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    e1505 - 807 3DMarks my a$$!!! What gives????

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by anarky, Aug 12, 2006.

  1. anarky

    anarky Notebook Geek

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    Hey guys,

    Ive got a new Dell e1505, 1GB RAM, 5400 HD, and an X1300 ATI graphics card.

    I THINK Ive got the newest ATI Catalyst driver.

    Anyway, I ran 3DMark06 last night, and I only got an 807 score. That seems REALLY low, even considering it's the 2006 version. From what I've read, this system (even with the x1300 card) should be able to get at least a score of 1500.

    Am I wrong? Is there something I'm doing wrong here? All I know is that during the benchmark, I was getting around 1 or 2 FPS during all six demos. That was at the default resolutions and stuff.

    People with this same machine are getting higher scores without overclocking, and that's something Id like to avoid doing. I try not to overclock with laptops.

    Is the answer in Omega drivers? I can't see such a steep gain coming from just upgrading the driver...is there something Im missing?

    Thanks,

    Josh
     
  2. chizzua

    chizzua Notebook Enthusiast

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    The x1300 is not that great a card, and on 3DMark06, the score seems somewhat credible.
     
  3. admlam

    admlam Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Considering that a x1600 only gets 1.2k - 1.7k on 3dmarks06, your score sounds about right.
     
  4. anarky

    anarky Notebook Geek

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    oh GOD, you're kidding me. I couldve sworn I that this card is supposed to perform better than that. I know it's no screamer, but...****. Well, will the Omega drivers make a diff?

    I've already set the card's settings to performance, and set it to let apps decide... anything else I can do?
     
  5. dudesdudets

    dudesdudets Notebook Deity

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    X1300 scores around 1300-1500 in 3dmark05 not 06.
     
  6. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You pretty muched screwd, the X1400 performs better, the X1300 isnt too good, but its way better than intergrated.
     
  7. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    You were probably looking at 3DMark05 scores. '05 and '06 are different benchmarks, and the scores are not comparable. 807 isn't a bad score for the X1300.
     
  8. anarky

    anarky Notebook Geek

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    Well I just switched to 800x600 res, and got a 1221 score. So I guess I'll be playing games in that res from now on. I wonder if it'll handle Spore when it comes out...

    Probably no chance of UT2007.

    Hmpf.
     
  9. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I wouldn't judge what resolution you can play games with based on a benchmark tool. Keep in mind that by lowering the resolution, your 3DMark scores are no longer comparable unless the other person is using the same resolution.
     
  10. gethin

    gethin Notebook Evangelist

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    No it will not play UT 2007 by the looks of things - of course that depends on how scalable the graphics are. - but it definitely won't play it with any eye candy
     
  11. jujube

    jujube Notebook Deity

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    Yup, like others posted you were probably referring to the 05 benches and yeah, you're SOL unless you're going back to Dell to get the x1400 and upgrade it on your own which would invariably void your warranty.

    ps. rumour going around that with AMD coming aboard we might be seeing a more powerful GPU in the e 1505 model, maybe the elusive x1700!
     
  12. gethin

    gethin Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't see that happening somehow, its only the XPS range that will get the fastes GPU, it makes no sense for dell to configure their budget models with fast GPU's otherwise no one would buy the XPS series
     
  13. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I also doubt it. The AMD systems will probably be more budget-oriented.
     
  14. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Considering I get 1083 points with my X1400 in 06, and my 6600GT machine gets 840, I'd say your 06 score is alright.

    EDIT: BTW, I agree that Dell prolly wont tech up the e1505, shame, but perhaps we'll see their 14" version with an X1100 or something. I have a couple of uni mates getting laptop envy and want to start playing CSS with us, and perhaps an AMD Dell would be a nice budget solution for them.
     
  15. anarky

    anarky Notebook Geek

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    I guess Ill have to buy a new desktop then, for Unreal2007 and the like (my old PC doesn't have PCIe)... Dont wanna stray too far off topic here, but anyone got a good (inexpensive) graphics card reccomendation that will almost certainly handle UT2007?

    Also....someone mentioned upgrading the graphics card in my notebook from the x1300 to the x1400... easy to do yourself? is the difference worth the hassle and price?

    Thanks
     
  16. Dustin Sklavos

    Dustin Sklavos Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    It's too early to say. What we're seeing now are largely bullshots. Remember that early screens of Doom 3 looked better than the game itself does. UT games also tend to scale very well with hardware. Ultimately there are just too many variables to account for.

    I doubt it's that easy to do. I don't think it's going to be terribly difficult, but really not novice level stuff. As for the price, that's pretty much up to you to determine.
     
  17. jeffmd

    jeffmd Notebook Evangelist

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    anarky, the 3dmark 2005 and especialy the 2006 consist of many DX9 intensive test utilising MANY shaders and is only a good scorer on the 6800/x800 generation and up.

    The patheticly small 4 pipelines in the x1300/x1400 and its barly reaching the 9800pro mark put it in no shape to be running those benchmarks.

    The card is real nice for dx7/8, and first gen DX9 games (x1400 can run doom3 and HL2 nice) but fear and oblivion compleatly choke.