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    Would you migrate to next-gen consoles if...

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Kain, Dec 24, 2011.

  1. Kain

    Kain Notebook Evangelist

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    ...they supported mouse and keyboard?
     
  2. Baka

    Baka (・ω・)

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    Pretty sure the current gen consoles support mouse and keyboard ._.

    Baka will support it if the games are actually cheaper than they are currently though Baka will stilll love how PCs are capable of doing many other things >.>

    Portability may be an issue too. Baka does not like carrying around a big monitor around just to play games
     
  3. Steven

    Steven God Amongst Mere Mortals

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    Erm, I prefer the controller that they currently come with now.
     
  4. darxide_sorcerer

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    i like playing games with the controller. i think it's a more intuitive method of input for gaming.
     
  5. HTWingNut

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    I don't know how anyone can think using their least dextrous digit, the thumb, as tool for precision gaming, is a good idea. If consoles supported keyboard/mouse, then they would have to open up the control speed. It doesn't change the fact that movement speed is limited due to the control sticks.
     
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    ^ i was only talking about the intuitiveness of that particular input method. i am well aware of its current limitations when it comes to precision gaming. besides, one's brain will take care of a lot of those limitations by the muscle memory one will develop after using the controller for some time.
     
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    I dunno. I've been using a controller since the damn things were invented and still can't get used to it. Every time I go back to my keyboard and mouse I can't touch a gamepad again. My nephew used to troll me when we'd play games on console. Then he got a gaming capable laptop and we'd play online and he quit playing me any more because I'd own him so bad. lol.
     
  8. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    I'd hardly call the thumb the LEAST dextrous digit. I mean, come on. 3rd-5th are pretty good contenders. I might go so far as to call it 2nd *most* ?

    Anyway, there's no doubt the mouse many times better than any thumb control stick in terms of human-interface performance. I didn't buy this round of consoles, nor would I buy the next one for supporting mouse and keyboard. Heck- doesn't the PS3 support mouse and keyboard?

    The point is, consoles charge a huge percentage of sale price for all software without really offering much in return. They offer a platform which people own. That's it. Their platforms are also pretty much one trick ponies. They might have some other first party software and a VERY SMALL amount of third party software which can run on the consoles, but they just do games.

    Compare that to more modern platforms like mobiles from Apple and Google, which also give the devs a similar percentage, but they offer SO MUCH MORE. It's a way better deal for developers. (for a similar cut, they also handle all sales and digital storefront, etc) Sony and MoneySoft don't give software developers nearly as good of an environment to develop and sell software- and hence we get a lot of junk from big publishing firms, and very little creative work. Meanwhile, these devices are getting very competent in terms of games and other software as well.

    The games for these devices are still fun for everyone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTk-DyBjXlQ&feature=related
     
  9. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Two teams, playing battlefield 3 , half on pc`s and half on consoles , I wonder who would win.
     
  10. Audi4ever

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    I would deffently buy next gen console, keyboard or not
     
  11. HTWingNut

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    Consoles have their place, absolutely. I just think they're two different beasts. I own PS2, PS3, XBox 360. I have them to play a handful of titles that you can't get on PC, but they are used largely as media streaming devices. Heck even now I don't use them for that because there are so many incompatibilities and issues.

    I will probably own one of the next gen consoles, most likely Microsoft because I like what they're doing with Kinect.
     
  12. key001

    key001 Notebook Evangelist

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    I already have a console when I press ~
     
  13. darxide_sorcerer

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    the PC people will win hands down. and it's because a mouse is much more precise than a controller. but that was not my point at all. i was only talking about the fact that for me, the controller is a more intuitive, easier method of inputting commands into a machine. when i play Battlefield 3 on my laptop, i only use the controller to run around, but when it comes to shooting enemies, i use the mouse. so i know the limitations of the current generation of controller and the benefits of using the mouse, but that was not my point.
     
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    Touche, good sir!

    As for mouse vs controller, it's been pretty much proven that mice are superior input devices for FPS. Think shadowrun, where they nerfed the PC input and the console players were still destroyed.

    Both the 360 and PS3 have support for M/K, however in the 360 tc's it's written that no games can use them, and the PS3 just has limited support for various reasons. What I always wanted to do was to find out the protocol the controllers use is, and then emulate it through a microcontroller so I can make M/K appear as a controller. What fun I'd have!
     
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    My prediction is the integration of Console and PC gamers. STEAM on PS3 is a good example.
     
  16. AndrewCP

    AndrewCP Notebook Consultant

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    Hardware would still be outdated compared to PCs and visually look worse
     
  17. funky monk

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    If they still have controllers then it'll never go down well. I can understand integration in the sense that you have one account across all platforms (whether that's good or not is a matter of opinion), however cross platform play will never work when there are inherant advantages on one platform over the other.
     
  18. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    could work with matchmaking.

    I think counter strike global offensive will be cross platform ps3 / pc. It should be fine. The PS3 will still be a viable platform for that game because it should support mouse input for people who want to be competitive. For people who don't care, they can use whatever input device they want and be ranked accordingly. Similarly, players on the PC will be ranked according to skill, and it will be based on how competitive they want to be. Some PC players may elect to play with a joystick- who knows? If they want to, they can, and matchmaking should smooth the situation over.
     
  19. reaversedge

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    no thanks, i would stick to my rig, primarily with the reason that i never owned any console. its game on the go for my case.
     
  20. PatchySan

    PatchySan Om Noms Kit Kat

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    I buy a next gen console if it has the games I want to play, there's no point buying one if the games catalogue doesn't interests me at all.
     
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    What I really want is a topic that recently came up - PC gamers being able to play with consoles, considering most of my friends don't game on PCs.
     
  22. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    The current generations already supports mouse and keyboard... but no one supports mouse and keyboard.

    The problem is, is that no one will support m/kb in their games because people who play on consoles do so because they hate m/kb's.

    So, to sum up: future consoles will not support mouse and keyboards.
     
  23. Steven

    Steven God Amongst Mere Mortals

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    Forgot about this, it's true.