go8800(renamed 8800M)

It looks like there will be a mobile 8800 soon. In Nvidia's notebook section it says
"Coming soon – The GeForce 8M Series for enthusiast will be released in the summer of 2007!"

The card's name has also been spotted in driver files released by Nvidia. Do you guys think that they will actually have the card out for summer? That would be amazing.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_m_series.html

 

Awesome! Finally, some official confirmation that high-end DX10 will be available sometime this summer. Me = excited.

 

I know if its actually coming in the summer i can't wait. The 8600gt doesn't look like it will be that futureproof, as it cannot play current games that well.

 

Nice info, thank you for posting this. And welcome to the forums.

Hopefully ATI won't be that far behind in releasing their high-end DirectX 10 graphics card.

 

Hopefully it won't be delayed. I'd like to see this in a 15.4 like the C90, but it probably will need to be a 17 inch.

 

Well, ATI is gonna have 65nm AFAIK so they will be able to use more pipelines with the same heat generation.

 

ATI better have something real good planned.

 

Well, their cards have been announced in some of HP's products (the HDX and most of the business line), but they have not officially announced them yet, nor have they provided specs on them.

 

guys, when nvidia says that the cards will be released in the summer, how long does it usually take for these cards to find their way into high end laptops?

For instance, with the clevo d900c shipping out with the 7950gtx sli, how long will it take for clevo to send laptops with the new cards, or is that entirely dependent on the resellers to work it out?

 

Where are you getting this info? I have yet to find any benchmarks concerning the 8600M GT. I've only see the GS version (Which were somewhat lower than expected), but the GT is "supposedly" going to score about 4k in 3dmark06 - Not exactly an 8800M, but certainly having the ability to play current games well.

 

It's entirely up to the laptop manufacturer. If ATI or Nvidia can supply the card quickly, and the laptop maker is willing to put in the money and time to switch to a different graphics card, then it will find its way into your hands fast.

 

I guess 8800m will score areound 6000 3dmarks06 at least,... You will be god with this kind of gpu in portable computer AKA lappie

 

The D900C on the Clevo page says it's going to have a "nVIDIA® GeForce Go 8700M GT 512MB", and that notebook is as high-end as they get. I'm guessing there will never be an 8800M; it's too big and hot and power consuming. Someone else thought maybe the 8700M is a modified desktop 8600 Ultra. I don't think we'll ever see G80 mobile, but maybe the die shrink of G81, aka, 8900M.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/D900C.asp

Edit: And FREN, I feel terrible for the dude in your signature.

 

well since 8800m GS drivers are already ready, i think they will release 8800 too. I do not see any problems, because GS is downclocked version of GT, so they found easy solution for overheating.

 

This is all just speculation; I have nothing to back it up.

I have no doubt they internally called it the 8800, but I think since then renamed it 8700. Like, when Clevo was asked about the enthusiest DX10 graphics on the D900C and M570RU listed on the little orange specs sheet, they confirmed it would be 8800. And now their own website says 8700.

It's all just superficial numbers. They just decided it wasn't up to par with the 8800 name is all. We were calling the other mobile parts NB8P and such for a little while.

But, let me stress, this is just my speculation. Don't pound me if anything I said is totally wrong please.

And 8800M GS drivers? Where have you seen that?

Edit: Ah, I see. Yeah, it isn't REALLY an 8800. It's listed as G84, basically a beefy 8600. I dunno. I think 8700M GT is just a newer name for 8800M GS, but just my thoughts.

 

Actually, I've seen benchmarks of the 8600GT ranging from 3400 to 3600+ in 3DMark06. That is far from not playing 'current games that well'. Thats almost the same level as a Go7900GS, a pretty high end card.

 

Yeah, the 8600M GT is actually quite a powerful card. For all the people complaining about how Nvidia "dropped the ball," remember you're comparing a new midrange card to some of the best cards of the previous generation. The 8600M GT gets awfully close to a Go 7900 - that's quite impressive.

 

From Samsung forum, mind that the gpu is the 8600M-GS with 512mb vram... I think with the new driver, the 8600GT might go over 4000...

 

Actually it doesnt come close to the 7900GS when it is overclocked, and it does it so simple and easy. 7900gs' can reach a 4500+ 3dmark06 easily and surpass the 5000 mark if done correctly.

 

Yes, but if DX10 technology is applied,likewise (Supreme Commander) 3dmark07, 7900gs will lag behind. What i am talking about is benchmark, nothing to do with what time that DX10 will really come in.

 

I agree with lunateck. Most people would shrug off the extra 1K in 3DMark that you could get from "overclocking" the Go 7900 and just go with DX10 compatibility in the 8600M GT.

 

I wonder what the 8700M/8800M can do if the 8600M GT is close to the 7900GS.

 

The highest end 8800M will probably approach desktop 8800GTS speeds

 

I'd love to see a mobile card that powerful, temperature willing. I hope the price on these cards is not sky high like when the G80 launched. When is ATI going to launch some competition? It is about time that they joined this race.

 

I wish that was true but I highly doubt it

The 8800m would have to reach a 3dmark 06 score of 10100 to be on par with the desktop 8800GTS. With the current GeForce go 7900GTX SLI achieving a score of <6000 in 3dmark 06, an increase in score from 6000 to 10100 would signify a 68% increase in 3dmark 06 performance for the 8800m over the go 7900GTX SLI, which sounds revolutionary to say the least (not that the 8800 desktop series weren't).

On the other hand, real life performance is completely different, so who knows?

source:
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2006q4/geforce-8800/index.x?pg=15

 

Hmm ... are you sure that 8800GTS isn't overclocked? The stock 8800GTS should get a 3DMark06 of 8,000

 

actually, it seems that the 8800GTS should get a score >8000 in 1280 X 1024 mode. I'm not sure whether it's considered the default mode or not, but I was under the impression that it was 1024 X 728.

Here are some sites showing the 8800GTS reaching scores of ~8800 in 3dmark 06 in 1280 X 1024 mode:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Nvidia_GeForce_8800_GTS/4505-8902_7-32143069.html
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=335&type=expert&pid=9
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/20.../index.x?pg=15

The last website shows that a 8800GTS with a score of 10100 in 3dmark 06 (1024 X 728) would also get a score of ~8800 in 1280 X 1024 mode, thus showing rather consistent results with findings from other sites.

 

Don't forget, CPU speed is a major factor in 3DMark. When you run it, there are individual scores for individual parts, and that number is everything added up. Comparing mobile 7950GTX to desktop 8800GTS has the CPU factor as well.

 

The 8600M GT performs very well in lower resolutions (1024x768) but anything higher it loses out to the 7900 due to the lower bandwidth, I think.

 

The Go7900GS is in a different league than the 8600M; the former is classified as a high-end card and the latter is more of a mainstream performance card.

And yes the 7900GS does better at high resolutions due in part to its 256-bit memory bus.