Xbox One vs PS4 vs Mobile GPUs

They don´t do any, that is something everybody says, but truth is that if you compare benchmarks of the 860m/750 ti to a PS4 at the same quality of PS4 (most times high), the 860m performs equal or better, numbers dont lie

 

Well, I think they get around DX, so that's something. But on the PC side, you can OC an 860m like crazy..

 

Stock 980M = 3.46TFlops

2 x PS4's = 3.68TFlops

With a 980M, you only need to overclock by a modest amount to reach the raw power of two PS4's

I am looking forward to my new laptop, building the hype up

 

Cake, you are going to get 2 laptops, before I get a single one! This is not fair

 

That would be if you could compare Gflops 1:1 between diferent architectures, which you can´t

 

Not yet, but give it a couple of years....XD

 

ps4 and xbox one run ultra settings on ports

 

You smoking the devil's lettuce?

 

i read that dragon age is on medium settings compared to pc version and far cry 4 on high settings on consoles

 

though they're both at 1080p30...where as i am trying to get it to run at 60....only FC4 seems to hold closer to 60 but i have to run it at 900p just to make it possible so FC4 is badly optimized.

 

Proof, please.

 

It's in here:

 

I just played the first mission of COD: Advanced Warfare on XBOX One and it looked great. YouTube videos don't do it justice.

I'm impressed with the XBOX One thus far. I definitely did not expect it to look that good considering all of the hate in this thread and all over the web. I was actually prepared to return it... Now? Not so much. Although, I am playing on a $2k TV. So, that may be why it looks so good. Who knows...

 

that's cos Sledgehammer put some effort in...unlike IW!

 

The only time Xbox 1 and PS4 run "ultra" on ports is when they decide to build a game for the console and not produce any better graphics for PC. Which even then is rare.

They run usually on "high".

 

oic ok..

btw guys i bought a gmaing laptop...havent used my xbox since...im a pure hardcore pc gamer 4life

 

well I love my xbox one and will never give it up...\I just love mods and the backwards compatibility of pcs, xbox one ftw and pc ftw...one year ago id have punched myself for even thinking of getting a console but honestly they are impressive so if you dont have one ask santa..and dont tell me santas not real..i saw him at the mall

 

Behave people i'm watching you.

I have a ps4 and i do enjoy console gaming as well. Sure consoles are not ultra powerhouses but personally ps3 was getting on my nerves on how slow it did everything. I am happy with ps4 so far.

 

I always behave, because:
Blast, I lost the picture. I should have saved it locally. NUUUUUU

Edit: Because I lost that picture, I have opted to add another picture that describes my situation both perfectly and funnily.

 

Though PS3 was amazing when it came out, these consoles, the day they came out, they were already behind PCs in terms of graphics.. I am sad that there are some kickass exclusives that I won't be able to play though (I think The Order 1886 will be a good one)

 

I'm somewhat on the other side of the picture. My internet is symmetrical 200mb but i am waiting for the GT80 titan to come out

 

Technically ps3 was behind too when it came out by virtue of being late. Gtx8800 was quite the performer.

These consoles offer still great value though. And yeah i am keeping an eye out for The Order 1886.

I think people had unrealistic expectations of these consoles. They did cheap out on the CPU more than the GPU but they will be fine. More importantly, they will raise the bar for the bare minimum so we will get even more impressive PC games.

 

The Xbox 360 was impressive at launch. The PS3 when it came out a year later with a weaker GPU was not. Plus the beastly 8800 GTX beat PS3 to market as ryzeki said.

 

Haha my net is 20/2 and my minimum ping is about 95 on a good day for any games. This costs me $300/mo (~$45 USD).

The unrealistic expectations are still rampant. The marketing is still calling everything "next gen" and everything was hyped up (AND I MEAN EVERYTHING) to be 1080p 60fps before launch, then on launch everyone's making excuses about why it doesn't matter. Only the PC crowd gets it and says anything, and all the people who refuse to try PC gaming just say we're too entitled or fruitlessly bashing a well-performing $400 system. It's marketing and stupid publisher moves that are doing this; they want to match current-gen PC graphics on basically GTX 570 + Core 2 Quad machines, and while they're getting a ridiculous amount of performance out of them, PC products have to be gimped and/or are left unoptimized so you need 3x the hardware for a similar experience most of the time. The graphics they're targeting is the reason they can't hit 1080/60. And also, they're using silly tricks for it too. Like 960 x 1080p resolution or 1362 x 1080p resolution or whatever. Add a little blur; console users who played 720p or less games on 720p or 1080p TVs think the blur is how games are supposed to look (I've asked many of them) and thus don't notice anything out of place.

As far as being gaming/entertainment machines though, they are quite good value. Won't deny that. But I wish people would stop this silly next-gen thing. And I wish people who have a loud voice would research what they say when comparing it to PC tech. Boogie tweeted to like 140,000 followers that his GTX 670 he was upgrading was slightly stronger than a Xbox 1.... I nearly ripped my hair out at the number of ignorant people who will now believe that is fact. And I do actually mean ignorant, not stupid or anything derogatory.

 

We don't need to fight, yet again, on a silly consoles vs pc subject. Everyone chill

 

I was thinking in terms of graphics fidelity, for example the impact of games like Assassin's Creed and Modern Warfare, it was seriously next-gen back in the time, the graphics were off the hook.. Compare it to this generation, Last of Us looked just as good on PS3 than any PS4 title so far.. until its remastered version released for PS4, still no game on PS4 looks as beautiful imho... We still didn't get the "next-gen" effect on any game so far...

 

I agree. It's not even worthwhile comparing the two for purposes of a which one is better. I had a 2600 when I was a kid, but I was a PC only gamer since until the PS2 came out, had to have MGS2. I like both equally since then and they serve different purposes in my gaming hobby. There's no reason for the fight.

 

Not really the case with Pro Evolution Soccer 2015. I don't know if people here play this genre. But compared to PS4 version, PC has:

1. No entrance scene
2. Worse LOD such as on grass
3. Worse crowd model

No.1 did exist and No.2 was better in PES 2014. Can you imagine ? lol.

 

That's because they gimped the PC version on purpose. PC is ported from last-gen not current-gen consoles. EA Sports games are the same way.

 

Wouldn't it be shoddy porting and laziness rather than gimping on purpose, god know we've seen a ton of shoddy porting in the past and will continue to see. Anyways, PC hardware will always offer more performance than consoles simply because of the faster upgrade cycle. You don't buy a console to play the latest and greatest games with as much eye candy as possible imo. You buy a console because you know you won't have to upgrade the hardware to play new games coming out at settings that look good without having all the shinies on and also for gaming from the comfort of your couch. The latter is changing though, gaming on PC from your couch with a controller is definitely getting easier than it was.

 

Do people here feel threatened by PS4/Xbox?

 

Nope. At best, they like the current gen and how it is slowly shaping up to be. At worst, they hate it with a passion because they get bad ports from time to time from their favorite franchises.

 

It could be shoddy porting/laziness, sure, but I can definitely tell you that sometimes PC gets gimped on purpose. Ubisoft is the main culprit of that, though.

 

Not as much as I feel threatened by Maxwell GPUs! It has been 2 months already, where are Clevo and Gigabyte with their models?! Only MSI and Asus seem to be doing a good job meeting the demand...

 

It's probably cheaper for them to port the last-gen console version to PC instead of the current-gen one. I doubt there's much of any audience for these sports games on PC, at least compared to on consoles.

 

isnt the trend make for console port to pc.

ps4 is great and will be running games at 1080p 30/60fps in the near future as was with farcry 4

I own farcry 4 for both platforms and honestly the colors look better on xboxone and is definitely high or ultra settings, all i noticed vs the pc version was it stutters and looks nearly identical to the xbox one version. expensive though at 69.99 cad.

I honestly don't think people that game on pc are threatened i think they are just a bit jealous of the fact a 400 dollar console matches their 2500 dollar laptop. i say that because i have both and feel like returning my laptop so i can buy more games for my xbox. but this laptop is used for my small business so i dont have much choice, i just wish it was a 850m and not a 840m and the screen resolution is only 768p which sucks but allows for maxed gaming on this incrediblely outdated card

 

Not even close, they match 800 dollar ones (850m ddr3 and 860m) but a 970m or 980m smokes them completely

About the second thing, is what i have spoke of hundreds of times, a 850m with a 768p would mean enough power to match Xbox One through all the generation. Unfortunately there are only a couple of models with that config (Asus K550JK for example) and they don't want to do a decent 768p screen, how awesome would be a 768p or 900 IPS screen, would give you great quality and make the GPU perform better

 

Does he sound like a broken record? Or is it just me?

 

Tell me when consoles can run games with res higher than 1080p or 1080p with more than 1xAA
There are several games comparisons I have seen where games on Xbox One have way less details than PC. Less grass, less objects, less shadows, worse colours etc.

 

im done here... can someone redirect me to a forum on here perhaps off topic where you dont get attack for having an opinion

 

Who attacked you?
I just quoted your post where you claimed Xbox One is equally good as a $2500 notebook.

Witcher 3 have no MSAA for Xbox One and it runs at 900p. MSI GT72 with 980M will be able to do 1080p and MSAA
Ryse runs 900p with no MSAA on Xbox. 980M can do 1080p and MSAA
Titanfall, 792p + 2xMSAA. 980M, 4xMSAA++ and 1080p easily.

etc etc

 

Do you need a 2500 laptop for your small business? Maybe you can get something cheaper as a compromise. There's nothing WRONG with console gaming as long as you're having fun playing the games.

 

*You* are the person attacking by calling us jealous, if only i had the time i would find all of your posts with the same sentence (probably hundreds of them).. Nothing wrong with console gaming, i defended consoles a month ago to everyone else, but you keep repeating we are "jealous" of console gaming.. Geez.. Just get to the off topic forum already for the sake of everyone.

 

Everyone, I don't want to close the topic yet, for we can actually have a good discussion, but stop devolving the topic into fights.

 

Nope, not for current gen multiplats. This time around, it's reversed. PC is the lead platform, current gen consoles are the porting target. Especially this early in the console lifecycle when devs haven't had access to finalized console hardware for very long, and as we all know, AAA games take at least 2-3 years if not longer to make. Here is an in-depth look at what was done to port The Crew to PS4: How The Crew was ported to PlayStation 4 • Eurogamer.net

 

I thought you were on a disability pension?.. now you're running a business?? Poor tax payers

Regardless, a $2500 laptop wipes the floor with the consoles. I'm not convinced you're spent your money wisely if a you wasted $2500 on a laptop that can be outdone but the consoles.

 

i don't get it, why ppl need to make comparisons between consoles/pc gpus when it's totally irrelevant.
Architecture for console gpu have been heavily modified, specialy on gpu compute : 20gb/s bus that bypasses L1 and L2 to allow direct acces to system memory, adding volatile big tag on L2 wich allow simultaneous graphical and asynchronous compute tasks, upgrade from 2 to 64 sources for compute commands ( better compute parallelism and execution priority control ).
None of this is present in our PC GCN gpus. Those "mods" even match or outperform high end gpus.

Sure, 970/980 destroy in term of rawpower ps4 gpu. But optimisation and metal coding will close some serious gap ( no drawcalls is a HUGE improvement ).
Let's see what naughty dogs/santa monica will show us.

I'm a huge PC gaming fanboy. But it isn't worth pooping on console gpus. ( well you can poop on X1 gpu, it's allowed ).

 

And i suppose that is why this happens, a 260x which is a worse GPU that the one on PS4 matching it

 

im allowed to work, why would you not encourage that??? i think xbox one has impressive graphics considering the above facts, thats just what i think based on what i see...