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    more graphic memory? or better card?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by wannaberacer, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. wannaberacer

    wannaberacer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Im currently looking at two computers

    the n80vn-x5 with geforce 9650m gt with 1gig

    the g50vt-x5 with geforce 9800mgs 512mb ddr3

    I don't really know what the advantages are for either of these cards.
    is the 9800 really that much better?
    will one have significantly better battery life over the other?

    thanks for your help.
     
  2. nacr05

    nacr05 Extreme Overclocker

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    The 9800m GS will smack the crap out of the 9650m GT

    The 9650m GT only has a Memory Bus Width of 128 bit while the 9800m GS has 256 bit..

    9800m GS is a class 1 card The 9650m GT is a class 2 card...

    The 9650m GT will give you better battery life due to the low wattage, The 9800m GS will give you much better preformance but less battery life..

    Hope that helped..
     
  3. Tinselworm

    Tinselworm Notebook Deity

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    as above, the 9800 will kill the 9650
     
  4. ahl395

    ahl395 Ahlball

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    as both above, yeah.

    A better GPU is always better than more VRAM. ;)
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    The 9800m GS will walk all over two 9650m GT.
     
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    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    Eh, it'd walk with 2 of em. Or maybe it wouldn't, the config doesn't exist anyway :p
     
  7. MonkeyMhz

    MonkeyMhz Notebook Evangelist

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    9800M would be like a grizzly bear taking a bite out of a rabbit (9650m).

    So unless you want a fluffy white tail and a lot of lag, get the 9800M.
     
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    KernalPanic White Knight

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    True, unless you need the lesser price or the lower power consumption of the 9650, the 9800m GS is a better choice.

    While this is better... it doesn't mean anything to someone asking this question.

    The 9800m GS will handle higher resolutions and more detailed textures better and faster due to more lanes on its "highway" back and forth from its onboard graphics RAM.

    Note the 9650m is a solid card, and works well for 1280x1204 or 1440x900 and medium textures, but more than that and the Memory Bus hinders the 9650 pretty seriously.

    Again, this is meaningless for someone asking this question as it is a proprietary way of labeling things.

    The 9800m GS also has many more shader units and thus has a lot more raw horsepower than the 9650 can ever muster.

    It is designed for higher resolutions and more detailed textures, but takes more power and creates more heat when in use. It is usually also more expensive.


    Correct

    The easy answer is as implied in earlier posts.... if price is the same or your budget allows, get the 9800m GS if gaming is a priority and battery life is not as high on the list.
     
  9. ahl395

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    lmao.... Yeah. :D :D :p :p :rolleyes:
     
  10. unknown555525

    unknown555525 rawr

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    The AMOUNT of video memory is only high on the 9650 because of people like yourself, most people think it's the amount of video memory that determines the power of a card, and are tricked into buying something FAR weaker just because it has alot of memory. The truth is the 9650m GT could have 1000GB of video memory, and it still wouldn't be as fast as the 9800m GS with even 256mb.

    If your intent is gaming, and that's what it looks like, go for the 9800m GS and completely disregard the amount of memory either have.
     
  11. mobius1aic

    mobius1aic Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Well actually 1 GB of VRAM is useful for video editing, and alot of low end video cards good for video editing level purposes have alot of RAM for that reason.

    But back on topic, yes the 9800GS is the one to go for if gaming is your ultimate deciding factor. The 9650 is a good mobile GPU never the less, but it's about *half* as powerful as the 9800GS.
     
  12. wannaberacer

    wannaberacer Notebook Enthusiast

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    wow thanks for that guys.
    learned allot here.
    didn't make my decision any easier though.
    I liked the n80 because it's a 14.1 and I will probably be toting this computer around quite a bit and imo it looks allot better than the g50 x5
    I hate that flashy gamer extreme stuff, looks like a nerf gun.
    still having the 9800 would kick , does battery life really suffer that much?
     
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    If you don't mind the extra $, you can get the Asus N81 with Ati 4650.
     
  14. mobius1aic

    mobius1aic Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah that thing is awesome, even I'd kinda rather have that than my G50, since the games most important to me would run perfect on it :D Plus it's got a better CPU ;)
     
  15. LisuPoland

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    Yea well I have 9650 GT with 1 GB of DD2 memory myself and as mobius1aic already said above it isn't exacly a way to fool people to buy card's with more memory. IMO not only it helps with video editing, but also games that have very large textures or have mods that improve textures size in the games over standard ones benefit from the additional ram on the card

    Thanks to that 1 GB of memory on the card I can run Crysis with all textures on high with no problems
     
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  18. KernalPanic

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    The 9650 is a decent GPU... no arguement there... it just doesn't really compare with the 9800m GS in any way right now though.

    You can find it in laptops under $900... so I think we can all agree that isn't ultra-high-end. Most 9650m 1GB implementatins I have seen are actually similarly-price or even more expensive for considerably less real-world performance.

    The only real downside the 9800m GS has right now is power and cooling requirements (and thus lower battery life and usually a 15" chassis).

    Unless you require a 14" laptop or long battery life, the 9650m really doesn't compete.
     
  19. LisuPoland

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    yea I think the same, but I like the fact that my 9650m never goes above 70 degrees and thus I don't have to worry about overheating :) and ofcourse plays all games nicely :) So I imagine what twice more powerful 9800m can handle :)