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    gfx cards and gaming - need help..

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by mads-3, Feb 4, 2007.

  1. mads-3

    mads-3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok.. I find the following text quite odd... I found it on these forums.
    I quote:

    "Mobility RADEON 9550/9600/9700/9800: The most common of ATi's GPUs, and indeed some of the most popular notebook graphics cards, are those based on the ATi M10-M12 chipsets. These cards offer a good blend of performance and battery life. Even the modest MR9600 can handle modern 3D games with adequate performance; the MR9700 and 9800 provide excellent perfmorance on standard WXGA resolutions in all but the most demanding games. These chips are found in a wide range of notebooks, from the inexpensive eMachines m6000 and Gateway 7400GX series to the Apple Powerbook to the earlier Acer Ferrari and Dell XPS models. These card are gradually being phased out in favor of the newer PCI-E powered xX00 series cards.

    Mobility RADEON x300/x600/x700/x800: These are the newer, PCI-E based cores seen in most newer, higher-end machines, such as the Dell Inspiron 6000, ASUS W3V, and Acer Ferrari 4000. These GPUs are generally slightly less powerful than their 9x00 equivalents and rely on the PCI-Express interface to make up the difference. In practice, this theory doesn't work out so well, but the xX00 series cards are quickly replacing the older M10-M12 cores in high-end machines."

    Err.. The x700 is better than the 9700, right? Because otherwise I'll go with the 9700..
    I found this PC: 2ghz pentium M processor 760
    80GB HDD 5400RPM
    2GB !pc2700 ddr333!
    Radeon mobility x700 with 256mb dedicated ram
    Wlan and all....
    it has a 15" SXGA+ screen too.

    I'm just not sure if 2gb 333mhz ram is better than 1gb 533 or 667mhz?? Which is better?
    And how is the performance of an x700 128mb/256mb?

    I've been looking at different PC's, also one with a turion 64 2ghz CPU, 128mb x700 and 1 gb 533mhz ram,
    Some PC's with pentium M CPU's, 1gb 400mhz and a 9700gfx.
    I've also looked at a zepto Znote 6214w with 1.66ghz core duo, 1gb 667mhz ram and geforce go 7600 512mb

    Which do you think will suit me best?
    I'm not gonna play too many "new" games, I think. Mostly CS: source, UT2k4 and some RTS (I don't think you need the best gfx card for most RTS'?)

    need answers to what I said above and different PCs and in short:
    2GB ddr333 ram vs. 1gb ddr 533?
    radeon x700 128mb vs x700 256mb?
    radeon x 700 vs radeon 9700 128mb?
    core duo 1.66ghz vs. pentium M 2ghz?
    PC: core duo 1.66ghz, 1gb 667mhz ram, geforce go 7600 512mb (expensive)
    Vs. pentium M 2ghz, 2gb 333mhz ram, radeon x700 256mb (cheap)
     
  2. lowlymarine

    lowlymarine Notebook Deity

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    The x700 is indeed superior to the 9700 - it was intended to replace the 9800 (with the x600 for the 9700, and the x300 for the 9600/9550)

    If you can get a dual-core processor, that's the way to go. They're much better for multitasking and gaming alike. And 2GB of RAM will almost always be better than 1GB, regardless of speed.
     
  3. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    I would agree with lowlymarine. If your not going to be gaming all that much, a Mobility X700 will be fine. Even that card is quite a good card, and is quite powerful. In terms of processors, again, a dual core one will be much better than a single cored Pentium M or Turion 64. Dual core offers alot more multi-tasking ability for programs, and more and more programs are becoming multithreaded, which will mean faster performance.

    More RAM is always good, and the speed difference probably won't make all that much difference, but if you choice is between 1 GB/dual core processor and 2 GB/single core processor, I would take the former, as the RAm can be upgraded quite easily.
     
  4. SideSwipe

    SideSwipe Notebook Virtuoso

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    the expensive pc is better obviously even if it only has 1gb

    it has dual core and a 7600 which is better than a x700 (plus newer too)

    the newere RTS do need some good gfx cards but depends on what resolution and how much detail u wanna see

    the x700 might be enuff for what u need but if it isnt then ur stuck with a barely gaming laptop. the 7600 shud definitely run the games u want and as for dual core, well it will only be useful in such games if they were optimised for them and i dont think those two FPS games were.
     
  5. mads-3

    mads-3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok..
    The only thing is..
    I don't wanna waste any money, obviously...
    How much do I need the PC with geforce go 7600 and all that (it has a 14.1" widescreen monitor zepto 6214w..) And I'm definately gonna be plugged in 98% of the time if not 99%.. So I think a 15" would be better, but I don't know if that's just people who want different stuff, have different tastes.
    But I'm pretty sure my gaming needs will be ut2k4, cs:s, farcry and maybe bf vietnam. And IF I buy one with x700 I buy it used, so I can just sell for app. same price (it's not that much of a loss)
    and how big difference do you think I will se in x700 128mb vs 256mb?

    Thanks so far :)
     
  6. Superjrj

    Superjrj Notebook Geek

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    farcry is a graphic maneater :)
     
  7. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    If you are on low budget and could only afford an ATI x700, then I would suggest getting a Geforce 6600 since the 6600 supports shader model 3.0 where the x700 only supports shader model 2.0. Not much point in going for the x700 since more and more games nowadays will be needing SM 3.0 anyway...
     
  8. mads-3

    mads-3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm buying the laptops used.
    The one I am looking at which has the x700 costs me 882 US$

    The one with the go 7600 costs me more than 1150$.. And he is already selling to another, so I would have to offer like 1200$.. AND it has a screen that I personally think is a bit too small....
    I'm looking at another with a go 7600 and 2 gigs ram n stuff... It says it costs app 1300$, but I offered 970, let's see what he says.
    But when I'm just gonna be playing counter strike source and UT2k4... Would the expensive machine be nescessary???
     
  9. mads-3

    mads-3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The ASUS G2 costs 2700$, cheapest
    The ASUS A8JS costs 1970$ cheapest
    just so you can get something to compare it with...