Would you choose a gaming notebook over a desktop?

True, they were never officially supported but it seemed only Alienware had any potential in that area (until now).

I doubt Desktops would ever go the same way, it would harm them more when you consider the high numbers of different configs and motherboards people buy. Even if they did, you will still have great boards around like my Asus Maximus vii impact

The Corsair Air 240 is a nice case and is the one most compared to the Obsidian 250D. You might be surprised at the lack of temperature limitations. The efficiency of components and die shrinks have meant a cooler and quieter system. I max out every single game I play on mine, CPU temps max out at 77C and GPU at 80-82C. If I disable turbo (reintroduces stutter in Far Cry 4) then temps remain a lot lower. Most people install a big radiator liquid cooler in mine but I have a small liquid cooler instead.

I was initially interested in buying the Clevo P750ZM but I fear that will be the last of its kind and will not make financial sense long term. The GTX 980M will last a long time but it would still be nice to have more options further down the line but if not it means buying the Clevo P750ZM would end up being limiting.

 

Was answering the thread title, lol.

 

Oh no, I was counting on you to keep hope alive for laptop gaming!

 

It looks like it's up to you now, moviemarketing. Well you and Wingnut.

 

I clearly underestimated just how much effort they would put in to alienate (no pun) a long term consumer. I was excited about the option of the Alienware Graphics Accelerator until I realised it was to make up for the useless BGA. After looking at the size of that box it made even less sense. I foresee a whole bunch of laptop gamers moving over to mini itx in the future. If some how the MXM format continues and is not replaced by BGA and laptops like the Sager NP9752 / Clevo P750ZM show they could be upgraded to newer GPU's then there might be hope.

 

Totally! Here's how much sense the Graphics Adapter makes - Go buy an older AW that has HDMI- in and build a mITX system to plug in when you want desktop power..lol. No x4 lane limitations and you've got yourself another functioning computer - Mind blown!

I probably would have gone for a newer AW with a GA if the whole deal didn't suck so much. BGA forced obsolescence crud, wimpy CPU's still bested by Sandy and Ivy and x4 crippling performance. Also have a look at some of the GA gtx 980 benchmarks, they barely pull more than a 980m.

 

Im going to desktop too. Notebookreview have "lost" many members to desktop the recent months.
The recent events from Intel and Nvidia was the final nail in the coffin for many. Plus Alienware is no longer what they used to be.

In general, yes I agree. But NotebookReview is full of enthusiasts and I think the percentage of NBR users affected is a good deal higher on say MacbookheavenSteveJobsRIPSleepWellAngelWindowsCanSuckit.com

But yeah, this is exactly why Intel, OEMs and Nvidia is going this direction. Try that crap with the desktop community and you will see hell unleashed

 

Are you going to a big Desktop or a Mini itx? I don't think I could get used to a huge system after using Laptops for so long but mini itx fits the bill.

 

Personally I still want it to feel like an upgrade from what I have now so SLI/CF and more cores is the only way forward as I see it. But it's going to suck being tethered to a desk but and if I need to ever ship home.

 

I remember lugging my Shuttle SFF PC's around in a duffle bag with a 15" LCD, keyboard, mouse, surge protector, network cable... all for my regular LAN parties back in the early 2000's. Maybe it will be time to revert back to that. Except now I don't go to LAN parties, and I really do need a laptop.

 

No desk = no desktop. I like gaming every now and then. For me it is the only choice. I can see both sides of the argument though.

 

Sure, I've been gaming on an 860m since they came out. Thought I'd miss my desktop but I've only turned it on twice in 9 months - both times to get files off.

 

Me want


http://videocardz.com/55013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-3dmark-performance

 

4-way Titan X Black editions all watercooled and 5960X at 4.8GHz pls.

I will be prepared to use two 1500W PSUs.

 

Mehh... I'm hardly impressed... I rather get 4 980's then a single GTX Titan X and I'm quite sure I'll still have enough change left to get a few more 980s... Only 8/17/20% more performance for absurd increase in price?

 

Better yet buy one 980 and then upgrade in a year or two.

 

What? The GTX Titan X score 40% more in 3DMark Extreme.

Holy crap, got to get one of them trees that grow money for that

 

Listen, bro, I never said my dreams were realistic.

 

If we are to assume the first 7427 bench is stock clocks, it's only 29% faster than the reference 980 scoring 5309. The higher score of 8627 is apples to oranges a little since the other 980 (and other GPU) benches are all done at standard clocks. Nothing to scoff at so long as the price is reasonable. I have a feeling the extra $'s won't make it a compelling buy. We'll see but I think I'll probably be going 980 sli unless AMD knock it out of the park. As much as I hate Nvidia right now, AMD need to make a card that will fit in my case - that means it needs to be on air and can't come coupled with a cooler.
It's nice to finally see some benches though.

 

Eh, using laptops this long, no matter how many positives and advantages a desktop has...

I can't stand the thought of owning a multi-thousand dollar machine that I can't put in a bag and transport easily.

 

Yeah well.. I prefer laptops to desktops too. But if I'm going to be forced to buy locked down hardware and disposable soldered junk I'd rather move to desktop.

Your Clevo P770ZM is a glimmer of hope in a industry that's quickly moving towards a place that I don't want to be. I would have liked the opportunity to grab one had it offered SLI.

Hopefully Clevo keeps on putting out quality upgradable products that cater to people who don't like changing their machines like underwear.

My gripe is there isn't enough serious DRT 's out anymore. In fact, there is only 1 to buy now - the Clevo p570wm.

 

There might be a SLI desktop-CPU using machine soon. It'll be as far of a reach as a P570WM though. Not likely to work very well under heavy loads without a second power brick.

The reason there aren't "serious DTRs" out there is because up until now, mobile chips (while expensive) were pretty bloody close to desktop chips. Hell I've seen Mr. Fox's 3920XM bench at 4.8GHz beat a 3770K at 4.8GHz with the same OS in the same bench. There wasn't a real reason to throw consumer-level desktop CPUs in mobile form factors, which is what Clevo basically did right up until mobile i7s were a thing. There is also the fact that (and I can 1000000% verify this as a D900F user for 4 years) using desktop and laptop hardware mixed together can cause large amounts of problems for programs that don't "like" the hardware mix. I've had a couple games simply not RUN because of the mix; games that worked on desktops and worked on laptops. I've had programs like Sony Vegas perform extremely oddly and badly; even on machines that were weaker. I've had all sorts of little annoyances here and there that 100% went away on my P370SM3 the minute I got it, and that never existed for large amounts of friends on desktops and laptops. My OS was set up the same. Same username, same passwords, same everything except the hardware. So believe me when I say, it's not all bells and whistles with those machines. Granted for benchmarkers and gamers it likely is not going to be much of an issue, but as someone who does a lot of things with their PC (from learning programming to debugging games to video recording, editing, streaming, gaming, antivirus brute-force testing, leaving MMO game clients open to idle for market sales while playing other games, etc) I can say that the process is much much smoother when your hardware types fully match. Maybe only 0.1% of things you'll ever use might be a problem, but when you do find something that just won't WORK no matter what you do, and it works even on other machines you own? You get annoyed in the moment and you wish you could have matching hardware.

Now however, with the TDP locked HQ chips being the only available deal, desktop CPUs have made a comeback. Hopefully those inconsistencies have been ironed out due to how similar mobile and desktop hardware is these days, but unless I grabbed a P770ZM and checked for myself, I would likely never know.

 

So 40% faster than 980

Good luck finding a power outlet for that

 

Basically, I'm going to run one long extension cord from my neighbour's wall and hope they don't notice. The other one will plug into my house.

 

I got a single GTX 980 in my Mini itx and the only game that posed as a challenge was far Cry 4 with its stuttering. However, I noticed that once the 4 Ghz CPU had Turbo Boost enabled all stuttering completely vanished which was interesting.

I don't think I will need to upgrade that GPU in a very long time and some say it is overkill for my 1920 X 1080 res as it is. I'm in the process of installing a 1tb Crucial SSD that I just removed from my P170HM, that should make everything even better!

 

This is what I'm planning on doing. Just hit me all of a sudden that less than a year ago the Titan Z (dual-GPU card) was launched for $2999, and now we have a Titan X that performs on par with the Titan Z, and it's a single GPU card. Just imagine what next year will bring when they hit a die shrink and new architecture. 1 Pascal core = 2 Maxwell cores, lol.

 

Imagine if Pascal is skipped for consumers (only hits Tesla) and Volta is the next consumer card in 2017?

 

I get 10500 with overclocked 980m sli I'll do for a bit.

 

10500 what? That's OVER 9000! (sorry couldn't resist)

 

It is! I got the achievement from futuremark (who make the same joke) and everything lol.

 

Sounds like you took top spot in invalid benches =O

 

Link? What's your 3D Mark user name too?

 

Remember I am using gpu score as that's what the chart is using

 

Ok but what is your combined score etc? Do you have a link to the bench?

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3512415

There you go

By the way the cards are back and they boot

 

If you are more comfortable using a desktop then you should stick with desktop and buy a separate laptop for portability.

 

I'm a PvP player but I don't play any of the hardcore games. So a notebook suits me fine when I'm collecting achievements in gw2 or neverwinter.