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    my OC'd 8600m GT just got me a 5000+ 3DMark score

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cinner, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. Cinner

    Cinner Notebook Evangelist

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    Here's the deal: Macbook Pro 17" 2.4 Ghz with 2GB Ram and an Nvida 8600m GT 256MB DDR3 videocard. Overclocked to:

    Core - 665 MHz (default is 520 MHz)
    Memory - 860 MHz (default is 650 MHz)

    Overclocked with Rivatuner 2.04 and old Bootcamp driver (101.34). This gives me a 3DMark '06 score of 5123! Temperatures seem good - never above 81 degrees.

    See the picture for my results :)

    [​IMG]
     
  2. bigspin

    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    Cool results!!!!
     
  3. Asmodan

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    wow...

    /drool

    and i thought my 3.4k score was good :)

    im afraid to overclock though
     
  4. Cinner

    Cinner Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes I thought so! :) I ran the benchmark in the default settings btw (1280x1024 resolution).
     
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    Hmmm....I dont think this is possible. That means the 8600gt is as powerful as a 7950gtx...something is not right.
     
  6. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    why do i think that that score is with 1024x768...
    rather than the default 1280x1024....

    if thats the case, please post the 1280x1024 default resolution test scores.
     
  7. chonga

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    the 3dmark benchmark is not necessarily a true indicator of in game performance, so i wouldn't go so far as to saying it's as powerful as the 7950gtx
     
  8. niemassacre

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    I can believe it, I get around 4000 with standard clocked 162.18 drivers on my 2.4 GHz MBP, and I think Apple underclocks the card a bit. So if you were willing to overclock it, I could see how you could, possibly, get that high - though it DOES seem quite substantial.
     
  9. Gophn

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    like I said... I think the score is misleading....

    since its probably a score from a 1024x768 test.
    ... NOT the default 1280x1024 score (in which mos people use to compare there scores)
     
  10. niemassacre

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    What is, generally, the difference between a 1024x768 score and a 1280x1024 score? Is there a standard-ish % increase?
     
  11. The Forerunner

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    That is highly improbable. An 8600 with 600/900 and a more powerful cpu then yours got about 4600 at default res.
     
  12. NewLapTopUser

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    Man thats higher than my 7950gtx :D Is there any way to overclock a 7950gtx to get higher performance? There seems to me no mention of a OC for the 7950gtx
     
  13. odin243

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    Yeah, the OP's at 665/860 with a mobile processor, it certainly seems doubtful at 1280x1024. At 1024x768 it's more likely, as the record there is 5600.
     
  14. bigspin

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    Let's hope this guy saying truth not like 725/725 8600M GT OC guy :D
     
  15. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    lol at least this time we saw the actual screenshots
     
  16. Lithus

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    We really gotta stop these threads. I'm really tired of everyone comparing e-peni. If i said that my GPU gets a 20 gagillion in 3DMark98325409, while running in a liquid nitrogen tank, what good does that do anyone else? Same thing with me going "lair!!! I bet your pants are on fire!"
     
  17. Mimino

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    none, it just a good way to boost ur ego
     
  18. bigspin

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    Yes...but no clue about resolution :err:

    :tongue:
     
  19. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Man, will you stop pulling attention to him? Trolls thrive on attention. Ignore him, and hopefully he'll get banned.
     
  21. Mimino

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    u never know...maybe he's the next bill gates of hardware....
     
  22. bigspin

    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    I'm sure Bill Gates will hire him.:tongue: :biggrin:

    He's going to be a next genius or Thomas Edison :swoon:
     
  23. Cinner

    Cinner Notebook Evangelist

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    What part of "I ran the benchmark in the default settings btw (1280x1024 resolution)" don't you understand? ;)
     
  24. odin243

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    He said we have no clue because you failed to provide the result screenshot that includes the resolution the test was done at. Some fail to believe that score could be achieved with those clocks at default resolution. Could you provide a screenie that includes the resolution the test was taken at? That would dispel many of the doubts.
     
  25. Cinner

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    I would, but I can't seem the find the used resolution in the benchmark results, so how would I prove it?
     
  26. odin243

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    After you run the benchmark, you should see a screen that looks something like this:
    [​IMG]

    That screenshot includes the resolution the test was taken at under Settings.
     
  27. Cinner

    Cinner Notebook Evangelist

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    Allright, I ran the test again but it will only show my results online, not in 3DMark itself. I guess that's because I have the free version. Anyhow, here you can see my settings after the test completed.

    [​IMG]
     
  28. joebusby

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    Skilled troll is skilled.
     
  29. adolfotregosa

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    guys, 5000+ at 1280*1024 should be correct at that clocks.

    offtopic :
    Personal record 3mark 2006 - 6023 - XP - 1024*768 - 165.01
    Vista - 1280 * 1024 - 4780 (don't rememnber drivers)

    My only problem is that I and probably everybody that OC , can run a 3dmark without problems since the benchmark last what, 8 min ?? and 2 or 3min of then are on the cpu! And the test is between the SM2 and SM3 benchmarks so the GPU has time to cool down a bit, so you have more or less 5min at top on the GPU.

    My consern here is 100% stable. I do not need higher 3dmark scores, but want to have a OC and play without problems for 5 ou 6 hours not 5 min. I've been struggling with atitool to find the 100% stable mark and I found it.

    I did not saw until last night that the shadders work by steps; The poblem with that table is that is does not include shaders bellow 1188 :(

    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=238083

    Set core | Resultant frequency
    frequency | Core Shader
    ---------------------------------
    509-524 | 513 1188
    525-526 | 513 1242
    527-547 | 540 1242
    548-553 | 540 1296
    554-571 | 567 1296
    572-584 | 576 1350
    585-594 | 594 1350
    595-603 | 594 1404
    604-616 | 612 1404
    617-617 | 621 1404
    618-634 | 621 1458
    635-641 | 648 1458
    642-661 | 648 1512
    662-664 | 675 1512
    665-679 | 675 1566
    680-687 | 684 1566
    688-692 | 684 1620
    693-711 | 702 1620
    712-724 | 720 1674
    725-734 | 729 1674
    735-742 | 729 1728
    743-757 | 756 1728

    Problems - since the 8600 comes stock with 1:2 ratio , e.g. (STOCK) 475core 950shader, so (1:2) ratio. That means that the maximum gpu will be cut by the maximum shader. The maximum gpu is 564 that gives the "112x " shader step, at 566 you have "113x" and that's a step above (i see this with rivatuner) and atitool 3dview after some minutes of running crashes my card giving desktop artifacts.
    The funny is that I can play hours @ 580 / 1160 but once again atitools 3dview crashes my card. It's the only think that crashes the card at that clocks. At 600 / 1200 you have the shaders on another step and this time hours of gaming crashes the card , but 3dmark runs quite well LLOOLL

    The problem here is not temps but shaders limits. Atitool 100% stable 564/112X , not atitool stable but gaming stable 580/116x

    To finish. I was allerted that nibitor has VID (voltage) editor, and indeed it has, but I did not see a single gain about it. I changed vcore values and at least i was expecting different temps but no, so it seams that we are vcore stucked.
     
  30. Mimino

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    lol so true. how come u got scores in the first post but not the second?
    i also never got how people openly lie about some stuff that never happened. use ur imagination in a different way.
     
  31. odin243

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    What are you guys talking about? His first post was the online score result, which doesn't list resolution. The second post makes it clear he has the free version (and the free version won't show you the score until you submit it online), which would only run at 1280x1024 on his monitor anyhow, so it certainly appears that his results were indeed achieved at 1280x1024, just like he originally claimed.
     
  32. Mimino

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    oh, my bad, thought those were the actual scores, not the online ones. my apologies
     
  33. Scavar

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    Everyone's so impressed with all these scores, my desktop gets over 12000, but you don't see me going around talking about it.


    Why does anyone care about 3DMark? Only thing I think it's good for is burn in test. Have it running for a few hours everything as high as it goes.


    Now if he had said "Hey look I've got Half-Life 3 running at 200FPS" and a video. That would be cool.



    Also, I'd say he's telling the truth, doesn't have any reason to be lying about it and nothing looks out of place in any of his screenshots.
     
  34. Thomas

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    This is an overclocked card & and overclocking helps it a lot.
    Nice results!
     
  35. Mimino

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    true, but some people just feel the need to show their pee-pee's to the online community like ours.
     
  36. Cinner

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    Some of you guys are really suspicious aren't you? :D 'Trolling' these forums is the least of my intentions (look up my other posts). I thought most members liked these kind of results. I'm not posting to make myself feel better about my purchase or something like that. Just trying to show the 8600 GT has some good overclocking potential, and can easily be clocked to the same speeds as it's bigger brother, the 8700 GT. That's all really.

    Now if only the latest drivers could be overclocked, that would make these results even better :eek:
     
  37. Mimino

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    yeah, man, i wasn't specifically referring to ur persona, but a lot of people doing it just because. nice results, congrats. the thing is, u got a ddr3 version of the card, ur clock were already better, to begin with :)
     
  38. odin243

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    The latest drivers should be overclockable with Rivatuner 2.04, though you might have to do some custom INF modding.
     
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    That's the ORB comparison, that's not the page you see when you submit your results.
     
  41. KiwiBoy

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    Is it possible to uninstall a full version of 3dmark06, then install the basic edition. Run it, and then put the serial code back it to make it full edition again??
    I dunno, I remain suspicious of this result, until I see the resolution with the score on the same screenshot, I won't believe this.
     
  42. Ifrin

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    But that's the way to avoiding discussions like that-by posting links to ORB's.
    I don't trust screenshots-there's many thing you can do with them...
     
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    Is there any guides to OC a 7950gtx??? :D I see no guide in this before..As is usually runs at 59 degrees full load i figure i could overclock it. Just for the fun of it
     
  44. odin243

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    What do you mean a "guide" ? You overclock it pretty much just like any other GPU.
     
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    I mean like what is the usual core speed and memory speed than can be overclocked etc :D And how to actually overclock with rivatuner
     
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    I think it might be true, i'm trying to get to that score on my 15.4 t61p
    I did try to match OP settings but the card gave out even though the temps never went very high
    Core - 632MHz (default is 475 MHz)
    Memory - 820 MHz (default is 702 MHz)
    [​IMG]
    This is as far as i can push it any higher and 3dmark wont even run it and yet my temps never went above 75c so i am rather curious how OP got his score.
    Core - 642 MHz (default is 475 MHz)
    Memory - 840 MHz (default is 702 MHz)
    [​IMG]
     
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    wow... 5000? my 7900gs didnt even get that on a crappy venice core
     
  48. Cinner

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    Did you take in consideration my/your CPU score? I have a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, what about you?

    I wasn't able to duplicate my first test run (with core 665 MHz) without getting artifact by the way. I don't know why. So I ran it at 660 MHz (5 MHz slower) the second time and that went well. 3DMark score was lowered by a good 100 points (still 5000+ though). Also did some gaming at that speed succesfully, allthough I haven't played for a few hours non stop yet.
     
  49. Cinner

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    Another board member was kind enough to offer me his 3D Mark Pro key, just so I could take the following screenshot showing my test results + settings. Hopefully that's enough 'evidence' for everyone, and if not, so be it. I'm not running that damn test again :D

    I have lowered my overclock settings by 5 MHz because I couldn't duplicate the original settings without artifacts in 3D Mark. That's why the score is a little lower:

    [​IMG]

    I used Paint to save the screenshot btw. I did not use it to edit my results :rolleyes:
     
  50. Cinner

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    I don't think that's going to work (tried it before and failed with several recent drivers). Since which recent driver can you overclock, and what INF modding needs to be performed? I'm really curious!
     
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