all through the game. It appears to be a hard cap like at 60 where you bounce around at 58, 59, 60, 58, and so on but it happens at 30. Inside same thing but rather than 30 it is 45 and it locks in there like it is capped. Not seen this one before, curious what you guys think.

    A couple things I noticed, the difficulty is starting to ramp up a little. I was having a fair easy time at combat to start (normal difficulty) but it has become more challenging. Opening up the 360 degree parry had made it a little more interesting to block in real time and gives it less of a click till they die feeling. I locked up hard at a loading screen and had to ctrl alt del out. I also ran into glitch where a soldier was outside a door I was trying to open and both the soldier and I went into the combat mode where you hear the martial music and so on but I couldnt open the door with the soldier standing right outside of it. Had to revert to save.
     
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    You have v-sync enabled?
     
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    I'm getting 30FPS at high settings. Set it to ultra for fun and got hammered down to 10-11FPS.

    Game looks great at high anyway.

    *edit* - Installed the Nvidia 275.25 beta drivers and got the same results.
     
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    Tried it both ways.
     
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    What works best for you? I have the exact same specs (2630QM and 6970M) so I'm curious what the best settings are working the best so far.
     
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    I posted up how to optimize any recent laptop for Witcher 2.

    Check here:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/572091-witcher-2-g73jh-8.html

    I went from having low 20's for FPS on Medium/High settings @ 1080p to having 35-40 FPS.

    Quick settings: Enable Core Parking, use default High Performance plan (SSD tweaked power plan is slower and disabling core parking, don't use more than 8x AF as AF has a big performance hit in this game, disable SSAO, Motion Blur, Depth of Field - Gameplay at the very least.)
     
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    Is it just me or game take 5+ minutes to load a save from act 1? Thats just weird. (i dont have ssd yet)
     
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    I didn't really counted the save time but it was definitely long.

    With some tweaking with the game settings and nVidia control panel, got the fps of the GTX260m to around 25+ at 720p with most settings at medium and off; did have shadows on though.
     
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    First of all thanks for tips. It really helped ALOT.
    There seem to be some glitch with my video memory was set to low in game settings. Maybe that alone hold me down.

    Anyway I have some questions:
    1. What is core parking and is it enabled by default? Lets assume i have fresh win7 32b install. If not how do i enable it?
    2. I used that cpu utility you said but after playing for like 10 minutes my CPU temp was around 86C (not sure if that was stable, peak or rising though) and basically if you press notebook with a finger you could possible get a burn (np i am using external everything but still). So i was wondering is it kind of "rather safe maybe cooler will live 10% less" or its more like "extreme, you cpu will live twice less or will just burn out tomorrow"?
    3. I also overclocked my gpu from 600 / 750 to 750/900 — can i assume thats rather safe as well?
    4. After following your instructions and dropping stuff from medium settings i feel like i have EVERYTHING turned off now :D What can i actually enable so the game look a bit prettier and doesn eat truckload of fps.

    It seems like my lowest poing is above 23fps now with average 35-40. Thats playable.
     
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    Having core parking off should not effect performance, and if it did it should only be in a good way.

    You sure that effected performance or what that just a part of a set of tweaks you did that you did not test independently .
     
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    I am readin throttlestop guide and it says
    And you advice to do it?

    You sure its not EXTREME modifications to cpu or anything?
     
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    This is the config I'm liking:

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    The hardware requirements for this is really brutal, I could only play smoothly at medium-high on my 5870MR - basically high settings with AA off and vertical sync off.

    Nope, for me it loads almost instantly.
     
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    Screenshots at these settings, with FRAPS counter:

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    Is this game DX11?

    Just wanna know, for fun lol, how would my 5730 run TW2 with all texture and detail-related settings maxed, shadows on low and everything off except Bloom and Light shafts? At 1080p and 768p.
     
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    Yikes, umm....I would guess on 1080p, it would be like 10fps, and on 768p, maybe 20?

    Mr. Mysterious
     
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    Your only option, with the 5730, is starting at low settings, then moving up from there.
     
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    As reported by a couple of users, textures seem to have the most impact. What if some one tries having texture downscalong enabled? Or it would be pretty ugly?

    Also, my most important things, IMHO, for me are textures, detail, bloom and light shafts. I can live with low at everything else. But those are a must. Do you think I would get 20-30 FPS with that setup?
     
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    When I see 260M and 6770M users dropping to 720p medium settings and averaging 25-28fps, I see little hope for the 5730, which is 50% slower than either of them.
     
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    The game isn't using more than 4-5 cores at a time, and it seems that Turbo Boost is ramping up to higher multipliers with Core Parking enabled since it's shutting down unnecessary cores.

    Forcing core parking to be disabled keeps all 8 cores on, so the game scales across all 8 of those cores - and then Turbo Boost is more limited. Seems that it's happy using 4-5 at a time and changing multipliers for those independently.


    PROTCHOT being off is fine, at least with core i5/i7. Your system will shut itself down when overclocked before it burns itself up.

    Core parking is enabled by default.

    I can't tell you if your overclock is safe or not - it depends on your laptop and how well cooled it is, if the chip is a good overclocker from the factory, etc. As long as it isn't running too hot and isn't artifacting, it should be ok.

    Make sure Texture Downscaling isn't set to Low or High, but rather 'Off' - as long as you have 1 GB or more of VRAM, this should be fine. You might be able to turn Shadows/Number of Shadowed Lights to Medium/High, Bloom On (or off for taste), Light Shafts enabled, and Motion Blur.

    Here's my settings for anyone with a Radeon 5870M that wants a good balance of FPS (30+) and eyecandy.

    1920x1080
    Texture Downscaling: None
    Texture Memory Size: Large
    Shadow Quality: High
    Number of Shadowed Lights: High
    LOD Distance: Normal
    Bloom: Enabled (sometimes I disable it, still messing with it)
    Lightshafts: Enabled
    Antialiasing: Disabled
    Blur Effects: Enabled
    Depth of Field - Gameplay: Disabled
    Vignette: Enabled
    Wet Surfaces Rain Effect: Enabled
    SSAO: Disabled
    Motion Blur: Enabled
    Cinematic Depth of Field: Disabled
    Depth of Field - Cutscenes: Enabled
    Dangling Objects Limit: Enabled
    Ubersampling: Disabled
    Vertical sync: Disabled
    Decals: High Spec

    Still trying to determine if Light Shafts and Bloom have a significant effect on FPS. Difference between LOD: Near and LOD: Normal seems insignificant, but reduces geometry pop-in quite a bit. On my GPU, Shadow settings (other than SSAO) seem to have no FPS impact from Medium to High, and looks a little better too. Chalking this up to unoptimized game rendering and unoptimized AMD drivers.
     
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    Heyyy, that gives me a decent amount of hope :) Maybe I can actually play this game on 1080p!

    Yes, the 460M is only 10% slower than the 5870M.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
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    Try overclocking your 460M. I'd suggest 100 Mhz core, 100-200 Mhz RAM, and 150-250 Mhz on the shaders to start.

    My 5870M is overclocked from 700/1000 to 850/1100 at the moment (same speed as desktop 5770).
     
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    Lol, thanks for the advice :) But I'm going to overclock my card after a year. I just want it to last as long as possible.

    Though I have to admit, the temps have been great lately :) Much better than my CPU, which is starting to consistently become the hottest component, even on idle.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
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    Overclocking has very little noticeable effect on life. At most, it'd take the lifespan of the card down from 10 years to 5-7 years. I'm 98% sure you'll have a different laptop in a year or two anyways.
     
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    Well usually you'd be right, lol...I'd normally have a new PC in 2 years. But since my 8130 is upgradeable, instead of a new PC, I'm going to get a new GC in two years.

    Back on topic, what would be the bare minimum card required for playing this game on 720p, medium and achieving a frame rate of 30fps consistently?

    My guess would be the 5650 or the 5750 (does that exist?)

    Mr. Mysterious
     
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