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    how do you get a frame rate higher then 59hz

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Nixon225, Dec 9, 2007.

  1. Nixon225

    Nixon225 Newbie

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    I recently bought a dell inspiron 1720 notebook with all the top preformance parts. The thing preforms well but the screen refresh rate is locked at 59hz. This does not work with game such as battlefield 2 which require a minimum of 60hz. So does any one no how to make the screen refresh rate higher. Could you please provide the easiest way to solve this problem.
     
  2. michaelb0202

    michaelb0202 Notebook Guru

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    Brother, I feel your pain. I have been struggling with this very issue and batttlefield games for a couple of weeks and have found no solution to the problem. My screen is locked at 59 hz as well.
     
  3. pixelot

    pixelot Notebook Acolyte

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    Hmmmmmm.......I have a Vostro 1400 and the refresh rate is set to 60hz. You probably have a better GPU than me, and probably a higher resolution. I would check to see if by setting it at a lower resolution you will gain the option to set the refresh rate higher? Just an idea....
     
  4. adinu

    adinu I pwn teh n00bs.

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    If you turn vsync off, then your frame rates will not be maxed out at the screens refresh rate. So turn that off, and if your card can handle it, your frames will soar past 60.
     
  5. Arki

    Arki Super Moderator

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    Try this:

    I don't know how it is for Vista but it should be similar to this.

    Right click desktop then click properties. Click on "settings" tab then advanced button. Switch over to "monitor" tab.

    Uncheck "hide modes that this monitor cannot display".

    If there is a 60Mhz in the drop menu, then select that. Hope it works.
     
  6. Nixon225

    Nixon225 Newbie

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    Could you explain how to find and turn vsync off.
     
  7. Arki

    Arki Super Moderator

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    Depending on what game you're playing, go into the game's options/settings. It should be listed somewhere.
     
  8. adinu

    adinu I pwn teh n00bs.

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    Or go into your gpu's control panel.
     
  9. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Or output to an external monitor. Not perfect but it will get you above 59hz.
     
  10. Bog

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    I don't think there is any point in achieving more frames per second than screen refresh rate. If you have game rendered at 80fps and yet you have a 60hz refresh rate, those 20 frames are wasted. They cannot be displayed b/c the monitor can only display 60 images per second.
     
  11. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    There is a point if he/she can't play the game.
     
  12. Bog

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    Increasing fps won't do anything. Like I've said before, a monitor of refresh rate of 59hz can only display 59 images per second; more than enough for the human eye to enjoy a smooth gaming experience. Anyway, how is it that CoD4, or any game for that matter, can't run on such a monitor?
     
  13. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It does not make a lot of sense to me, but it sounds like these games are checking for a 'requirement' that the LCD has a 60Hz rate.

    That doesn't make sense at all, but that appears to be the case. It isn't an issue with VSYNC, it is a programming issue.
     
  14. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    /sigh

    You don't have a clue to the problem do you? Let me enlighten you.

    The initial title screen appears and after a few seconds the game boots out to the desktop.

    That's the problem and its BECAUSE of the inability of the screen to get above 59hz. It's a very well documented problem. Google it you'll find out.

    It has nothing to do with what the human eye can or can't see. It has everything to do with the programming in the game and the inability to even play it.
     
  15. Bog

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    You misunderstand. I wasn't trying to address the problem, I was trying to point out that the OP's suggestion of increasing frame rates is not a viable solution to the problem. I understand the problem, and now Greg has proposed a possible cause (that is, a programming error) for that problem. The solution is, as someone mentioned earlier, not to increase fps but to simply plug in an external monitor.
     
  16. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Ah, I do see your point now and I apologize. I do understand your point about increasing FPS now. The only fix that I have seen to work has been to install a NO-CD patch. :(

    I was the one to suggest an external monitor. :p
     
  17. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    LCD monitors do not even have a Hz measurement because they do not have the same kind of refresh a CRT monitor has. LCDs have "response time" which is wholly different than "refresh rate".

    Your screen might claim it is running at a 59Hz refresh rate, but that cannot be the actual case, considering LCDs do not work in that fashion, namely, they do not exhibit a wave system.

    What a strange problem.

    I wonder why manufacturers have not stopped with the whole "Refresh Rate" measurement, considering the rapid rise of LCD use.

    Sorry I am not being very helpful, but this issue really gets to me.
     
  18. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    I thought LCD's had both a hz measurement and a response time. I.e. my samsung tv is 60hz and it has 8ms response time. At least that was what was listed on the specifications. I've seen LCD monitors with both listed also.
     
  19. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Edit: Here, more eloquent than I can be.

     
  20. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Response time is what makes the LCD blurry when your moving quickly in a FPS right? The lower the less blurry correct?
     
  21. Bog

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    That makes sense. Does the frequency that the backlight runs at have any influence on the maximum frames per second possible?
     
  22. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    It should be a direct correlation like CRTs where 1hz = 1frame per second. That's the way that I've always understood it.
     
  23. StormEffect

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    Do you mean the white light coming off the backlight? That should introduce a technical limitation maybe, capped by the speed of light itself, but I do not see how it could possibly have any relevant effect on the maximum FPS possible. The backlight is simply a light source, it does nothing besides force white light through the pixels on your screen.
     
  24. sellick

    sellick Notebook Guru

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    lol. Your monitor is void. Use your warranty, and get it replaced by dell. My 1720 was lucky enough to be shipped WITH a 60HZ screen ;)
     
  25. Bog

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    Thanks for the article Lithus. That clarifies things.
     
  26. blackbird

    blackbird Notebook Deity

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    New drivers could solve this, did for me (used laptopvideo2go.com)

    If you still have it locked at 59 hz you can make battlefield series run at 59 hz so that you can play it.

    Go to

    X:\Documents and Settings\xxx\My Documents\Battlefield 2\Profiles\0001

    Open up Video.con file with notepad....(right click, open, select program, select notepad)

    Change the line
    Settings.setResolution 800x600@60Hz

    to
    Settings.setResolution 800x600@59Hz

    save and try to launch the game, it should work.