how many of u think hlaf life one is good

many people think half life one sucks what do u guys think

 

Half Life one is possibly the greatest FPS ever released. Its not an 8 hour blast like most modern shooters, the AI is still the best I've encountered (although FEAR is a close second), and its just a great storyline.

HL2 is good, but its pretty short, the AI is appalling and Valve are trying to get a bit too up their own arses with the storyline. Its still a great shooter, but will never better HL1 for myself.

 

Whats wrong with HL2 AI, other than that of the rebels? The Combine soldiers' strategy is outstanding, at least, in my eyes it was. I haven't played many shooters.

 

I personally liked HL2 better than HL1. It just has more to offer. Physics and such, really cool stuff you can do in the game. Yeah the AI is kinda weak, but that can be fixed. HL2 was a bit shot, but thats what the 3 episodes are for. When you combine HL2 and the 3 episodes the total game play time will be around 20-30 hours.

 

God I have some very fond memories of playing HL1 til the sun came up and then going to bed with such satisfaction.

 

On a seperate note, I'm really looking forward to Black Mesa: Source mod. Black Mesa

 

Wow thanks for posting that, that looks really cool. I though HL1 was ok, but I played it after I played HL2, so it was hard to reverse like that. Now that they are re-making it with the source engine, I think I could really enjoy it. When is it predicted to launch?

 

Since they haven't posted any updates in 4 months, I'm a bit concerned.

Half-Life (Counter Strike excepted) is my favorite gaming franchise of all time. I've played all the games and expansion packs more times than I can count and it never gets old. I'm currently re-playing HL2 but this time with the FakeFactory Cinematic mod. It really changes the look of the game, and quite frankly, it's how HL2 should have looked when it was released.

 

i like half life 2 more for its increadible atmosphere. Half life 1 is still a good shooter, and was great at the time.

 

is fears AI better than the ones in Hl2???

been wondering

 

I like HL2 the best. The graphics from HL1 sucks. BTW, stop making so many polls IBMPS3Cell.

 

I don't like the actual game Half Life all that much, but it was ok. I love all the mods though, Day of Defeat, Frontline Force, Warhammer 40k, etc, great fun.

Half Life 2, again, I think it's just ok, but love some of the other games running on Source like Sin and Day of Defeat Source.

 

Anybody that says HL1 sucks is obviously a moron. It redefined the fps genre and in many ways it still hasn't been surpassed in storyline or cinematic quality.

And while HL2 was awesome as well, nothing felt as cool to me as blast pit or surface tension for the first time.

 

Obviously. Because it's not possible to be a sane, sensible human being, and think differently than you. It's certainly not possible to, oh, I don't know, like different games than you, or like different aspects of games...

So let's call people morons if they don't subscribe to our point of view. Yes indeed.

(Yes, I loved HL1 and 2, but come on, calling people morons? That is possible the most moronic post I've seen today)

 

You're just to young to know how good first HL was. I was little older than you now when HL was released and I can tell you : it was a REVOLUTION. Believe or not but actually there were good pc games BEFORE you were born.

@ Jalf : I guess you're right but saying that HL sucks cause it graphics sucks sounds a little absurdly. Maybe we should say that Doom 2 sucks cause it's visuals are sooooo baaaad.

 

Halflife looked amazing when it came out. Really, those graphics (and particularly the NPC's animations) was just one step ahead of the competition.

 

Yeah I remember playing the demo of Half Life 1 and being completely blown away. The character animations were just brilliant, no more blocky arms and legs attached to a cuboid in the middle, everything joined up, they had joints. It was fabulous.

And then the Special Forces arrived. I'd never seen AI like this before, each time I played the demo they would never use the same tactics twice. They'd flank around different boxes, suddenly launch a grenade at me, they would talk to each other over their walkie talkies, letting me in on their plans. Most FPS's had AI that just ran at you down a long corridor, running into a stream of my gunfire. The only way to make the game harder was to send more enemies at you, not in HL1. A handful of Black Ops assasins hiding in the shadows presented more challenge than most games at the time.

Sure it looks awful now, its 8 years old. Many people think "so what" about the enemy AI, the character animations, the storyline, since every FPS that has followed it has tried to copy the game so that every FPS has just tried to become a Half Life clone. For me it will always be the finest FPS made.*

*(until they make a Jedi Knight game with Havok physics and a Wii controller of course!!)

 

Half Life was very good for its day. I like the game a lot. Nice story. For the time the graphics were amazing and every FPS seemed like it tried to copy that

 

BTW : I'm thinking about download HL:Source from Steam. Will see what this game has to offer...again

 

I dont really think it looks awful today, even. Sure, it's low-poly with low-res textures and crappy lighting, but the art fits well together and creates a coherent style that still works. There's nothing that looks out of place, or really reminds you that "It's not a world, it's just a bunch of resources made by a handful of artists". Some games have art that just doesnt fit together (EQ2 would be a good example. It really looks like the characters and landscapes are made by different artist teams using different tools and rendered in different engines). Games like that look bad no matter how modern their graphics are. On the other hand, I think stuff like Halflife looks good even today, because, well, the graphics just work. The characters might be blocky, but that's because they live in a blocky world. In my opinion that's better than having characters that look good in isolation, but just dont fit into the world they're placed in.

Oh yeah, and HL: Source was a big disappointment from what I've heard. Exact same graphics, with prettier explosions and water effects.
I havent played it, but I suspect I might actually prefer the old graphics for the above reason. Modern explosions would look out of place in the HL world with old low-poly characters walking around in grainy-textured rooms.
Just like the hi-res textures they added in Blue Shift. Looked like crap because it didn't fit in.

 

It would help to spell correctly in the title of this thread. I'm not trying to be the gramm3r p0liCe, but just a note on my behalf.

 

I've never played hl1 and I never will. All I know is that HL2 is a great game. and the upcoming HL2 episodes are going to be great.

If it weren't for the phisics the game would be nothing.

 

I hope you're joking

 

Wow I dont know how you can say that. I played about half of HL:Source, after I played and beat HL2. Yeah I stoped because I missed all the physics and all the cool and interesting things you could do in HL2. But that dosent mean I dont think its a great game. Yeah now it looks like crap compared to current games. But back in the day Half Life was revolutionary. And HL2 isnt only good because of the physics. Its got an amazing story line, great combat, great team/squad play that is actually really fun to do. Yeah the physics supplement the game, and alot of the puzzles wouldnt be possible in game without them. But the physics is just a supplemant to a good game, and helped make it a great game.

 

well yes, its very true. Valve said this. They believe that upcoming games should be focused around phisics. that is why they are releasing "Portal".

Sure there's some great gameplay in there but still. "Ravenholm" is a great chapter of HL2, and It is all about phisics. throwing sawblades, stacking stuff up to get somewhere.

Havok and source have made HL2 what it is.

Back in the day, I never had a chance to play HL1

Haven't you ever played Gmod? it's all about HL2's phisics.

 

Saying something sucks doesn't mean you simply dislike it. It's not even worded in a way that it's an opinion, but as fact. Such a statement goes against the millions of people and countless publications that have purchased and put HL1 on the all time best games list.

If i had worded it differently, for example, "anyone who dislikes half life is a moron," then maybe your respose would make more sense, but i didn't. i still stand by my claim that i couldn't imagine anybody with basic gaming knowledge to stand there simply say, "Half Life sucks" without any reason.


And about HL1's graphics. They don't look that great today, but a lot of games (*cough oblivion) still haven't even been able to match it's lip synching and level design.

 

this is a pointless argument, if the original half life was a new release today, it still wouldnt suck, the graphics would be really dated, and it would be missing the benefits of modern tech, but it would still be a fun immersive game, you can render a turd, and run all the shaders to give it the sheen and corn , add some "phisics" (its physics by the way) to make it splash ,bob,and leave a little particle trail on the side of the bowl, just like its your own after your morning coffee, and it would still just be a virtual turd, the original half life was a landmark game, and its breakthroughs were mostly in gameplay elements over window dressing

 

Going back to play HL1 after playing HL2 is doing both games a disservice.

As someone who played HL1 when it came out in spring 1998 (on my p-166 with 8M onboard ATI!); it will always be the best game i've ever played. Nothing in the last 8 years even comes close to the revolution Half-Life started.
Every FPS since wishes it were HL.

 

Yes, saying something sucks is a statement of opinion, not fact. At least here on Planet Real World.
And even if it was stated as a fact, what difference would it make?

"Millions of people can't be wrong"?
Then what about the billions of people who have never heard of Halflife?
What about the millions of people who once thought Hitler was a cool guy?
Does that mean Hitler was a cool guy? Millions of people and countless publications have put him on an all times best list too. So f'ing what?

That wasn't your claim, and you did word it differently. Let me refresh your memory a bit:

Where's the bit about "without any reason", or "who has basic gaming knowledge"?
In fact, where's the part about "- and who means it as a statement of fact rather than opinion"?

Your claim was pretty simple. If anyone thinks (thinks, as in believes, holds the opinion) that Half-Life sucks, they are morons. Where is the part about "I couldn't imagine". In fact, the above conveniently forgets the "moron" part.
These two statements have *nothing* to do with each others. Way to "stand by your claim".

 

I think "one who lacks knowledge" would qualify as a meaning for moron.

This argument isn't going to go anywhere. I don't want to argue over fallacies that are assumed to be made in our posts. I accept that you think i made a moronic statement. I disagree, so can we just leave it at that?

 

I think....this thread simply needs to continue on as a discusion, and not an arguement of what is right or wrong. Whether you think something is good, bad, or ugly, is your opinion, but if you state it as a fact, then it makes you look foolish and offends the people around you who think otherwise.

Nothing to see here, move along...

 

I've never been able to get into either HL1 or 2. Played on my bro's HL2 account..nope. Can't see the adoration? Just that nothing stood out for me

*ducks for cover*

Re poll, *hate* is a strong word. More indifferent

 

hl1 was alot of fun for me. Wasnt my favorite FPS game but hey many hours of fun had come from the game.

 

In their respective time when they were released, they were both the best games. Played HL1 back then, it was awesome. Played HL2 a year ago, it was awesome. Hard to compare the two but IMO I loved both.

 

I do not like any of the HL series.

I prefer military oriented shooters.

 

The end of HL2, end of EP1 are very militia/military/squad orented. Most of EP2 looks the same, as an organized fight is finally taken to the combine. I understand what your saying, you may like BF2 more. Im just saying that HL has its share of military combat.

 

It really doesn't matter what you think about the Half-Life franchise. But one thing is for certain: Valve Software has something very good going for them. In my opinion, they are the leaders when it comes to developing and presenting a First Person Shooter. Their use of dynamic music, a mysterious lead man, and a rich storyline are all good in my book. You can't talk about FPS's without talking about Half-Life, just like you can't talk about RTS without mentioning Age of Empires somewhere along the line.

All the great Mods for the franchise just increase its overall appeal. Valve has always supported such creations, and the community is vibrant and rich for it.
Valve took a great concept from iD Software (FPS) and put their permanent, unique stamp on it. Can you say WASD?

 

man i havent posted here in while but i tink HL1 is better than HL2 in gameplay
the puzzles are a lot more complicated and the expansion opposing force gives a better story,but cocerning opposing force is it true adrian shepard is making a come back in HL2 episode 2

 

Well its the cinematic quality that I feel draws people in. The opening scene in HL1 when the credits are rolling was fantastic and a real teaser. However, the potential of staleness also exists especially if they keep overexposing it.

 

I think HL1 was a great game... and spawned an even better one... HL2!

 

Hehehe. I remember when I though the zombies in HL1 were scary. The graphics of HL1 pales in comparison with HL2, HL2EP1, and HL2EP2.

 

i am asking the question i meant to ask at the begining of the thread

if u played HL2 before u played HL1,Whould u play HL1 and like it?

and off the topic is Adrian Shepard from HL1 opposing force making a come back in HL2 episode 2

 

That's a hard question to ask but I would say in this specific case, yes. The problem with playing a sequel first is that the design of the game is usally outdated compared to the sequel. On the other hand, if the storyline and characterizations are great in the sequel then I can see myself going back to the first of the series.

 

Iv started a new Half life thread which might be interesting
Half life opposing force challlenge

 

ahhhhh teh days when id hear that opening noise *dummmm...dummmm* and id get so **** excited. *thought bubble appears above head* .........imagines for a few seconds.......*runs upstairs to get original CD*

but to be honest...i couldnt find that same tension, excitement and longing while playing HL2. was more like.....shoot...breeze...shoot more...breeze more. now im gonna ask you all a question? how many times did save during half life 1 on HARD mode? i mean like....first time i played it on hard, i saved EVERY few minutes...soemtimes seconds even!! it was thaaat good! thats one thing i rememebr the most! ahh...surface tension..ohoh..and the helicopter..and the GI's popping out while ur running away from the copter and everything jsut going nutzoid and you jsut spraying bullets everywhere!

ohohoh..ive never played opposign force...i just couldnt get it from anywhere! id abseloutly love to play it now!! if anyone knows..please please tell me where from!

and to answer ibmps3cell yup! went back to HL1 after playing HL2 and was mezmerised! and yes, thats when i realised that i prefer HL1.

and people..please please stop comparing the games GRAPHICALLY...thats like..stating the bleeding obvious and bashing over it!

keep this going...anyone have any favourite parts of both games..if yes. please...love to hear them!