X700 Memory Problem...

Hi guys,

I already read all the Chaz's comparison chart of GPU and here's what I want to ask..

I got info that the X700 with 64mb dedicated just got a low 1476 3dmark05 score, while x700 with 128mb dedicated got 2600score, is this info correct? Because, I think both of them are helped by hypermemory tech rite? become 256mb? but why is the difference almost twice? Will it have a big effect on gaming? bcoz I'll be gaming a lot, such as Battlefield 2, etc.

I'm looking between Asus A6va (with x700 128) for 1300$ or A6v( with x700 64mb) 937$. As u can see, the price diff is a lot! Ofcourse, I just got Combo and not DVD Rw with A6v, but it is a lot cheaper...

By the way, I'm not filling the What should I buy FAQ coz Im just asking for the diff between these 2 cards.

Thanks a lot , and sorry with my english.... hope u all can understand it...

 

for the price, i think the A6v with 64 dedicated is better, but i dont think the X700 has hypermemory.

 

The point of dedicated MB vs. Hypermemory has been discussed extensively. Having 128mb vs 64mb provides a dramatic improvement - hypermemory requires the use of shuffling the mem, hence info, between the onboard and shared, which slows down your game experience. As you can tell, the 3DMark05 score is almost doubled between the 64 and the 128 - if I can afford the extra 300+ I would go with the 128mb and you'll be glad you did

 

The thing is the 64mb version has a 64bit memory interface so it will not run as well as a normal x700 with 128mb of ram and 128bit memory interface.

Doesn't have do with the amount of vram, but of course 64mb will bog things down regardless of the memory interface.

x700 does use hypermemory as you will see it reports 256mb of vram for 128mb versions of this card.

Cheers,
Mike

 

Thanks for replying guys !
So, you mean the score is correct? That 64mb and 128mb diff that much diff (almost twice)?

Thanks a lot, you guys are great! Really helped me a lot in deciding, a lot much better than those salesman here that keeps on telling me that there wont be any noticable diff in gaming between those 2 cards. Lol

 

Actually, the X700 64MB has a 128-bit memory interface.

To the original poster - I highly recommend getting the 128MB version of the GPU - 64MB are very limited, video memory is a big bottleneck in the latest games. I had a 64MB video card in my last two notebooks, and moving up to even a 128MB card is a huge difference in performance. For all gaming purposes, stick to 128MB or greater of video memory, don't even bother with the 64MB cards.

 

That's most likely not right.

My X600 with 64mb got around 1500 the last time I checked. It was tested using a 1.73 GHz Sonoma.

 

Thanks for replying Chaz,
So... Chaz... I've been reading your comparison chart, and I think it is great! I just have 2 question , since you said:

"An X700/Go6600 can run FEAR at high settings at 800x600"

1.does it mean that IF I buy the one X700 with ONLY 64mb I can still play FEAR at high setting at 800x600 or maybe medium quality on higher resolution?

2.If your answer for the number 1 question is "No, it wont be playable", can I expand my original system memory (just 1x256) to 1 gig (2x512mb) and expect it to be playable?

I know that I maybe better off with higher ends gpus, I'm looking at Asus' A8jm/A8ja (geforce7600 and atix1600) too, but this one cost almost half of them. I even maybe able to get it here in China for just about $850, quite a sweet deal While a8jm/a gonna cost me about $1600

Thanks.

 

Really? Cool. Do you know how much x700 with 64mb should get in 3dmark05? I think 1476 is also too low(even lower than your x600 ), but that's the only info I got, does anybody know?

This is the info I have on some ATI's card

X200 128mb (shared ram) 500-600
X300 64mb 600-850
X300 128mb 1200-1400
X600 128mb 1100-1700
X600 64mb 1000-1200
X700 64mb 1476
X700 128mb 1900-2600
X700 256mb 2700-2800
X800 256mb 3300-3900
X1400 256mb dedicated + 256 shared 1600-2300
X1600 256mb 3700-4100

as you can see, it also states that your x600 should've got about 1200. Did you overclocked your GPU?

Thanks.

TJUN

 

I scored a 1650 or something on 3dmark05 on my 64MB x700. That was with the original drivers and stuff still running in the background. If I get a chance this weekend, I'll run it again and see what it scores.

 

Thanks tullnd... by the way, do you have any experience with gaming? How bout FEAR? or any other games? How was it?

 

I played FEAR on a 64MB MRX700 - it only lets you run at the bare minimum because of the 64MB of VRAM - that means 640x480, no changes to settings. You can change a few things to medium, but the game looks terrible.

The X700 is a powerful card, but the 64MB of VRAM is going to cap its 3DMark score at some point (sounds like about 1,500).

If you're planning to play games, don't get a 64MB card.

 

OK, I take that back.

Just tested my wife's BenQ Joybook S72 that comes equipped with an ATi X600 w/64mb. Although 3dmark05 claimed it has 128mb local memory, I believe the manufacturer more - vendors usually over exaggerate, not under exaggerate.



...and the score:

 

LOL Thanks a lot for clearing that up, iTwins. really appreciate that. Looks like I'm not gonna choose for x700 with 64mb anymore, it's just too low. And Thanks too for Chazman and all of you here for helping me up. This is a really really great forum.

 

For the record, the BattleField 2 Demo barely runs on my X700 w/128 MB of dedicated memory with the graphics detail set at medium/above medium settings.

Also, my HP V4000T laptop has a SoundMax sound card which DOES NOT support hardware accelerated Voice over IP. You will have to go into the dxdiag and set the sound hardware acceleration to "low/off".. Which will totally give you choppy and ****py sound.. But your VOIP should work..
Make sure your Sound Card is supported!! Its very important. Even if you don't plan on using VOIP now, you might want to in the future. Trust me, Squad based VOIP in BattleField 2 is awesome.. Too bad I can't get it to work with good quality sound (it automatically disables it cause my sound card can't handle it).

Best of luck to you..
-I got the graphics, I got the RAM, I got the CPU, but I don't got the sound card!

2.0 Ghz Pentium M
512 MB DDR2 RAM
Intel SoundMax Soundcard (****py!!)

 

Thanks for the info on bf2 Sidicas...

By the way, I have one last question ... Chazman, you said that 64mb is X700's bottleneck, rite? x700 wont be able to use all of it's power. So does it mean X700 with 64mb will generate less heat and use less battery compared to 128mb one? Can I expect lower heat and more battery life?

Thanks,

TJUN