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    directx 10 may happen in xp

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mas5acre, Jul 23, 2007.

  1. mas5acre

    mas5acre Notebook Evangelist

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    Im sure many of you read about falling leaf systems and them trying to bring directx 10 to xp and some think it a hoax. Maybe it is. I've always had my eye on this program for linux, unix and freeBSD called Wine which allows windows programs to run under X at native speeds. I never actually used it but was reading their faq and came across this tidbit:


    EXCERT FROM http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-18c88a81ff4d4972eaea142e7e1e3a666c50fe72

    "Why does Wine have a Windows version on the download page?

    The Windows version allows Wine developers to test out the completeness of Wine DLLs by replacing those on Windows. At least for now, this is mainly for developers. However, in the future once we finish our DirectX 10 implementation, we may be able to implement Direct3D 10 in Windows XP the same way it runs in Wine: by translating DirectX calls to OpenGL ones."
     
  2. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    interesting. hopefully by the time they do this xp won't be obsolete ;)
     
  3. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    I just don't see what the point is! Why would you want to run DX10 games, optimized for Windows Vista, on Windows XP? The only reasons I can think of are if you don't have enough money to upgrade to Vista or if you are trying to emulate DX10 in linux.
     
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    Old news, we had this announced for a while now.

    Nvidia was trying to do it, until they hit some obstacles.... then Microsoft stepped in to make Memory Virtualization (what makes Vista DX10 happen) optional... so that it can be placed on XP.

    So its in the works.

    Before this happened, another group of programmers were doing DX10 on XP from scratch... using software emualtion:
    Alky Project

    They already released their alpha software for DX10 for XP. :)
     
  5. ZT3000!

    ZT3000! Notebook Evangelist

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    I'll laugh if DX10 games "optimized for windows vista" run better on XP than on vista. :p
     
  6. Nettwerk

    Nettwerk Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've been running vista since it came out on my main game computer and im about sick of it.
     
  7. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    The Alky project is entirely different. This Wine attempt might just work. (It's the same approach I'd take. Alky's reliance on software emulation isn't going to work in the long run... It'll be too slow)

    Translating calls to OpenGL is the only sensible way to enable hardware-accelerated DX10 on XP (at least without support from MS)

    They're not optimized for Vista. They just use DX10, which only exists on Vista. If DX10 was ported to XP, they'd run just as well there.

    Or if you think Vista sucks.
     
  8. jessi3k3

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    Think? Vista does, in fact, suck. The fact that every game wont stop stuttering reguardless of which one I play should be enough to justify it sucking. Yes, it's a Vista issue. This is why I am using XP now and everything game works fine on my 7900 go gs (except Halo 2 Vista, grrrrrr).