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    are there any other mxm video cards besides the 6600 and 6800

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by londez, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. londez

    londez Notebook Evangelist

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    Just wondering if i'll ever be able to upgrade my go6800 to something better.
     
  2. TwilightVampire

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    Pleanty. But you cant upgrade a laptops graphics card.
     
  3. londez

    londez Notebook Evangelist

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    You obviously don't what what mxm is. mxm is a type of modular video card that can be upgraded (or at least you will be able to upgrade it if nvidia or ati release anymore mxm cards). If you have an mxm card, you can fit a different mxm card into your laptop as long as you're computer can accept that card's module type (there are type I, type II and type III mxm slots)

    I just wanted to know if nvidia has released any other mxm cards or if the 6600 and 6800 (which i have in my z81sp) are still the only mxm vid cards.
     
  4. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    um theres a link on mxm cards somewhere
    it is mostly marketing bs

    theres a site that lists the mxm card types and also the ones in laptops.

    its complicated.
    I do believe if you have a 6800 already you have a type 3 card. There are no better ttype 3 cards available at the site

    if you have a type 2 you could buy a x700 or a 6600

    the graphics cards are in general not for sale anywhere.

    the most upgradeable laptops are dells because you can actually buy graphics cards from dell and upgrade some models. they are more upgradeable than mxm laptops because the graphics cards are for sale.

    so in general mxm means " cant upgrade graphics card ever" if you want a short list of gpu upgrades from where u bought in, in general get a dell e1705 or xps 1710
     
  5. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The Go6800 is a Type III card, correct.

    MXM is more of a technology for manufacturers to take advantage of - instead of having to use a different motherboard, etc, they can now just swap in new cards with very little effort and no major reworking of the laptop and its design.
    There are MXM Go7800GTX's and such, but you can only find them in laptops, not in an online store. The Clevo M590K I believe uses MXM, that has 2 x Go7800GTX.

    Chaz
     
  6. londez

    londez Notebook Evangelist

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    do u think that clevo resellers keep any spare 7800's in stock and if so do u think that there's any way that I could persuade them to sell me one?
     
  7. TwilightVampire

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    Sir, I do know what an MXM graphics card is. In theroy you could use it to upgrade a laptops graphics, but it just doesnt work that way. There are too many variables for laptops, like size, heat, bios restrictions, and power. Hense it wont work.

    It would be nice to use it that way, and maybe one day we will, but for now it doesnt work that way. It just means if our video cards go bad they dont have to replace the whole motherboard to fix it.
     
  8. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    yes well sager will upgrade it for like 600. thats how they handle it.

    Im almost sure they never mail you a card. Dell does though. thats the difference really.

    I mean if it were a matter of velcrow removal to change the gpu, if you cant buy them what good is it?

    last but not least, I have heard that in clevos the mxm is false advertising. only clevos propierty cards work in the clevo laptops.
     
  9. -Tomy-

    -Tomy- Notebook Geek

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    The idea of MXM is to upgrade the video card. The heat, power and size issues are overcome because each card falls into a class, 1,2, or 3, which will govern the power, heat and size requirments, thus allowing an upgrade.
     
  10. Knifes

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    If you really don't believe, just watch the vid in the side bar and/or also read Nvida's description.
    http://www.nvidia.com/page/mxm.html
     
  11. TwilightVampire

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    I know in theroy what its supposed to be used for, but it just doesnt really work right now. Of course NVIDIA, the INVENTOR of MXM will say it works, just so they can get you to buy it, even if it doesnt work in practice. Just because they fit, doesnt mean the system will post and everything works right.

    I know you can upgrade certain Dell models but first you need to flash the bios and replace the power supply. And on Sagers, it requires a whole new motherboard. Not practical.

    I'm not saying it wont be practical eventually. It just isnt feasable today.
     
  12. Dexeaur

    Dexeaur Notebook Enthusiast

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    Damit, and i thought there was a chance for me to upgrade my Toshiba M40's Geforce 6600 to a 7600/8600 (future)....Want to play Oblivion at 1280x800 with everything in it...
     
  13. TwilightVampire

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    Trust me, we all hope! I'm desperately hoping clevo will put the x1600 into the m560 chassis.
     
  14. stamar

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    there is a chance.

    however note that since the 6 series the 7 series has come out and you cant buy any mxm versions anywhere.


    there is a site you should search for made by a forum member that compiled the mxm laptops, and it actually has 2 for sale, a 6600 and x700 for type 2 mind you.
     
  15. stamar

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    here we go this is the link im looking for

    http://www.mxm-upgrade.com/store.html

    2 mxm laptops gpus for sale.

    6600 and 6800.

    ok well the next step you need is to have the bios recognize a new card.

    the thing is, toshiba will never release a bios thats compatible with your model, and with the new gpu youre looking for. why would they, theyre not selling your model with a 8600 gpu? If they did, well then you need to flash to that updated bios.
    You see by the time the 8600 gput comes out, all the other components of laptops will be different than yours, so the bios wont be compatible.
    You can hope that your model is so popular that a computer geek somewhere wrote the bios code to recognize the new gpu.

    This has happened.

    In reality? Never. Possible but never. If you got the highest gpu available for your model, youre never going to upgrade.
    If you got a model with a upgradeable gpu, and you got the lower gpu available : possible.
     
  16. Ice-Tea

    Ice-Tea MXM Guru NBR Reviewer

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    AFAIK, no Bios upgrade is needed as the vBios is on the card, not in the sBios. I guess some manu's can 'protect' (ie screw the costumer over) their notebook from upgradeing, but I haven't seen anything like it (yet).

    Toshiba is a bit strange with MXM. Check this page for more on that.