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    Worthwhile to upgrade from T7200 to T7600 with an X1600 for Fallout 3 ?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by WARDOZER9, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. WARDOZER9

    WARDOZER9 Notebook Consultant

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    I have the chance to buy a T7600 from a friend for $50 and was wondering if it would be worthwhile to upgrade from a T7200 for Fallout 3 when my laptop has a 256mb X1600 mobility. Atm I play at 1024x640 on high detail with 4x AF and max view distances on land characters and items but everything else is either off or on lowest settings and while playable and enjoyable there are a few times I get som minor and only slightly annoying stuttering or jerkiness.

    Think it's be worthwhile to get the 330mhz CPU upgrade?
     
  2. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    i dont think it would help you and i would rather crank up the res and lower the details...
     
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    A FSB overclock using a PLL pinmod if necessary + DIY ViDock using expresscard or mPCIe slot would see far larger % improvement in FPS than the T7200->T7600 upgrade.
     
  4. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I would buy the t7600 just to resell it on eBay for $140 :)
     
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    @Wardozer9 - first see if you can underclock your current speed by 300 mhz. Then run fraps with logging enabled F11 and see what your average fps is in game while playing. Then change your cpu back to normal speed and benchmark your fps with fraps. Do you see an increase? If so then that is what you can expect from your current levels now to a 300mhz faster cpu. Does this make sense?

    1. Anotherwords - underclock your cpu
    2. benchmark
    3. set your cpu back to stock
    4. benchmark
    5. compare results
    6. make decision on upgrading cpu.

    Best wishes, StevenX
     
  6. WARDOZER9

    WARDOZER9 Notebook Consultant

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    That makes so much sense it's almost crazy -.-
     
  7. Levenly

    Levenly Grappling Deity

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    honestly, i thought about that when i had my m9750, but the t7600 is extremely expensive for some odd reason, especially since after the 800mhz fsb C2D processors came out, intel never dropped the price on them, so even as of last year a new one would cost $500+ for old technology that was barely a performance increase (price :performance, that is) over the t7200.

    i had my t7200 clocked at 2.25 ghz for quite a while, and it worked wonderful. it did gain ~600 marks in 3dmark06 and games ran smoother overall, with maybe a 4-5 fps increase overall, but the minimum fps was bumped up slightly which helped.

    however, if you can get the cpu for $50, then OC it to maybe 2.4ghz-2.5ghz which i think has been done with it, you're jumping ~500mhz which should give you a significant performance increase overall.
     
  8. WARDOZER9

    WARDOZER9 Notebook Consultant

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    Well, I did it :-/ Haven't had a chance to fire up Fo3 yet but this thing does not undervolt as well as I'd hoped. Does 2.33 @ 1.0875v and takes 0.9875 for 2ghz vs the .975 the T7200 took :-/ Good thing it still runs 1ghz with the min .95v so at least temps should be the same on battery :-/

    So far the T7600 seems to run 10*C hotter than the T7200 under full load but I immagine this is because of the extra 333mhz and the extra voltage over the T7200 so it's prob plenty normal though I still don't like it :(

    I could not find a way to underclock the T7200 or do anything with the CPU though as I am typing this I just realized I could have used RMclock to lock the T7200 to 1.6 then 1.8ghz and bench it and do the math to find out te diference 300mhz woulda made DOH!
     
  9. Nick

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    It shouldn't run any hotter, did you replace the thermal paste on it when you changed out the CPU?
     
  10. WARDOZER9

    WARDOZER9 Notebook Consultant

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    For starters, it would seem the extra 330mhz is not making a noticeale difference in Fallout 3. Still a tiny bit jerky outdoors and 1280x800 is still not useable with the rest of the settings untouched.

    Yes. Even tried recleaning and reapplying the AS5 after I posted and temps are still the same. Hotter does make sense as the CPU is running at 1.0875v @ 2.33ghz vs the 0.975v the T7200 was using at 2ghz. So reguardless of the clock speed the voltage is higher which explains the heat. I did tweak the voltages while OCCT was running dropping the voltage every 5 minutes untill OCCT error'd out then I upped the voltage and went to the next multi down and ended up with these final voltages:

    T7600:
    Max load temp with OCCT is 71* C

    6x 0.95v
    7x 0.95v
    8x 0.95v
    9x 0.95v
    10x 0.95v
    11x 0.95v
    12x 0.9875
    13x 1.0375v
    14x 1.0875v

    T7200 was:
    Max load temp with OCCT was 63*

    6x 0.95v
    7x 0.95v
    8x 0.95v
    9x 0.95v
    10x 0.95v
    11x 0.95v
    12x 0.975
     
  11. Rorschach

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    >.> not that bad, the cpu can handle those temps, would have gone with a extreme cpu myself so I could use throttlestop to overclock it. I would get some better thermal paste, IC7 would be much more reliable.