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    Your GPU silicon quality. GPU-Z ASIC Test

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Mobius 1, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. LTBonham

    LTBonham Notebook Evangelist

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    HP Envy 17 3200 CTO - Radeon HD 7850m - 72.5%

    She performs pretty dang well. Can OC from 650mhz core to 800mhz before instability starts. I can game at that level for hours without issue. Any higher though and trouble starts.

    Edit - has anyone noticed any real world correlation between this percentage and performance or temps? I was surprised to see my low number, but even with it being low, my temps are 72 with an OC and 70 without. Maybe I would have more OC headroom with a higher percentage?
     
  2. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    100% for a 650M is pretty common. Very rarely we see 98 and a bit below it



    75% is standard and is considered OK :thumbsup:




    Need verification


    Need verification /:

    The OC limit isn't just the temp, it's also voltage related. You probably don't have enough vcore to push it beyond 800MHz
     
  3. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    Here's my 7970M verification

    steberg.png

    I'll upload the GT650M later!

    Great thread! +rep
     
  4. Zymphad

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    This is complete BS. My ASIC score for 7970M is higher than most who posted here yet my 7970M becomes very unstable for overclocking quickly. This is not a indication of overclocking ability or quality. Seems like it's rubbish to me.
     
  5. Prasad

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    You implying it's a random number generator? :D
     
  6. Zymphad

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    Might as well be, I'm saying, who cares. This is like one of the mods said, just another thing for benchmark dummies to fight over on the net.
     
  7. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

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    It doesnt mean anything the asic test.
    for example mine 7970m is at 73%,and i can oc like hell with stock volt(1.05) :)
     
  8. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    I concur.

    Yes, mine having an ASIC quality of 75% overclocks very well thus far! :)
     
  9. imglidinhere

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    The ASIC quality doesn't automatically mean it can OC better. This debate has been going on for a while over at Overclock.net. I mean, it's a nice basis for things but it doesn't mean much until it's put to the test. Also note that the Nvidia cards are more accurate between each score/overclock.
     
  10. Cloudfire

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    Until they all explode in to thousand pieces after a year... :p
     
  11. iVantage

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    CyberPowerPC Xplorer X1M (Clevo W110ER) GT650M 2048MB DDR3 - 82.3%

    Core OC's well, just that the memory seems to be holding it back from greatness.

    ASIC test.JPG
     

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  12. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Good thing I can buy two equivalent AMDs in the price of one nVidia then! :D
     
  13. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Good point :p
     
  14. crosslimit

    crosslimit Notebook Evangelist

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    I have 100% with my 680m, is that anything special?
     
  15. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Not really, most 680m GPUs seem to all be around that value, though you can't really say anything by it.
    This GPUz ASIC test doesn't seem reliable.

    Just overclock it (or undervolt) and see what you get, that's the best way to see if you have a golden sample.
     
  16. myx

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    My 7970 is @ 74.1% and I can't OC crap. Still investigating the issue as to whether is the PSU giving me a hard time or just a bad card.
     
  17. moral hazard

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    Check the voltage of the card with hwinfo.

    Also make sure the card is running 3d clocks when you overclock, set UnofficialOverclockingMode = 2 in afterburner.
     
  18. myx

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    I did that. As I mentioned in the MSI area, I get horrible screen tearing after setting clocks be it with 10 mhz plus or minus. After I set the clocks , whenever I move the mouse, the screen tears. (either on core or memory clocks). I am using msi 2.2.4 with atipdlxx.dll from 2.2.1 version and tried with 1 or 2 in cfg file.

    When setting new clocks the voltage goes to 0.9. With regular clocks the voltages goes between 0.825 min and 1v max.
     
  19. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Actually I remember that happening to me when I first got my 7970m, I don't remember what I did to fix it.
    But there should be a solution.

    Did you clean install the latest driver?
     
  20. myx

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    Well I did just that. Reinstalled last beta driver 12.9 and reinstalled msi after burner. Now I lost the screen tearing, which is good. But the card will not oc past 900/1300. Any higher clock will reset the driver and crash 3dmark. I am using cfg method 2.

    Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
     
  21. moral hazard

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    Well I'm a bit scared to install a differrent bios atm, couse I'm running a Dell 7970m in an MSI and am not sure if it's gonna boot with other bios installed.

    I tried the -xcl mod from that link, it activated the overdrive function in CCC but no way to control voltages - not in Afterburner nor in CCC.
    I'm guessing I need to take off the -xcl part after first time, as every time I run MSI AB with that switch it tells me to restart.
     
  23. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ahh, I think after you enable overdrive you have to manually mod an xml file or something to change the voltage.

    It wont be through the GUI.

    It's a bit of a hack.
     
  24. myx

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  25. moral hazard

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    Great to see!

    Now I'm off to try and brick my notebook with an intel ME firmware flash.

    EDIT: Didn't turn into a brick :), nothing else to report.
     
  26. steberg

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    ^ By any chance was it the P150HM you just did the ME firmware update on?
     
  27. Mobius 1

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    Added
     
  28. moral hazard

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  29. johnnyman27

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    which version of MSI AB u have?u need the 2.2.1 version.after this u enable the overdrive in CCC with -xcl mod and just follow this guide to control the voltage!!

    Afterburner 5870 2D clocks

    just change the voltage only in profile settings not the clocks!!
     
  30. myx

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    Thank you johnny, that's exactly what I did and it's all working now. the voltage line in the xml files is like 2-3 rows below the frequency lines.
     
  31. johnnyman27

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    im glad that it worked!!!well done!! :thumbsup:
     
  32. trvelbug

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    So right now these are just numbers that mean absolutely nothing right?

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
     
  33. LTBonham

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    Seems like it to me, but I have not really looked into it much.
     
  34. JaccoW

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    Here is a Gt640m LE.
    [​IMG]
    GPU-Z Silicon Quality.png

    EDIT:
    [GT 640M LE 2GB ddr3, Keppler, Sony Vaio S13P, [vbios], PCI-E 2.0 x16 @ x8 2.0, ASIC 94.6%]

    OC courtesy of SVL7 and Amal77, their Bios mod and Sony's headroom in cooling. :D
    (The GT640M LE would normally run at 500Mhz)
     
  35. LTBonham

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    That is a truly amazing OC there. + rep
     
  36. sangemaru

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    Holy 100% oc
     
  37. RainMan_

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    I think you should hack the driver and change the GPU name to NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M. Amazing OC there.
     
  38. DaCM

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    With GPU-Z's newest version I'm actually getting a (probably) correct, non-100% reading, so people with 100% GT 650M's and GTX 660M's might want to recheck their results. Here's mine:

    [​IMG]
     
  39. Grantelb4rt

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    My 7970 Ghz-Edition GPU seems to have a extremely low silicon quality. GPU-Z says it has a ASIC quality of 57.4% :err:
    My Card does 1200 Mhz with the standard Voltage, which is pretty high for that GPU (1.175V)
    I don`t know what to think about that result but I am pretty disappointed, because I bought one of the most expensive 7970s which is on the market right know (Sapphire 7970 Ghz-Edition 3GB).
    I mean that card runs pretty cool (never got more than 67°C) and performance quiet well.
    What I also noticed was that very much Nvidias (especially the high end ones) get 90% and more... I saw no card below 85% from Nvidia.
    How is that possible? I mean every vendor has one or two silicons that are 'bad' pretty wierd that Nvidia seems to have a Production without mistakes.
    Until now I saw no AMD 7970 or 7950 above 80%.
    If anyone knows: How is the score calcuated?

    Here is the Pic of GPU-Z:

    GPU-Z ASIC quality.JPG
     
  40. moral hazard

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    This is the problem, they don't make clear how they calculate it but it's not very accurate at all.

    Maybe you can use it to compare identical GPUs since they will have the same calculation, but you can't use that score to compare nvidia and AMD.
     
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    First time checking it out. I think I lost the GPU lottery. The 680Ms I have seen have been around 100% :p

    [​IMG]
     
  42. failwheeldrive

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    Holy crap, I just checked nine yesterday for the first time and they are both 72.4% too! I'm pretty sure the early readings were wrong though, and gpu-z is just now reading Kepler cards correctly. My cards aren't amazing or anything, but they oc pretty well. I still haven't read a real explanation of this test.

    edit: nvm, they're 72.1%. Consider yourself lucky :p
     
  43. Sonicfury

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    Prepare to get your %80+ 650m mind blown :p Way lower then the rest. Using the W110er UOV prema bios from the start so cant tell the default voltage. As you can see i have set the card to max clock where it will run 3dmark11. Core wont clock any higher because it seems to be limited. No matter how high i set it it wont go past 1215. Memory will error if clocked higher. I dont know how well the clocks are compared to others but im happy with them. Temperatures are around 80 degrees running the fur benchmark.

    [​IMG]

    ASIC.jpg
     
  44. Cloudfire

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    The higher voltage you have, the less ASIC % you will have. So if your VBIOS is with overvolting, it might not tell the truth :)

    [​IMG]



    @failwheel: Why we get crappy ASIC rating while the other ones get around 100%? Unfair :p
    Have you tried overclocking them?
     
  45. killkenny1

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    Those >100% results don't make sense in my head. How can something be more real than real. I mean 100% is already the max, and then you have like 105%. Does that it make ultra real?
     
  46. Cloudfire

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    I have no idea. The software is probably not as accurate as one might think
     
  47. Blauwhelmpje

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    [​IMG]

    It's something :)

    ps: stock voltage + unlocked oc options bios..

    (also disabling 135/600 overclock does not change anything)
     

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    Hmmm, thanks Blau. Seems like failwheeldrive was correct that the early 680M readings was wrong then. Made me feel a little better :)
     
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    Screenshot (2).png Is it possible the low score is because the GK104 is used for the 670mx because of low yields and a GK106 would have a higher quality because its the full chip? Does this make any sense?
     
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    I think I win with my daunting, fear-inducing 66% on my 680m.
     
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