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    i5-520m vs i7-720qm for Starcraft 2

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by KingCrab, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. KingCrab

    KingCrab Newbie

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    I'm buying a dell laptop for Starcraft 2 and I'm trying to decide on my processor. I need to choose between:

    i5-520M 2.40GHz (2.93Ghz Turbo Mode, 3M cache)
    and
    i7-720QM Quad Core Processor 1.6GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache)

    Money isn't an issue since the price between the two is similar. I'd prefer whichever will run faster. I don't know if I should pay more attention to the turbo mode speed, the GHz the Cache or the Quad core for running games like starcraft.

    I'd also hope to use it for Fallout Vegas, Portal 2, Diablo 3, and GW2 if and when they come out.

    (Additional question: would it benefit me to pay extra for 6GB memory instead of the usual 4GB, or will the kind of games I'm interested in run to their best capacity with 4GB ram?)
     
  2. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Is there a particular reason you have chosen Dell over... other laptops? If you are interested in gaming then there are many other brands to consider.
     
  3. Tyo

    Tyo Notebook Deity

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    what's your budget, what you want out of the laptop, size ?
    maybe members here can help you with better choice than dell....doesn't hurt to try :)
     
  4. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    For Starcraft 2 go for an i7 quad.

    Additional question's answer: no, not today, maybe in a year or two.
     
  5. Baka

    Baka (・ω・)

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    4GB should be enough for anything right now. For SC2, it should benefit from Quad Core.

    But you mention the price being quite similar. Are the GPUs for both of them the same?
     
  6. KingCrab

    KingCrab Newbie

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    Thanks so much for the information! For the response questions:

    1. I honestly don't know what GPU is. They're both studio 17s. The prices are not the same, but they're within a hundred dollars of each other so I'd rather go with whichever of the two is faster (for such a small difference in price.)
    2. As for why I want a dell, I don't know much about computers but I had a pretty good experience with my last dell laptop. It lasted a long time and never gave me any troubles, so I'd prefer to try them again.
     
  7. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Studio 17 has a HD5650 option. That's the highest which will be able to play SCII. If want a faster gpu and a lighter chassis then consider a MSI GX640/740 equivalent:

    US$1200 17" MSI MS-1651-ID4 i7-720M 16 4GB 500GB HD5850 W7HP 1680x1050
    US$1130 17" MSI E7405-080US i5-430M 2.26 4GB 500GB HD5870 W7HP 1680x1050 + ~ US$260 i7-720QM from ebay.
     
  8. Tyo

    Tyo Notebook Deity

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  9. KingCrab

    KingCrab Newbie

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    Okay just realized GPU meant graphics card. The two graphics cards were different indeed (which is probably why the two were so close in price even though one was an i7). The difference was:

    1GB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 560v Video Card (with the i7)
    vs
    ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650, 1GB with TV Tuner (with the i5)

    I believe the 5650 is a better card which explains what is going on with the price.
     
  10. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    Good thing you're here.

    In another post on here I recall someone citing information saying that SC2 doesn't utilize quad core as well as it should. I'll look for it.
     
  11. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    bry223 Newbie

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    I'm running SC2 on a i5-520m and a ATI 5650 on high settings @ 1600X900 res and it runs smooth as butter. It does slow down a bit during huge massive battles, and I mean HUGE battles but besides that its very smooth.
     
  13. KingCrab

    KingCrab Newbie

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    Thanks so much for the advice and info. I guess as a last question, if choosing between:

    i5-520M 2.40GHz (2.93Ghz Turbo Mode, 3M cache) with
    ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650, 1GB

    and

    i7-720QM Quad Core Processor 1.6GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache) with
    1GB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 560v Video Card

    and all other things including price pretty much the same, which might be a better option for gaming? (I'll be trying to play Starcraft, Diablo, Guild Wars 2, Portal 2, etc.) I know the 560v is basically the same as a 4650 which is not supposed to be too hot for gaming, but the i7 is tempting too.
     
  14. osomphane

    osomphane Notebook Evangelist

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    If you want to be able to play stacraft 2 smoothly (as well as the future games you mentioned at decent quality and performance), go for the MSI GX740. It's graphics card is vastly better. Though, anything with an ati 5870 will do like the ASUS G73 (careful with GSODs on this one), sagers, clevos, or Alienware m17x.
     
  15. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    ^^ second that. Price wise - Sager/Clevo
     
  16. Retto

    Retto Notebook Evangelist

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    pricewise is the MSI lol.
     
  17. Tyo

    Tyo Notebook Deity

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    Sager 7110 in 17'' is good in price aswell
     
  18. lewdvig

    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Its well established that SC2 only uses two cores. Four (Eight virtual) cores may be overkill for this specific game.
     
  19. Megacharge

    Megacharge Custom User Title

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    If that's the case then that's pretty pathetic, as a game like this would benefit from the 2 extra cores.
     
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    lord_monkey Notebook Enthusiast

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    what do you mean with "GSODs" ?
     
  21. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Then why do all 4 cores stay very active on a 720QM if it doesn't use more than 2?
     
  22. bchreng

    bchreng Notebook Evangelist

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    Any chance we'll see a patch somewhere down the road that'll allow SC2 to make use of all 4?
     
  23. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    ^
    Most likely not. Blizzard is a cater to the masses company, and the masses use dual core and single gpu. WoW is an example of that.

    Plus, some idiots will complain that the extra cores give an advantage. Which is a load of house but blizzard would listen.
     
  24. electrosoft

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    It's confirmed SC II is dual core optimized.

    Here is an extensive benchmark comparison (CPU and GPU):

    Starcraft 2 CPU benchmarks: Intel on top, quads without performance benefit - - PC Games Hardware

    Quote:

    "First point: Starcraft 2 doesn't take advantage of more than two cores, so the Core 2 Quad Q6600 isn't faster than its dual core equivalent Core 2 Duo E6600. Second point: More cache boosts the framerate. "

    This correlates to the early benchmarking done with the BETA here: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,...CPU-benchmarks-x-Core-i5/i7-leading/Practice/

    In the end, two cores running as fast as possible with as much cache as possible is the optimum setup for SC II.

    Laptop wise, a 920xm or 940xm with 8mb of cache and throttlestop allowing dual cores to run at 3.2/3.33 is the killer config for SC II.

    This is followed by a 640M (when available), 840QM, 620M
     
  25. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    That all depends on the percentage being used on each Core.