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    help. OC'd 850m gddr3 vs x-fire 6970m

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by eeryanee, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. eeryanee

    eeryanee Notebook Consultant

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    I'm getting this laptop soon: specs below

    Product Asus N750JK-DB71-CA
    Processor Intel® Core™ i7-4700HQ (2.40 GHz, 6 MB L3 Cache)
    O/S Genuine Windows 8
    Memory 16 GB DDR3L 1600 MHz SDRAM
    Hard Drive 1 TB
    Screen 17.3" FHD (1920x1080) Non-Glare LCD Panel
    Graphics Nvidia GTX850M 4G GDDR3
    Audio Built-in 4 Speakers And Digital Array Microphone
    Bang & Olufsen ICEpower®
    Optical Drive Blu-Ray-Enabled DVD+/-RW/CD-RW
    Interface 1 x Microphone-in jack
    1 x Headphone-out jack (SPDIF)
    1 x Line-in Jack
    4 x USB 3.0 port(s)
    1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert
    1 x HDMI, Support HDMI
    1 x mini Display Port
    1 x SD card reader
    1X AC adapter plug
    Network Integrated 802.11 b/g/n or 802.11 a/b/g/n (Optional) (WiDi)
    Built-in Bluetooth™ V4.0+HS (Optional)
    10/100/1000 Base T


    And im curious if I can play games at 1080p it's native resolution. fingers crossed

    I was looking hough the overclocking 850m thread and noticed he scored 5050 in 3dmark 11 with a gpu score of 4800 roughly, and cannot find comparable card that has benchmarks of games running medium/high settings at 1080p. i have only found ultra at 1080p.

    so will it perform like 6970m x-fire or what lol :p help help help SOS
     
  2. sasuke256

    sasuke256 Notebook Deity

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    What budget do you have ?
    for serious 1080p gaming I would recommend getting anything with a 970M.. games are getting too hungry because of the low optimisation done by devs..
     
  3. eeryanee

    eeryanee Notebook Consultant

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    can someone chime in and tell me what to expect with the 850m...am i looking at 720p gaming or just medium 1080p
     
  4. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    There is NO WAY that an overclocked 850M GDDR3 will perform like X-Fire 6970M.
     
  5. eeryanee

    eeryanee Notebook Consultant

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    eeryanee Notebook Consultant

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    computer glitch
     
  7. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    The same database shows 7970M to score ~5645 in the same 3DMark11 benchmark - their database is old and their tests were done on old drivers, things look a bit different now. 7970M in my laptop can do ~8000 in 3DMark11 when OCed and around 7000 on stock clocks. 6970M X-Fire performs roughly on par with 7970M (single 6970M offers ~60% of 7970M performance). What is more, that benchmark was done in 720p, where vRAM bandwidth impact on performance is limited. In 1080p X-Fire 6970M will perform much better, because of 2x32ROP (vs 16 ROP for 850M), 256-bit bus (vs 128-bit for 850M) and GDDR5 vRAM (vs GDDR3 for 850M).
     
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  8. eeryanee

    eeryanee Notebook Consultant

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    so do you think the laptop is any good....its the best laptop i could finance so i just hope its good
     
  9. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    It will be good for productivity tasks, because of a quad core CPU and 16GB of RAM. For gaming it should do fine in 720p (with many recent titles being very badly optimized). Older titles should run fine in 1080p.
     
  10. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    You really need to tell us your budget first.
     
  11. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Whoa, dude, I'm seeing $1700 for that exact laptop on Amazon, and $1400-$1500 other places. If you're trying to game, You could get an Asus G751 w/ GTX 970M for that price!
     
  12. eeryanee

    eeryanee Notebook Consultant

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    im financing through mdg they want 320 upfront then 40/month im on disability and cannot afford a laptop that can game without saving for 5 months.

    im browsing youtube 850m videos and shadow of mordor is the only game it can't max from the youtube selection. im sure their are others but obviously someone isn't going to buy a 850m laptop and post videos of games it cannot run lol :p

    crysis 3 1080p veryhigh 24-44fps
    nfs rivals maxed 30-50 fps
    metro last light redux maxed 19-35fps

    they all seem playable to me as i consider 20-30 laggy but enjoyable lol in some unique way :p I prefer 60fps so ill be playing all new games mixed settings giving the best ratio of visuals/performance im guessing low/med/high some ultra textures at 1080p

    after watching bf4 maxed on the 850m it boggles my mind how powerful even mainstream gpus are these days I mean this card out performs the 580m gtx. and when overclocked the games maxed hitting 19-23fps will be hitting 24-30 fps which is less laggy but who needs ultra as few games look all that much better on ultra vs medium example crysis 3 with veryhigh textures and all low looks identical to veryhigh everything to my eyes, and i guess in this situation its only my eyes that count as the laptop is for me.

    I remember gta IV and how unoptimised it was even playing on my 6990m and well I'm praying JC3 and gta v will play on at least low/1080p high textures on the 850m. one thing that worries me about this purchase is the longevity, I need a laptop for my business and a gaming laptop thats at least as powerful as the 580m(last laptop) so im hoping this will be able to game for the duration of the payment schedule with mdg.

    can you guys answer one or two of these questions

    how long low/1080p in years
    is the 4700hq fast enough for totalmedia theater 3d conversion with all the enhancements at a locked 30fps as I want to use my 3d movie collection in anaglyph mode with my high end glasss red/cyan glasses(looks like gravy, suprisingly good colors and suprisingly little cross talk but still there)
    what the heck is digital array microphones and will it be good enough for high quality audio recordings for a business?


    if you read and answered anything rep to you and thanks a million :p easy rep guys as you deserve it :)
     
  13. eeryanee

    eeryanee Notebook Consultant

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    ive done more research

    in 3d mark vantage it can score over 19000 im sure i will be able to break 20000 when i get my laptop, and that is better than a 860m stock maybe that is, and on notebookcheck the 860m is ranked way above 6970m x-fire. im sure all things aside x-fire then 860m then 850m but if im overclocking the 850m ill at least attain 860m stock power, which im excited and happy about, can wait to get the darn laptop. its supposed to have the msi gt70 screen and the best speakers on a laptop, curious about the digital array mics and hopefully the built in amp will aid to making voice recordings sound excellent.

    so for 2014 and the games i want to play it looks like max settings 1080p with my insane overclock i have planned(200mhz) unless nvidia inspecter does not allow past 135mhz..not sure and wont know what the max overclock is untill someone chimes in and tells me the restrictions otherwise my hopes of maxed is a pipedream :p
     
  14. sasuke256

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    1- you should look at real 2014 games (next gen ones)
    cod adv. warefare(kind of)/far cry 4/shadow of the mordor/GTA 5 or the new batman.
    the games you stated were developped to run on old gen consoles so its normal a 850m runs them well.
    2- im pretty sure u found Gddr5 850m videos, you loose a lot of perfs with "your" gddr3 vram..
    3- I dont understand why you dont want to consider another laptop..games are getting REALLY hungry..
    4- you wont pass the 135MHz barrier with the stock BIOS..
     
  15. eeryanee

    eeryanee Notebook Consultant

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    they were all gddr3 videos

    1)gta v was built on the last gen
    2)financing
    3)nvidia inspector
     
  16. eeryanee

    eeryanee Notebook Consultant

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    Dude like listen to us.. For how much this laptop costs, you could get one with the 970M.. just look at the Clevo P650SE at xoticpc.. Probably 1400 will get you a full speced one.. They offer financing too I believe...
     
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    i have very bad credit and a low income
     
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    1) GTA V PC version is a next gen version.
    2) You can wait, patience..
    3) told you that it wont let you pass +135MHz with all tools..
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Even that withstanding, they're ripping you off.. That laptop is not worth 1600 and it will be a joke for gaming.. I'd suggest you save up and get something else...
     
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    ok ok ty ty :p