World of Warcraft - For those who missed it...

I have never played any morpgs (massive online rpg) yet I have played quite a few rpgs such as Dragon Age Origins, FF, Demons Souls (on ps3) and other I can't recall now..

However I have never played World of Warcraft. (I know, I know, how could I?)

The one-million dollar question is:
Now that the new one will be released in a couple of days, is it worth giving it a try? Is it possible giving world of warcraft a try? or it is simply too late for me to grasp and enjoy such a game?

Thanks in advance for all your comments

 

World of Warcraft has a lot to learn. Once you get it it's pretty easy. But just from leveling 1-80, talking to people, and then going through the dungeons you should be fine. Talk to people who play the same class as you who do Arena and in good raiding guilds.

It's not like you have to do research. Just from the above you'll be very good at the game.

Reason why I wouldn't recommend WoW to anyone is I don't want to recommend anyone to play the amount WoW really requires for high level Arena (PvP) or Raiding (PvE).

If you want to just play casually that's possible. But even then expect a minimum of an hour at a time. And you won't accomplish much.

Good part is there are a lot of casual players. I find a lot of players who used to play a lot, then reduced play time. They aren't tempted to return to hardcore as much. But I find new players are more tempted to play a ton. Increase amount of time. Get better gear. Get better achievement. Join better guilds.

Anyways, it's up to you. I think there are plenty of other good games out there. If you want to play MMORPG go for it. But in general MMORPG is all about, time. More time you spend, better you are in general.

 

Refer a friend program is nice if you know someone that plays that way they can run with you to level. I use my g73jh to play wow on at work during my lunch break.

 

More importantly, you can buy WoW, The Burning Crusade (first expansion) and Wrath of the Lich King ("current" about to be replaced in two weeks) for a seriously rebated price right now on blizzard.com's online store.

And it actually makes more sense to do it now. The expansion that's coming now, Cataclysm, contained a complete revamp of all the old zones and areas. Everything is, by far, much better and more playable now then the old 5 year old quests. They've learnt a lot over the years.

I say go for it and have some fun with it

 

god that game is addicting...

 

you cant imagine how much I enjoyed quitting WoW

 

Don't play WoW. I played it for almost 5 years... and I want my 5 years back. Its addicting, you will loose sleep over it, you work, social, and love life will suffer...

You may be saying to yourself: "naa, not me. I can play just a little every night"... you say that now... but you will see what I mean when you sit down one night at 7pm, and next thing you know, its 1am and you have work the next day.

Stay away from WoW! You have been warned...

Brb, doing 25 man ICC... >.>

 

they new one is going to be just as addicting as the other 3, hah id say its worth getting. correct me if im wrong but you need the first 3 before you play cataclyism ?

 

Hah yeah, the feeling of relief was pretty big: "wait wait, you're telling me I can go out whenever I want now without letting guildmates/raiders down? I have my tuesdays back?!"

Though unlike turmoil I don't regret playing it... but I'm not sure if I'd do it all again.

 

don't get it now. Blizzard is trying to milk that game for all its worth - let it die finally. you're going to spend soooooooooooo much time trying to just get involved with Cataclysm, that when you do get to the point where you can experience the bulk of its features, you're not going to be "geared" high enough to do anything, and everyone will already be too geared out to want to participate in things with you.

save your money AND time and wait for a new game.

 

You got that right!

My grades plummeted to 50%'s when I used to raid/pvp.

Since I've quit (quite a while ago), my grades are now in the mid 80's, have a social life, women in my life, I sleep at 2AM (usually) instead of 8AM, I eat healthy instead of throwing the fastest cooking item from my fridge in the microwave, etc. lol

WoW can destroy your entire life. I'm glad I no longer play, but may return for the xpack JUST for rated BG's, which will require 10hrs/week. Never touching raids or alts again.

If you delve into everything the game has to offer (pve, pvp, achievements, alts, professions, etc.) then that will consume your entire life. Just stay away from raiding because you'll always want to be in the best gear, but since tiers refresh every 3 months, you will never achieve that unless you play 40-60hrs/wk+.

 

It wont die anytime soon, the game still have millions of subscribers, still the most played mmo worldwide, and with cataclysm its going to draw again more people. One day it will die, or go into submersion and only true fans will stay and people will move on like they have in the past, but that day doesn't seem near though, my guess is blizzard will still going to get 2 or 3 more expansion out of it, around 4-5 years, and they already working on a new mmo, so that could be the day that WOW becomes less popular and another games takes over.

This is true.

This is not true, specially if Cataclyms follows the trend of Lick king, with all content being available for all, with pugs everywhere, and every day doing almost everything, specially now that 10mans drop the same loot as 25mans.

I don't play much anymore out of the above, the game has become way to casual friendly and there is not much way to differentiate, this might sound elitist to some point, but i feel blizzard is giving to much into casual players out of being the majority, so to me is no longer appealing as it was before.

 

That's just not true; if you're really keen on doing endgame, hardcore raiding, you'll find a way into it. Leveling doesn't take that long (besides, you should probably try to enjoy it as it's actually designed to be fun now) and if you're looking for a casual experience the above doesn't matter either way.

Quitting raiding in wow was the best thing I've ever done in a game; it was fun and all, but way to consuming. Having the freedom to do what I want to do, when I want is much more important to me then some shiny new epics.

 

that is, to be able to do any top tier instances you have to be "really keen" on participating in endgame features, ie, be more than just a casual player. buying cataclysm for a casual experience when you don't have the game at all is a bit much. leveling 1-80 can be done quickly, but for newer people it will probably take time to do so. i had friends who played religiously but it consumes so much of their time just to be able to consume all of their time.

in other words, it's like going and completing an undergraduate degree just so you can get a job - you're going to need to gear up just to gear up. that's how they trap you in the game.

however i have a few buddies who know time management and they say they play high level endgame stuff but don't play all that much, but they have been playing the game for the last 5 years so they've probably "been there, done that" for most things in the game.

 

Played over... 4 years. Well, every expansion Blizzard makes WoW more and more pug/noob friendly, you level fast and get gear pretty fast. So every newbie can feel comfortable at start and in Cataclysm(latest expansion) starting quests and zone nicely done and even more polished. So you can try, you have lots a things to do, PVE(very nice and epic dungeons), mass PVP or Arena PVP for more challenge. But other ppl right about time, WoW will consume a lot of time whatever you do PVE or PVP.

 

Hi everyone, i never played WoW either, and i intend on giving it a shot but only in single player mode, so my question is which one has the best single player campaign, options, hours of play... in short, which one is the most enjoyable?

 

There is no singleplayer mode . It's an MMORPG, online only.

 

I played it for a few days and then stopped Probably because I have no one I know to play with really

 

But in warcraft 3 there was a single player campaign, not the case in WoW ??

 

World of Warcraft is an MMORPG

Warcraft 3 is RTS

Two different genres sorry

 

oooh, that makes things clear Thanks for clearing this out.

In that case new question, which warcraft has the best single player campaign

 

There's no single player in mmoRPGs. Everything you do is online. I liked playing WoW and other mmoRPGs but I decided to quit and use the $15 monthly payment to buy other games. I also had a lot of free time to do other stuff after I quit mmoRPGs lol!

Anyway, you should play the the trial and see how the game fits you before buying it.
World of Warcraft 10-Day Free Trial
I believe 10 days is more than enough for you to get a grasp into the game.

 

Yeah i got the fact that WoW it's a mmoRPG, but i was referring to warcraft not WoW, since i never player any sort of warcraft i'm thinking about giving one a shot, but only in single player mode, and i was wondering which one i will enjoy the most

 

The warcraft 3 demo gives you single player missions and a small multiplayer part. I got into WoW because of Warcraft III.

FilePlanet: Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos Demo

 

Not to go completely nerdy here, but I've just started on the books and found myself surprisingly hooked. I didn't start on the "proper" one, but I find the wow lore most interesting so I started on the Rise Of the Horde! book. Recomended .

 

I've yet to kick the WoW habit for any period of time longer than 6 months. This time i'm dragged back in as some friends and now my Dad and little sister play and kinda want to run together. "The shattering" just started so the landscape has changed significantly in many starting zones, actually looks pretty cool.

Plan on doing a redbull powered marathon with real life friends from level 80-85, that is if Gamestop ships my copy ontime *cough* *cough*

Wish I had known Blizzard was going to offer digital upgrade but oh well.

I figure i'll play for a month, beat almost every aspect and in the end quit again but its worth a shot one more time. Hoping to enjoy it longer but Wrath of Lich King was less than stellar when I picked it up for midnight release. But hey I would love to be surprised!

 

The beginning quests changed significantly as well, just created a new tauren pally alt, now I feel like creating an alt of every class again...

 

I can relate to the time WoW will consume from your life if you allow it. I've played it since release and i love it, but never could commit to raiding as it interfered with work and family. It's been more than a year since I've played and that's only because my laptop fried. Anyways, are there any other good mmorpg's before I return to my addiction of choice!!

 

I used to play so much that when I finally quit I had so much free time I didn't know what to do with it. My schedule was a complete mess because of the time I put in to play WoW. Took almost a month to get my life back in order.

On a side note, I started WoW since closed beta and played it till the end of last year. Was in a top 25 US raiding guild and had a 2300+ arena team ever since arena was introduced in Burning Crusade...only reason why I quit (and not to sound elitist or anything) was because Blizz started catering to casuals and everything could be obtained so easily. I couldn't see a challenge in the game anymore and left. (Plus also needed to put in more time for work)

My advise is to stay the hell out of being a hardcore player unless you have the time commitment. I have yet to see anyone who is truly "casual" (aka only putting in like an hour or two a day at most during the day)

 

well said Hydeo, as with everything in life, it's about doing things in moderation...

i think blizzard did a great job in creating a game where the character and community grows on you...

at the height of my wow-days, i loved the character... i loved my on line friends and community/guild...

end game raiding was great at 40man level... and it should have been kept that way... the 10 man raiding is a joke... there's nothing to work for... and soounds funny when relating to a game, but there's nothing to aspire to...

yea, they were elitists... but being a member of a good guild meant something...

blizzard watered down this game too much...


but yesterday, had fun with the xbox live motion thing.... lvoe to see something like that for wow!

 

I agree with you posters above me ^

Vanilla WoW and the start of BC = Best WoW experience for me. I enjoyed 40 man raids, epics meaning something, difficult content, almost-impossible BC heroics (at the start), etc.

I quit after 1.5 months into WotLK b/c it was soooo easy, that it was like playing a game with cheats. I was in (still am but I don't play) in a server first guild and it was pretty retarded beating new [nearly all] content in days or a week tops.

I remember in Vanilla/start of BC where it took a while to beat content, which I liked. It felt like an accomplishment, rather than free loot.

This is why I'm only going to do rated BG's in Cata. Raiding is going to be a cake walk once again. Might do arena's, but I was never a fan box-PVP.

WoW was once a great game, but all the crying from people who played 2hrs/week ruined it. Showing up with greens in raids and in PVP, getting owned, and then crying (not to sound elitist, but it's true ).

Instead of nerfing everything, Blizzard should of just given a free "Beginners Set" of gear after a player completed a quest chain, which could of been unlocked once dinging 80 (for PVE/PVP). This would of prevented PVP QQ due to being 1 shot and entrance level PVE QQ.

 

That sentence sums up EVERYTHING about WoW and how it has evolved.

The feeling of beating other guilds on your server (Or other #1 guilds throughout the world) felt like an accomplishment. I know its just a game, but the sense of beating a dungeon that hasn't been beaten by someone else (and wouldn't be completed for at least a couple months..like Naxx 40) gives a nice warm and fuzzy feeling.

It may sound elitist, but in my opinion, its just a game where you hit wasd, a couple of hotkeys and don't stand where you're not suppose to stand. How I play the game is exactly how the person next to me plays. There is no magic way of beating stuff. You just need coordination, know your class mechanics, and know where to stand and where not to stand. Nerfing content so that you can stand in fire or press less buttons kinda defeats the purpose of a challenge. A mmorpg is suppose to feel like a challenge, not holding hands and get free loot. If you feel that hand holding and free loots is necessary then the current state of WoW is exactly that (Also Hello Kitty Island Adventure might be right up your alley ).

And yes, in case somebody didn't mention it before. You get the same loot now (In Cata) in 10 man raids and 25 man raids. Which means 25 man raids are useless since no one will want to 15 deadweights for the same loot. Plus 10 man is a hell lot easier to organize.

 

Fully agree with Voodooi on this one, Vanilla and BC raiding was great. Heck even heroics were fun as they took alot of team work to do them even with good players. Also agree with your idea of a beginners set, would have been nice.

Now while waiting for Cata it's pretty boring. Heroics are such a joke my friends have often had a DPS or even 2 DPS lag out and we just go and finish the instance, pretty sad.

A purple is gauranteed to drop off the last boss of every heroic in Lich King now, I remember when you were all excited if you got one. Oh well nothing we can do about it, blizzard made their choice.

I will level all my 80s to 85 most likely to try out their end game, probably level a new race to 85 just to try out the new starter content (goblin here i come! and maybe worgen too).

Rated BG's also interest me as I have a full PVP geared rogue on a PVP server, but the balance is so bad the alliance never queue up. If you kill them in open world they log over to your faction and yell at you like its against the rules....on a pvp server......ya ok.

I plan on having fun though, new content is always nice. Friends have already decided when we get our copies gonna form a five man and plow right through!

 

Personally i find WoW a borefest. Never played it apart from the free trial and i uninstalled the game in an hour.

 

Even if you focus on a single character and dont play like crazy, the game eats away all your free time.

Youre going to have to spare AT LEAST 2 hours, preferably 3 if you want to get an instance done. The solo stuff is fun and all but thats where the game is at.

 

For those who want to do PVP-only, 10hrs/week is all you'll need, however, the first week or two will be more time consuming to level and get a decent BG set.

Then you can PVP @ 10hrs/week and have a high rated BG team My class is ridiculously overpowered (tried my friends for a few hours a couple weeks ago) since the patch (Holy Paladin), so I won't need much gear at 85 (been playing it for 4 years, I'm not a FOTM ).

Those who want to play all aspects will be playing 40+/hours a week, though. I prefer to stick to one aspect of the game - my grades stay high and my social life stays intact

 

You only need at most 10hrs a week for PVE raiding as well, provided you are not in some hardcore raiding guild that is going for server first achievements. I play PvE and I only play about 3 nights a week for weekly guild raid, for around 2-4hrs each night, and that's it.

 

A friend of mine in the US that's in the top 10 world guild told me that his guild leader made a requirement for all members to get a SSD (Solid State Drive) in order to raid and a picture/receipt submission was required.

...and that is why I was never interested in top 10 guilds I'm sure not all top guilds do this, but I just found it comical how this was required or else ... lol

I'm guessing it increases your DPS slightly, since WoW is a hard drive hog.

 

Wow an SSD just to raid? That seems a little overkill to say the least! I'll stick with casual raiding / guild pvp. Seriously though, how much can a SSD really change ones DPS?

I like my elemental shaman for raiding, all you have are like 3 buttons to hit in a set order and an occasional blood lust, totems are so simple its ridiculous.

Also the mastery for elemental makes shammy OP!! Thanks a ton Cataclysm!

Subtlety rogue is alot of fun now for PVP, so many cooldowns to burn. Wish cata would hurry up and come out! I've about gotten my characters capped on Justice points and heroics are such a snooze fest.

 

Well even though i do think its an overkill, it should help loading, a disconnect should come back faster maybe even preventing a wipe (have wiped a lot of time when the MT healer or MT dcs). But if there is a game that could benefit imo is something like wow, there is a lot of hdd activity even playing, while changing zones etc. I think it should be a plus but not a requirement, but then again i never been on a top 25 guild.

 

RUCKUS, NYEGAARD, TURMOIL, DBOOGIEC, LEVENLY, VOODOOI AND HYDEO,
thank you all for your comments/advise

I still dont know if i have enough time to spare for the new Cataclysm.
I definately dont have time to start from original wow and move forward..

If I can start Catac. and enjoy it without being harcore, then i'll give it a try otherwise i can not go all the way back and then move forward

I hope there's a cata demo

 

there is no cata demo but there is the 10 day free trial. honestly even the casual gamer can have fun with WoW. first off, if you work or go to school and don't have a lot of time to put into it its great because it'll take you a while to get leveled up. and believe me on your first character leveling is FUN. your not rushing to get level capped so you can raid with your guild. if you do have a lot of time to put into it, you won't mind it when you spend a lot of time on it.
second, when you get to 85 (which will be the cap in cata) you STILL won't be raiding. they are upping the difficulty and need for a reliable group greatly from WotLK, so doing the heroic dungeons will give you plenty of opportunity to start working with a group and learning what spec you want to raid with. Plus, you'll be doing them a lot while your working on your raiding set, not to mention the money youll need for gem sockets and enchantments
finally, youll start raiding, and even then youll end up finding a guild that has set raid times and it should be easy to find one that suits when you are able to.

 

yep, as JT said, you need:

vanilla wow for lvl 1-60
burning crusade for lvl 60-70
wrath of the lich king for lvl 70-80
cata for lvl 80-85

 

So can you buy cataclysm and just play that, or do you need to buy the previous three first?

 

You need every expansion and original game. Think about it. How do you get from 1-80 levels? The expansion is only 80-85 levels.

But you can usually find a Warcraft chest with the original game and the other previous expansions.

The latest expansion won't be part of that chest.

Be prepared to spend around $100 for your first month of play.

 

I think blizzard has an sale atm

World of Warcraft $5
The Burning Crusade $5
Wrath of the Lich King $10
Cataclyms $40

So $60 for a new player, and i think you get the first month of suscription free or included with the original WOW purchase (not sure if its like that anymore, used to be).

Edit seems the offer expired yesterday

 

The sales on WoW through WotLK is one excellent deal for any new player. I highly recommend jumping on them now. Unless you want to play a goblin or worgen, you can get away without Cataclysm for the time being (although you'll miss out on the Amazon $10 credit and other pre-order bonuses), you'll miss out on a few things but you can always pick it up if you get into your new character/hit 80.

 

I just got the 10 day trial yesterday, and I am having a lot of fun so far, which scares me because I don't want to lose my life to this game lol.

 

What you dont know is you already lost it.... WOW is evil, but a lot of fun. Seriously try to be careful though, it can swallow your life if you are no careful.

 

I played wow from grades I think 5 to 8 and now in 9th grade I have quit and honestly it feels alot better to be able to talk about shooters to the popular kids rather than talking about wow to the like 2 kids I knew who played it and that was my whole life. Wow is a great game, but at some point it just got boring for me, but be warned as said above of its evil addictiveness I would honestly advise you to run a search whole computer for WoW and delete all results then block wow related websites from your browser.

edit: I cannot stress the danger of WoW enough. Treat it as an actually dangerous drug (herroin or coke, not pot), or a computer virus that can come out of the computer and take over your life.