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    do dox's drivers really help in gaming?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by zijin_cheng, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. zijin_cheng

    zijin_cheng Notebook Evangelist

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    i have a 9600m GT ddr2 video card in a DV5T. will using dox's drivers see a boost in gaming? have there been any problems encountered? i have vista home 64 bit
     
  2. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    yes they do!they helped me a lot on my hdx 18t!
     
  3. AppleUsr

    AppleUsr Notebook Deity

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    i got a pretty big boost when i tried them. however I lost sleep which sucks on a laptop. so i got rid of it. also my gpu temps went up about 4 degrees. its still the best boost ive seen without ocing.
     
  4. CharlesP

    CharlesP Notebook Enthusiast

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    i have the same laptop : dv5t whit the 9600 gt ddr2 and I have seen a good boost from de original driver to dox Optimised 182.05

    I also found that I have better FPS and stability when I choose balance instead of performance in the install option and sleep stile work fine.

    Good luck
     
  5. LaptopNut

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    I also recommend you try out the official Nvidia beta mobile drivers.
     
  6. zijin_cheng

    zijin_cheng Notebook Evangelist

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    i currently have those beta drivers. they don't help oen bit
     
  7. trvelbug

    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    i used dox's 182.05 drivers on my ageing 8600m gs equipped hp
    and lets just say it stopped me from buying a new laptop
    theyre a godsend...
     
  8. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Try Nvidia's 178.28 official driver off their website also. Personally I had better performance with it than with dox 185.20. So worth a try to find out what works better for you.
     
  9. Manic Penguins

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    They are amazing. Dont just take 3DMark06 score to compare though. For instance, my score went from 2700 to 2800 but demanding games like Fallout 3 became 2/3x smoother. :D :cool:
     
  10. bigepilot

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    The key is finding a driver that doesn't downclock/crash to the desktop.
     
  11. spradhan01

    spradhan01 Notebook Virtuoso

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    When I used dox drivers, the temp was 71 at idle and while gaming it went upto 83 but when I used Nvidia 179 then idle was 58 and while gaming was 70 at max.
    So ur call.
     
  12. wewe

    wewe Notebook Evangelist

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    dox drivers are better than nvidia if u want to talk about performance , but i didn't notice that much big difference to be honest , maybe because it's on xp
    but there's definitely a noticeable difference however temps are also higher with dox
     
  13. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    With a 9600M, chasing drivers will only get you so far, because nothing is going to boost its power any higher than what it has. Just find a stable driver and stick with it. Something like 181.22 will suit you for the entire life of your notebook.
     
  14. Persio

    Persio Notebook Consultant

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    they boosted my performance too
     
  15. krusha03

    krusha03 Notebook Consultant

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    Here are some benchmarks i made with Nvidia 179.28 vs Dox's 180.44 in L4D. As you can see it improves your minimum FPS and that makes the game run much smoother.

    [​IMG]

    Or in pure numbers 14/47/27.577 vs 15/50/30.063 Min/Max/Avg for NV and Dox drivers respectively. Note this is on 1280x800, everything max with 2xAA and 4xAF and no overclock
     
  16. thegreatsquare

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    Yes and I wish he kept a desktop version available too.
     
  17. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    Dox's 182.05 is the best driver out there for 9600M and vista 64!
     
  18. Dragunov-21

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    Is that really enough of a difference to bother with? I mean, heat's a killer, and those numbers aren't an amazing improvement (IMO).

    I overclock, which gains me ~20% increased FPS, with marginal (4-7C) increase in heat, which to me is worth it, but for those numbers...

    Mind you, I spose it depends on the individual machine and user, so I'm just chucking in my 2c.
     
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    It's like using regular gas when you can get plus for free, but it's on the opposite corner.
     
  20. Hualsay

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    They've always helped me :) .
     
  21. Dragunov-21

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    Yeah,well just remember that while using plus (95RON) in a standard (91RON) engine does net you a minimal performance boost, you risk burning your piston rings. The same applies here ;)
     
  22. krusha03

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    Well 3FPS it like more than 10% increase from 27FPS to 30FPS, and the heat difference is less than 4-7C. Plus 10% increase for doing nothing is pretty good. Also with overclock the story changes a lot, have a look at this graph:

    [​IMG]

    or from 20/65/38.280 to 25/83/50.423 which is more than 20% increase. At this framerates the difference is from kinda playable to smooth game play, look at the % not the actual FPS increase
     
  23. Dragunov-21

    Dragunov-21 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ahk, true dat. I'm using the LV2Go.com 177.79 drivers atm, but mebbe I'll give dox's a shot...

    I was going off spradhan's 13C difference.

    Just out of interest, is it just framerate that affects smoothness of gameplay?

    Only with FO3 even when I'm at 45FPS (not very often lol), it still seems... laggy?
     
  24. mechrock

    mechrock Notebook Evangelist

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    Does anyone know if the Dox 182.05 Drivers help Crysis. No other game right now matters to me because I can already max them smooth.
     
  25. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    yeah it might double your framerate in crysis.

    just kidding. not nearly that helpful.
     
  26. krusha03

    krusha03 Notebook Consultant

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    I would define smoothens and laggy as two different things. Game can run at 60FPS constant(hence everything runs smooth), but because of bad programming for example it could still be laggy (time delay between user input and reaction in-game). Also I have noticed this most with racing games, when i set my setting too high and i get maybe around 25-30FPS avg and even if it look smooth, the input lag is too high hence it makes the game unplayable, so I have to sacrifice graphics to be able to actually win races. I wasn’t sure if this was because the system was too stressed or because of the low fps, but this short article explained a lot
     
  27. Blackhalo

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    Obviously you're kidding. You run a crappy 8600m GT. No driver designed by any human could improve that thing.
     
  28. wewe

    wewe Notebook Evangelist

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    as far as i know
    8700m gt is an overclocked 8600m gt
    so it can be improved after all :p
     
  29. Dire NTropy

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    Dox's drivers raised my heat by MAYBE 2C max. I didn't really notice a heat difference, but the boost to min FPS helps a lot.
     
  30. arfett

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    Your best bet it to just try it out yourself. If your temperatures are fine then there's no reason not to use them unless you have any stability issues.
     
  31. Blackhalo

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    lol good point. They sure are squeezing juice out of that puppy.
     
  32. LaptopNut

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    I have found custom configs are the best thing to improve the look and performance of Crysis. The default config is not optimised and is obviously for mainstream use.
     
  33. zijin_cheng

    zijin_cheng Notebook Evangelist

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    which version of dox's driver would be the best for gaming?
     
  34. AdamU

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    do you guys install on balance or performance?
     
  35. mechrock

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    I install performance. Works just fine 7213 3dmark06
     
  36. Galdere

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    His 181.20 works for desktops also and so will his next mod.
     
  37. zijin_cheng

    zijin_cheng Notebook Evangelist

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    i didn't find any noticeable increase in performance when i installed dox's drivers
     
  38. CA36GTP

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    DOX 182.05 drivers on performance allowed me to break 10,000 points in 3dMark and increased my Crysis Warhead benchmark average by 5FPS.
     
  39. Apollo13

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    You obviously haven't compared mid-2007 drivers to recent ones on an 8600M GT. From stock Dell drivers to 169.02 I gained more than 275 points on Vista, and a switch to XP and 174.31 gained an additional 225. All without overclocking. Game performance notably increased as well. 178.13 marked another 125 points over 174.31 with the same overclock on them, and the newer drivers seem to be helping a bit, too. Not as much as the initial improvements were, but they're still slowly improving.

    Combined with a bit of overclocking, my 3Dmark score has gone from 3261 to 4215. Most of that difference is due to the drivers - at least 625 points of it.

    Dox 181.20 falls short of giving me my best 3DMark06 score by 3 points despite testing it with 1,000 KHz higher core clock than I usually do, but game performance seems quite good and it's very stable on XP, without any crashes in three months (it did cause a BSOD on Win7 with the Vista x64 drivers, though). That's compared to 178.26, my best-3DMark one to date. But they're certainly not hurting anything in XP. I may try out 182.05 after reading this - sounds like they may be better yet.

    I installed them on Balanced. Wasn't sure enough what the difference between the three settings were at the time to particularly want to try Performance when it mentioned stability may be worse. Balanced does seem like a very good setting given its track record so far, though.