hd graphics major performance boost trick

I have the intel hd 4400. it used to score 4800 in graphics on cloudgate. now it scores 5990. thats going from 21fps to 29fps. pretty big jump eh. heres how to do it.

power limit throttling causes gpu to run at a much lower clock rate and the cpu will run at half speed while gaming on hd graphics.

so lets get rid of power limit throttling.

1) open the battery setting in the lower right hand corner of windows 10. click battery settings
2) click on power and sleep settings, then click on additional power settings
3) click on the power setting like balanced that your using.
4) click change advanced power settings
5) click on processor power management
6) change maximum and minimum states to a value like say 65 or 70 try to keep it below 85
7) enjoy 25 percent more gpu power.


This is not a troll thread where the trick does not work...this works and iv'e tested it on 3 of my laptops. but as a side note....there might be some instances where this does nothing but slow down cpu....the idea of this trick is to underclock the cpu to allow for more power to the gpu

 

very nice! wish I know this back in my college day

 

https://ibb.co/egD9s9
https://ibb.co/caJaX9

guess which one is power limit throttling

 

it's not huge, but when your getting 22-23 fps getting the extra 4 fps to make it playable is pretty big considering all other graphics tweaks for intergrated graphics net a loss or during good times 1 fps.

 

https://ibb.co/cMHu9p at 100 percent performance aka full clocks
https://ibb.co/kVUD29 at 75 percent clocks
https://ibb.co/jau2vU at 50 percent clocks core parking set to 50percent


round of applause because after extensive google searching to see if others do this. Closest was some guy randomly saying setting cpu to 99 percent and disabling turbo boost...he was on the right track, but all clock speeds require different amounts of power


edit 14 percent bump...

now ill post back here to show you guys overclocked values

overclocking of course caused throttling and hence lower scores....so avoid youtubers that claim massive gains with intergrated overclocking

 

I would rather undervolt the cpu and gpu in XTU. My i5 4210U use the same HD 4400 iGPU as yours, and I can pretty much keep both the CPU and iGPU at max load&clockspeed, the total package power is still under 25W

 

pics?

undervolting does nothing on all 3 of my laptops

 

i tried your method several times, on all three laptops.

https://ibb.co/dUXHvU

powerlimit throttles 30 seconds in.

the idea of my thread is to show you how to avoid power limit throttling. not create it.

 

No power limit throttling, iGPU locked at 1ghz, CPU can still reach max turbo with ease
I think my i5 4210U can freely ran at 25W TDP, while whichever CPU you're using cannot due to bios contrains

 

lol sorry for laughing bro but your gpu is throttling. 998mhz should be at 1100

care to run some benchmarks, I wonder how much faster my system really is with this simple but effective tweak.

 

also your core clock speed is 2ghz should be boosted to 2.8ghz if your running full speed as you claimed. not calling you a liar but I highly doubt with voltage tweaks you can negate the throttling. I have to run at 1.2ghz to avoid throttling.

curious could you run 3dmark cloudgate

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-4210U-Notebook-Processor.115081.0.html
https://ark.intel.com/products/81016/Intel-Core-i5-4210U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-2_70-GHz
maybe pay a little bit of attention to the research? All info source lead me to the exact specs you're seeing, 1000mhz max for the iGPU and 2.7ghz max for CPU single core boost, 2.4ghz for CPU dual core boost. My 4210u is not throttling one bit. I didn't set the CPU to maximum performance so it didn't stick to 2.4ghz, but even if I do so the result would be no different
This is a 3DMark CloudGate run with my HD4400 (ignore the 840M name report, I disabled it but 3dmark still read both gpu names and the 840M has all its specs 0mhz)

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/28687799?

 

thats pretty impressive. remember this trick is too help 99 percent of all users trying to game on hd graphics.. your the 1 percent. thanks for sharing though. i got a 25 percent boost in framerates by lowering cpu speed and thats on three different laptops all with intel hd 4400.

 

you're limiting the CPU to make more TDP available to the iGPU, that's nothing revolutionary

 

i know its a small trick nothing special....but when youtube has zero videos on this then I think it should be brought to less educated peoples attention

 

I don't know when I looked up tricks to boost my igpus performance nothing worked. they would suggest razer gamebooster and settings changed to high perfomance. nothing i saw talked about powerlimit throttling in detail. one or two videos on changed short turbo power max but limit throttling remained. and zero videos on lowering cpu speed to increase igpu performance.

perhaps you can share a video on this. maybe i can use other tricks to completely remove powerlimit throttling.. thanks in advance @Mobius1

 

First, you need to remove everything else out of the equation, basically make sure 100% that you're getting throttled by power limit. Use dual-channel ram, clean up/re-paste the cpu so that it's not getting hot, check the BIOS to see if there's any TDP lockdown options to disable. Then, go on with XTU

If you're trying to lower CPU clockspeeds to allow for more iGPU power headroom, then try undervolting first is always a better option since you can reduce CPU's TDP without sarcrificing too much actual CPU performance.

Also, for better realtime management of the iGPU, try using HWMonitor + RTSS, it can show the exact iGPU clockspeed + powerdraw on an OSD ingame, so you can see how much you can get away with leaving the CPU at higher clocks

There's nothing wrong with sharing informations, but this is old news (not sarcasm btw). If you know the existence of the GPD Win and GPD Win 2, you can see how far the community is pushing a low-TDP chipset with Intel iGPU via XTU

 

thanks alot for the heads up

I tried undervolting bios changes ect that you recommeded and nothing helped. only thing that works is slowing down cpu on all three laptops.....side note this trick doesnt work with amd

I was wondering if you could link an article showing this trick and what others have done with common laptops. like a link or something. its cool being told its old news when I was searching for hours with 0 tricks to boost intel performance. then coming up with' a solution to be told after extensive research that everyones doing this....my video isnt really searchable so the question is....if this is common knowledge post one video from youtue billions of videos showing someone else doing this. or one article. powerlimit throttling is well known yes but lowing tdp by underclocking isn't exactly well known or common practice. to specifically boost igpu performane it's like people didn't put 2 and 2 together.

 

Iirc ram speed is also a factor right?

Increasing the system ram performance may also give a performance boost but investment on return isn't as great of course.

 

ram speed makes very little difference. dual channel ram can have a significant impact on performance, so yes ram does play a role. but once youv'e got your 5 percent bump nothing but lowering clock speeds on certain laptops will bring up performance by 25 percent

 

Just curious about the proof of many others doing this on youtube or the internet. I still can't find anything. perhaps you could lead me in the right direction because if I find further tweaks farcry 3 might be playable on intel hd 4400.


edit im currently getting an average of 30fps on all low 1366x768. but dips into the teens

 

Memory bandwidth makes a huge difference on iGPU performance.

 

I can agree with that statement to a degree. When I went from ddr2 to ddr3 i got a small bump in gains but dont forget it was a different itteration of igpu. intels smoothing of performance limits what we can tweak. long story short get a gpu but if you can't then these listed tweaks should help with your 720p gaming glory. lol

mods can close this thread now....it's really going nowhere. I always figured the majority of gamers were using igpus.....guess I was wrong

 

I was speaking more to the effect of memory speed. Like 1600 to 2133 might make an impact system iGPU uses system RAM, no?

Usually people that need to rely on iGPU are those that fall on hard times, info like this is always nice to have on the net.

Someone might not have enough money to buy a whole system but may have enough to splurge on pricey fast ram. If the info is out there, more power to the consumer.

 

It would, but the HD 4400 is on some lower-powered haswell CPU and ddr3 1600mhz dual-channel is the maximum there IIRC

the thread is going no where because while it's true most "gamers" use a iGPU (as shown on Steam sometimes, although now it has fallen to the GTX 970/1060), most of them won't be HERE - an enthusias forum about tech and gaming
Second, either you want to mod the game or tweak your system for more performance, there're already knowledge online, you just can't find them yet. See here for a video on how a guy modded Far Cry 3 to reach 30fps on an Intel HD 4000, which is much weaker than the HD 4400. That channel has like 500k subs, so definitely not so small that a random search on youtube can't find
Third, the problem mainly is that you can't find what you're looking for because there's no "end all, be all" guide/solution to it. What I told you on the previous post is the result of years using the machine and keep on learning new things, tweaking it on the way. Again, it's true that a lot of ppl games on iGPUs, but how many of them actually talk about it?
Fourth, just a minor thing, but I never got what CPU you're actually using, and whether you're on a laptop or a desktop, how hot your CPU&GPU is while running games etc.... You already see how hard getting help on problems with iGPUs can be, please don't hold back on informations that benefits the ones can use them to help you

 

oh wow, good stuff thanks for that post i'll chek out his channel dying to play farcry 3

 

No, dual channel 2133mhz ddr3 has been out for a long time now.

 

yes it has. iv'e noticed very small gains with ram speed 1 or 2 fps. not sure why it wouldn't have a bigger impact

 

It depends on the game in question

But you are also forgetting that Intel isnt the only supplier of iGPU, would be much more meaningful to people on those older A10 APU laptops or NUC-like systems.