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    demigod...

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Diablo, Apr 14, 2009.

  1. Diablo

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    anybody pick it up yet?
     
  2. be77solo

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    almost did earlier, was wondering how it was... was excited about it a while back.
     
  3. GamingACU

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    It's in the mail right now.
     
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    no reviews yet, totally forgot about this!
     
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    yeah, was in gamestop earlier and almost snagged a copy, but didn't...

    Now, was seeing about downloading a digital copy, and can't even get the page to load ha, must be busy!

    EDIT: anybody have any experience with Impulse? Never tried it, always been a Steam man, but pondering trying it w/ Demigod
     
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    It does look tempting to get it o.o I've seen a few reviews and so far, it's good. I'm probably gonna nudge a friend of mine to buy it and test it first before buying it myself :p
     
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    ok, went ahead and gave it a shot, will be downloading soon.... hope it's good!

    Wanted to try out Impulse as well... will be my first experience with it.
     
  8. BHD

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    be sure to let us know how it goes :)
     
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    I'm curious as well, it seems like a strange hybrid of a game but it's got people with solid reputations behind it so it should have some gameplay in it.
     
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    Impulse is pretty good. It's similar to Steam, except it gives you the option to update your game, and you can download and run the games independently of being online.

    I want to get Demigod too. I wish there was a demo, but I'll wait for the reviews to come it. It's $40 on Impulse or $50 for boxed.

    Initial user reviews on Gamespot are less then compelling though. Sounds like it is a one trick pony that is neat at first but quickly loses its appeal.
     
  11. Diablo

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    gamestop has it for 39.99
    [​IMG]
     
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    so does Amazon
     
  14. saincteye

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    ..........awww it now online again ... and I am stuck at a 3rd world country (not kuwait but iraq ... at least the internet is ..it suck so bad ...)
     
  15. krabman

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    The official site says 39.99 box or download. If you want both it is 49.99.
     
  16. BHD

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    i cringed as soon as i the GPG logo ..space hack lol.
     
  17. GamingACU

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    yea, but I'm pretty sure there's a decent single player aspect to it as well

    Also, I have a feeling this'll come in before my Sager, any chance I could run it on low with my compaq:

    2.0ghz amd 64 turion x2
    geforce 7000m
    4gb ram
     
  18. saincteye

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    good luck with that ..lol just make sure you not gonna burn your laptop
     
  19. GamingACU

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    Haha, I could get assassins creed to run on low with it, surprisingly, and it didn't melt my comp. But yea...that 7000m is a piece of junk.
     
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    Hi!I've just bought demigod, GamingACU asked me to write some impressions about the game.
    I just played 2-3 hours, so I won't be able to give a comprehensive analysis (also, I am italian, so it would take too much time and effort to write a full review in english :p ). Anyway, here are my first impressions:

    From an aesthetic point of view, Demigod looks quite good. We aren't speaking about Dawn of War 2-style graphics, but the models and textures are quite good-loking. Quite obvious, due to the fact that there isn't actually a big number of different units and/or buildings...in fact, the monotony of the setting is a problem which is immediately noticeable.
    The game runs perfectly on max settings and 8 AA at 1680x1050 with my 9800m GTS, with only little slowdowns in the most frenetic moments.

    Speaking about the skirmish mode, in my opinion the gameplay is extremely fun: a very succesful hybrid between diablo-style action RPGs, RTS and FPS mechanics.
    The gameplay is all about superpowerful heroes (the demigods) fighting each others (usually in teams of 2+ members) in a relatively small arena, on wich are positioned various flags that give special powers, upgrades and "war points".
    The player controls his demigod and (depending upon the hero's abilities) only a very small number of units.
    The rest of the army (represented by "reinforcement-waves" coming out from portals near the HQ) is committed to the AI, wich merely sends the troops forward towards the enemy HQ.

    There are 4 victory conditions:
    -Conquest: The goal is to destroy the enemy HQ.
    -Massacre: The goal is to kill "X" enemy demigods.
    -Fortress: The goal is to destroy all enemy fortresses.
    -Domination: The goal is to reach "X" war points

    The only resources used in the game are:
    - War points (obtained by conquering and maintaining control over the flags) determine the level of the HQ, and consequently the number of reinforcements that will arrive per reinforcements-wave.
    - Gold (gained by conquering mine-flags and killing enemy demigods) is used to purchase HQ upgrades (extra towers, élite units, trebuchets) and buy items (potions, scrolls, but also armors, gloves, boots...)

    The gameplay is very frenetic, and the best way I can think of to describe it is: Think about a multiplayer Halo match (with his exciting and organized team tactics), and replace Master Chief with the characters from Diablo 2. There you are :D
    Demigods are overwhelmingly powerful, and basically crush any standard unit...you will feel mighty Diablo-like, but the carnage you will be able to cause is finalized to team strategic goals, and will need to think cooperatively.

    The demigods are quite well-balanced (even if obviously there are first and second choices, but nothing unplayable), and are divided in "Generals" and "Assassins".
    Generals focus on summoning élite controllable minions and supporting them, while assassing are solo-units much more powerful in dealing and taking damage than the generals.

    There is no actual campaign, being "skirmish" and "tournament" the only two game modes. Tournament is a series of skirmishes randomly defined by the PC. I've only played a few matches in tournament mode, 'cause I've played almost only in LAN with my brother, so I'm not shure about what will the effective evolution of the tournament be, nor I do know its duration.

    I think this is a nice game after all, well designed and with a very original gameplay. I had fun playing some skirmishes in single, but the multiplayer esperience is definetly the real core of the enjoyment. I think this will become a VERY popular LAN-game (at least in my circle of friends :p ).
    Also, it is a very immediate game to play as a novice, but I feel that the curve towards the mastering of the game mechanics is quite steep.

    In the end....I strongly reccomand it ;)
    I will be happy to answer any questions...

    PS: Sorry for the chaos of this post...but hey...in italy it's almost 4 am :p
     
  21. HTWingNut

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    Interesting, but I find comments like these a little awry...

    " Some players may be relieved to know there is no story-oriented campaign mode..."

    Who wouldn't want a story-oriented campaign? That to me says there's just a bunch of maps thrown together. Not good.


    " Without a campaign, single player feels more like a practice mode for multiplayer."

    So it is a bunch of levels thrown together. Yikes! Why is EVERYTHING geared towards multiplayer these days? Come on, some of us don't have a large circle of friends that enjoy the same games if PC gaming at all. And to get your butt handed to you online is not fun either. I like to think I'm striving to complete something. Not just a bunch of meaningless skirmishes.


    " The good people at Stardock have also said they will be providing continuing support for Demigod."

    Well I hope so!


    " ... though there's no confirmation as to whether the maps will be free or paid expansions ... -- the publisher states Demigod maps are exceptionally expensive to create. ... The first two post-release Demigods will be free as well; after that, they're simply not sure yet."

    What is that supposed to mean? Expensive? How so compared with any other game?


    " I could shed tears over this blend of absolute beauty and epicness."

    So far user reviews say graphics are ok but not orgasmic. But maybe they're just FPS fanboys used to Crysis graphics.
     
  22. MrButterBiscuits

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    Hey Guy's I've had a bunch of requests to do a video review on this game... Ill get it done in the next few days and post it for you :D
     
  23. GamingACU

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    Sounds like a mix of Diablo III(just because diablo II's graphics are outdated) and company of heroes (since you get resources by holding instead of gathering).
     
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    The skirmish maps are well designed, but there's only 8 of them :(
    I agree with you about the absence of a campaign...they really threw it all on multiplayer...but at least on that side I think it will be a huge success...
     
  25. Diablo

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    doesnt the "story" depend on what demigod you choose to play as? and then it gives you the demigods backstory or something like that?
     
  26. TheGabbo

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    You find each caracter's backstory directly in the demigod selection screen.
    I'm not shure if there is a logic in the progression of the skirmishes that constitute the tournament, or if there will be different endings. I'll let you know as soon as I begin and finish a tournament.
    But I think that the maximun we can dream about are simply different video endings (DoA-like), but no actual story seems present.
     
  27. Exostenza

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    I'm thinking about getting it, but am going to wait for a solid metacritic score in a week ir so to see what is really up. I still haven't got DoW II!
     
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    I ordered it a few days ago. Looks pretty neat
     
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    Whoever's doing the reviews should take their time and do a decent job, it'll make a difference between buying a solid game for entertainment or burning money in hard times.
     
  30. IWantMyMTV

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    I'm avoiding this game for a few weeks...

    The developer, Gas Powered, was one of my favorites until Space Siege...of course, that publisher was Sega, and Demigod is being published by Stardock who has a slightly better reputation than Sega...

    Maybe Stardock provided the appropriate resources/time to do Demigod correctly...*crossing fingers*
     
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    Stardock haven't made a commercial and critical flop yet (touch wood) so it can't be that bad. However gamespot user reviews calling it a one-trick pony of a game don't inspire confidence either.
     
  32. GamingACU

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    I don't think Demigod is meant to be a game you'll play for 12 hours straight everyday, but more of a game that you'll play if you've just got an hour or two to bash things.

    In my opinion a game like that has more replay value though. I mean in the end what do you play more, a game that requires 10-20 hours to beat, or a game you play an hour a day for a year?

    I'd compare it to an rts/rpg version of CSS. There's no story in CS, but thousands of people play it everyday. why? because it's simple, fun carnage.
     
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    I get the impression that the players are calling it a one trick pony regarding the single player. The multi is nearly always described as addictive and so on. At least when players can get into a game, sounds like its going to be a few days before the server issues get worked out.

    I do like that the CEO was on their forum talking candidly about the problems and their solutions.
     
  34. Exostenza

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    There are only server issues because gamestop broke the street release date and they weren't ready for the servers t be up and running. Its a miracle they are up as much as they are now.
     
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    Shame the single player experience isn't as rewarding as the multiplayer, to me a really solid game worth purchasing must have a single player mode of some kind to keep me entertained for months if not years.
     
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    That didnt help but they have many other network issues as well. Everything from the join game design where multiple players entering at the same time can prevent them all from getting into a game to some ISPs mistaking game traffic for peer to peer traffic and blocking or throttling it. You can go over to their forums and read up on it.

    Doesnt worry me to much, I believe they will get this going but having been burned before I always wait a week or two and see if things get ironed out.
     
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    So far my thoughts are leaning towards "meh" than "great", but I'll need to spend more time with it. Was VERY disappointed in finding no singleplayer story or campaign at all. There is skirmish mode, and tournament mode, which is just skirmishes linked together best I can tell. Should have done a bit more research, and can't blame the game for that, but was thinking there would atleast be some kind of a campaign. Multiplayer games are fun and fine, but I'm much more of a singleplayer story mode kind of guy.

    Graphics wise, it barely runs on my tablet, and on the X205 it's a struggle. Need to try and tweak SLI settings, but at 1024x768 and medium, I'm getting 12-40fps. Playable, but not very pretty ha.

    As a side note, Impulse did work fine, and was my first experience with it. Will probably not use it very often as there's just really nothing there that I care to purchase or can't get through Steam, but the process atleast worked fine.

    So, game was more of an impulse purchase (ha, joke there) based on some prior previews I had skimmed and liked the thought of battling my demigod, and in time I may enjoy it more, and if you are fans of this genre, it's worth looking into. I guess I must not really be. That's not a knock against the game though.
     
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    Thanks for your thoughts be77solo (+1)

    I was excited about this too, but there wasn't a whole lot of detail on it before release. I would love this type of game if there was an engaging single player campaign. But I'm not too big on multiplayer either for the most part. Only exception is Battlefield 2.
     
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    Alright everybody, I've just upload a compilation of 40gb of HD footage from demigod... I've set up my recording studio and now I'm about to sit down and start on the production, as soon as I'm done I'll post a link to it... I'm really looking forward to getting some feedback from you guys, as this is going to be my first video review :D
     
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    I recall Stardock mentioning in one of their interviews that the majority of their resources and team were devoted to Elemental, with only minimal resources diverted to demigod, which isn't as massive in scope...

    ...or maybe I'm just imagining it...old age does odd things to my memory...

    It does sound like something that's great for relieving some stress after a busy day though.

    The lack of a story/single-player campaign bugs me though. I loved Sins of a Solar Empire, but my biggest complaint with it was that there wasn't a coherent story that you could advance. Sins was also much more massive per game that the lack of a campaign was less noticeable when each map took hours/days/weeks. I'm not sure Demigod will have that going for it once the initial appeal wears off.
     
  41. GamingACU

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    Well in your guys opinion what's worse, No story at all or a mind numbingly bad story?
    Just thought I'd bring that up because I've been playing phantasy star portable on my psp and while the gameplay is enough to keep me entertained for a bit, the story is atrocious.
     
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    I understand where you're going with this. Problem is that it sounds like there's really NO story, just some single player skirmishes.

    IMHO, games that cop out of a single player just show that they don't want to invest in good AI.
     
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    Good bots are needed for the multi as well since they are filling out the blank spots on the teams. I also would have liked a more fleshed out game on the single side since I spend more than half my life working in a place where there is no internet.
     
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    hm...I think this game is good for quick bursts of gaming. I might pick it up depending on whether or not I can run it on my T400 since I don't have a desktop anymore :rolleyes:
     
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    Ever heard of DoTA? If you like that then apparently, Demigod is partially based off it.
     
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    Partially?

    The concept is almost completely identical - i.e. spawn troops (which you don't control), take down enemy towers and then take down the enemy central structure using a hero/demigod character who is much stronger than your peons, has abilities and levels up. What DotA has is a fanbase which is pretty darn big and a map refined through hundreds of tries. Its only restriction is the warcraft engine.

    What demigod could've done is to give it a good singleplayer (the dota ai leaves a bit to be desired although is complex to make), a nice variety of maps and some original demigods. Seems like they nailed 1 of 3.
     
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    yea...I have no idea how many 100's of hours I've spent playing that map. It's pretty much the only WC3 map I played from 2005-2008

    They're going to be releasing more maps/demigods with patches and such. Maybe they'll release an expansion with a real single player mode, but who knows.
     
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    I wonder if Stardock's next release (Elemental) is going to be plagued with the same problems, that's one game that suits my playing tastes and it'll be a shame if it goes the same way Demigod went at release.
     
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    I'm curious about the apparent lack of 'single player' as a detriment...

    Sometimes, I wonder if we just believe everything we're told by gaming review/enthusiast sites...

    Unreal Tournament comes to mind...I actually played through the 'single player' campaign...it's nothing but a progression of all the maps in the different modes...and you know what? Despite not having a story (or a very thin story...'Become the best...win the tournament'), I love playing against the very good AI bots, and find myself frequently playing the Assault modes single player...very little effort went into 'single player' other than the AI of the bots...but I think it's a fun single player game...it's a better multiplayer game, but it works, for me, as a single player...along comes Unreal Tournament 3 and because everyone wants story-driven campaigns (why? I don't know), Epic tries to deliver...what a disaster...not necessarily because of the story...there are other issues, too...but I still prefer playing UT or UT 2K4 over UT3...UT3 is very pretty, and there's a single player story, but it's still missing something...

    It's like saying 'sandbox' these days or 'open ended gameplay'...I hate sandbox games because I'm normally not smart enough to figure out what to do...I'm a goal-oriented person, and I hate wandering around a gameworld trying to figure out what I'm supposed to do...but 'sandbox' or 'non-linear' are the phrases that now make a game great...and there are great 'sandbox' games (I loved Far Cry), but I'm not sure it's a requirement for greatness...

    And then there was the holy grail of flight sims...the 'dynamic campaign'...no two missions will ever be the same...I rarely ever played the campaigns...I used the tutorial missions to learn to fly the aircraft, and then I usually just did 'instant action'...and it was fun...

    And two of my favorite vintage strategy games don't really have a campaign mode...Master of Orion and Civilization 2...they're like a board game...you start with nothing or very little, and you build up your little empire on planets or with cities on continents, and then, you get a little sprite parade if you win Master of Orion or a trumpet fanfare on Civ 2 with a little video and a Hall of Fame shot...and then you repeat the whole process on another randomly generated map with random enemies...and both those games are a lot of fun...

    Now, that doesn't mean I think Demigod is good...I don't know yet...I'm very reticent to buy it based on my experience with Space Siege (which has a great intro movie and the story starts with a bang)...but if Demigod has great AI, I'm willing to jump in a 30 minute single player game, have fun and then go do something else...no story isn't a deal breaker for me...

    Phew...done ranting...
     
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    That is a good point MTV. I have to admit I used to play the original UT offline when I was up north because I wanted a shorter no brain experience at times. It was actually kind of my thoughts on how the single player in this one would likely play out for me. As in something to play when I dont have the time or desire to get into a deeper session.
     
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