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    nVIDIA GeForce Driver v365.19 Findings & Fixes

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by thegh0sts, May 13, 2016.

  1. Jakamo5

    Jakamo5 Tetra Vaal

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    been running -155mv undervolt on cpu for a couple months with no issues. upgraded to 365.19 tonight and during dota 2 I got a lockup and hardboot from the undervolt. I can't imagine gpu drivers would have affected cpu stable undervolt, so maybe its just coincidence (or maybe increased ambient room temps as the weather is getting warmer here). figured i'd post the anomaly anyway
     
  2. D2 Ultima

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    Drivers and OS have been known to affect overclocking ability (and undervolting ability comes with that). -155mV is rather large; maybe it was on the verge of stability and the drivers just kind of threw it over the edge.

    Or your silicon might've just degraded a bit.
     
  3. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    well well, unbelieveable, but seems like its time to finally upgrade from 359.06 :)

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
  4. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Go to 362.00, that is the gold standard IMO..
     
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  5. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    362 was the gold standard but I still got the occasional TDR with it. I haven't had a single TDR with 365.19 and its beating down my 780 Ti more than I've ever thrown at it before. DSR was never stable so I never used it but now everything is being scaled to the absolute max before the framerate goes under 60.
     
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  6. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    what is TDR bro? educate me please
     
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  7. D2 Ultima

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    Timeout Detection Recovery, I think. I might be wrong, but it means the GPU stopped sending signals in a properly timed manner for whatever reason and the driver killed and restarted the process, essentially. It's sort of like a driver crash without the driver actually crashing, but has the same effect. Overclocking too high can cause that. Sometimes the driver'll plain crash and recover too, it looks like a TDR. It'll break Flash content in your browser as well; sometimes you might have a TDR and not even notice.

    As far as I can see so far, 365.19 might be the new golden baby.

    Edit: I might be wrong on what TDR stands for and am too lazy to google it. I'm correct in what it functionally is.
     
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  8. Ashtrix

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    Dota2 Just got an update for Vulkan support, and 365.19 is the minimum requirement for Nvidia cards, beta stage with quirks.

    Minimum requirements:
    - Windows 7/8/10 64-bit: NVIDIA 600-series+ (365.19+ driver), AMD 7700+ (Crimson 16.5.2.1+ driver)
    - Linux 64-bit: NVIDIA 600-series+ (364.16+ driver), AMD GCN 1.2 (16.20.3 driver)
    - 2GB of GPU memory required - may experience crashes with < 2GB of GPU memory.

    * The first time you run with Vulkan you may experience short stutters while the engine caches shaders on disk. After playing through or watching a match, these stutters should go away.

    * There is a known issue on Linux with NVIDIA GPUs where tearing can be observed even when vertical sync is enabled. NVIDIA is aware of the issue and it will be fixed in the future through a driver update.

    * Please file any bugs with the Vulkan version at https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota-2-Vulkan/issues/
     
  9. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    If 365.19 is all I need for Vulkan support in games, I'm good.
     
  10. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Exactly. TDR is tripped when the GPU stops responding for I believe 2 seconds. Instead of a BSOD, the driver is killed and re-initialized when the kernel detects this. If it happens too many times in a row, you get a BSOD and if it is disabled, you get a BSOD as well.
     
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  11. ratinox

    ratinox Notebook Deity

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    nVidia just pushed 368.22 with updates for Overwatch, World of Tanks and War Thunder.
     
  12. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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  13. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Ok it worked.

    So did the Monster Hunter bench.

    3DMark benches all crash for some reason.

    Oh well.

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    nice driver, just updated to it and saw a slight fs score boost during a quick bench :) lets see how it fares long term...
     
  15. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    The image is broken but I'm glad you got it to work. Don't know what is up with 3DMark but they've made some changes that are really annoying like having to add everything as DLC if you got it from Steam. I paid for Advanced, I shouldn't have to jump through a million hoops to be able to use it.
     
  16. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Ah yeah I know... I have 3DMark products on Steam too... it's insane

    New link. Try it. Fixed the previous one too.
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    That one works. And yeah I'm thinking about looking up my original key and getting the standalone version. I bought 3DMark11, 3DMark,and Catzilla outside of Steam so maybe my keys will still work.
     
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    Deleted for now.
     
  19. sagarbhathwar

    sagarbhathwar Notebook Consultant

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    Currently running 353.54 from Dell for my GTX 970M (AW 17 R3)

    Is it safe to upgrade to 365.19? Any problems on Alienware?

    Thanks
     
  20. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    362.00 and 365.19 is one of the golden drivers.
     
  21. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Anyone use VMware? I'm having TDRs with VMware Workstation Player. This driver works flawlessly otherwise so I'm thinking its a VMware issue. I mean I even ran Star Swarm extreme today and to my amazement my 780 Ti was boosting the entire time, mostly up to 1149MHz but a drop down to 1136MHz here and there so I still stand behind these being golden drivers, I just might have to switch to VirtualBox when I want to play around with Linux. Not a big deal.
     
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    I use VMware Workstation, no issues at all.
     
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  23. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    It may well be a Player vs Workstation issue since full graphics acceleration isn't in the free player version. I'll grab Workstation and test that.
     
  24. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Switching to Workstation didn't work. Even in Windows 7, as soon as I go to the system rating and it fires up the DX9 test I get a TDR. Oh well, I don't use VMs often anyway.
     
  25. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    So, I can confirm that these drivers have dropped my CPU temps. 7-10c on average. Down from 87c in Overwatch to ~77c, with a peak at 80c sometimes (likely when my CPU spikes due to something else on my PC).

    This is with chrome and around 45 tabs open in the background + teamspeak + steam + playclaw for monitoring (my Action! license got denied sadly. It was a giveaway of the day thing and apparently someone shared it; it worked for about 2 months).

    Even in some other games, temperatures are just lower. I'm glad. Sadly since installing them my CPU usage spikes on loading windows for about 3 minutes, and I cannot figure out why, but it's not a massive issue for me honestly. I've specifically checked out every single service that is doing it, and I can't find anything I could safely disable.
     
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    I think maybe some other issue, most of us here at NBR have no issues with this release.
    Except for the non BGA Alienwares with 120Hz can't boot, downgrade to 60Hz is a must.
     
  27. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Didn't @thegh0sts say he could boot on this driver? If so, then 120Hz alienware booting is fixed, right?
     
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  28. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I could though i am on windows 10.
     
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  29. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    That shouldn't have anything to do with it, should it?
     
  30. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    your guess is as good as mine - possibly due to me having a 980M?
     
  31. D2 Ultima

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    *shrug*
     
  32. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Well I will find out when I get my machine back next week. Could be a Kepler bug, could be a Windows 10 bug, could be VMware. Too many variables but like I said, VMware is just a toy for me... really when I'm bored I'll download a random distro and try it out.
     
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  33. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    On 365.19.. Its been pretty stable, not benched yet with it.. On the whole seems fine.. I just need to get my CPU+GPU overclock under control.. Running at 1440p is pushing my machine to the limits.. Polaris MXM can't come soon enough!!

    Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk
     
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    I have seen similar behavior(Win Crap X) on my machine. I had unwanted load after win started(The 15% load run 4min before the unwanted load stopped). I changed my O & O ShutUp10 setup to lock everything from the Redmond Morons, rebooted and checked that all settings stick. Put my normal settings back, rebooted. Everything back to normal. This must be a Win Crap bug!! I can't find my posting about this craziness now.

    Edit http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-garbage-x-malware-edition-win-10-pro.791852/
     
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  35. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Well I have *NOTHING* from Windows daddy microsoft knows best edition 10 on this system. However it seems that a simple windows update fixed it. I went through my Windows update list and found one that matched what I was experiencing and after installing the problem seems to have vanished. I think my PC has lower idle usage and RAM usage too, so I guess clicking "more information" on *EVERY* single windows update not installed yet and manually ticking off the ones I wanted was a great idea.
     
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  36. D2 Ultima

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    Anybody notice any dead pixels since using this driver? Both my main screen and my second screen I'm noticing have a few dead pixels scattered around. Mainly at the edges of my screen on my primary monitor, but also some on my second monitor. It could be I was having problems the whole time and never noticed, however I somehow doubt that. I'm fairly certain that at least a week ago I had no problems with any dead pixels on either screen, and it's a little weird that they showed up on both panels at the same time.

    Either my GPU is dying, both my screens are dying, or the driver is somehow screwing with me. Or I'm paranoid. I don't know. But I just tried cleaning both screens and I still have the small dark spots.
     
  37. jaybee83

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    ill check mine in a bit, have been using this driver for a couple weeks now

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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  38. hfm

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    There's no way a driver caused pixels to die. If you revert does it go away?

    I've had pixels die on monitors, it sucks but it just happens.

    Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
     
  39. jaybee83

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    so far i dont see any dead pixels on my display. will check once more with solid color backgrounds

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
  40. D2 Ultima

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    I have about six on the laptop screen; three on each side. And about five on the second monitor. Either my GPU's dying, or both screens have decided to start giving problems at the same time. Might really be coincidence. But thanks for clearing up. I didn't think it could be a driver, but you never know. Remember drivers causing BSODs and deleting stuff from windows was a thing just a couple months ago, no? =D
     
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