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    nVIDIA GeForce Driver v388.13 Findings & Fixes

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 30, 2017.

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    Hotcake driver coming in 3....2....1....

    [​IMG]
     
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    "[Windows 10 Fall Creators Update]: Color settings made in the NVIDIA Control Panel are not preserved across a system reboot or restart. [2009433]"

    I love how this is becoming a fact that we have to live with (-.-)
     
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    I thought they fixed this. The Fall Creator's Abortion must have broken it again.
     
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    Installed them, no idea why though. Well OK, because supposedly they are Wolfenstein II drivers, but I was gaming fine with whatever old version of drivers I had.
    I swear, if I will start having problems I will go full BJ Blazkowicz on nVidia!
     
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    @j95 weave your magic!

    I hope this fixes a few issues with Wolfenstein like flickering shadows.
     
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    Why only love for Windoze X in OP? And when can we expect see benchmarks resuls? :D
    Nvidia Geforce drivers v388.13 Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, Windows 8 64-bit

    Release Notes (v388.13)
    Changes and Fixed Issues in Version 388.13 The following sections list the important changes and the most common issues resolved in this version. This list is only a subset of the total number of changes made in this driver version. The NVIDIA bug number is provided for reference.  There is no display on the second monitor. [2003222]  Yellow bang appears by the graphics entry in Device Manager. [1989210]  [Notebook][MS Hybrid][HDR]: On Hybrid systems where the discrete GPU drives the primary display, there is momentary corruption before a streaming game goes into full-screen mode. [200349552]

    As usual... New is always better :D
    upload_2017-10-30_22-2-30.png

    Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) v17.0.7.8 (1. Nov 2017)

    Post your findings here...
    Official 388.13 Game Ready WHQL Display Driver Feedback Thread (Released 10/30/17)
    upload_2017-10-31_0-41-1.png
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2017
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    Sadly it was never fixed for me :(
     
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    Still playing The Evil Within 2 and Destiny 2.. don't need these drivers lol
     
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    I was using 384.92 before I sent my 16L13 in for warranty repair and it was working for me.


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    It's a 387 branch exclusive problem, anything below that ain't a problem. But for Fall Creator Update I don't believe it is possible to go below 387 without having more problems.
     
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    Download all my INF mods from here once it goes live.

    [​IMG]
    Code:
    # Download nvidiaProfileInspector from here only -> https://ci.appveyor.com/project/Orbmu2k/nvidiaprofileinspector/build/artifacts -> "export all customized profiles" -> leave unchecked "include predefined settings"
    # DDU
    # Disable driver signing
    # 7-Zip  -> extracted driver package >> delete folders as shown above (don't skip this step) <<
    # Display.Driver folder -> copy only the corresponding INF file(s) below -> run setup.exe -> custom -> clean install option -> "Installation Successful” -> close installer.
    # nvidiaProfileInspector -> "import profile(s)" -> "refresh current profile".
    # Reboot
    # Nvidia Control Panel -> Change resolution -> "Use Nvidia color settings" -> Manage 3D settings -> Set Performance options.
    
    
    Alienware PEG M15x, M17x, AW17 R1, M18x, AW18 R1 (including Optimus/M17xR4): nv_dispi.inf + nvdmi.inf
    
    Alienware 17 (2014) *Optimus* 980M - 970M: nvcvi.inf (only)
    
    Clevo PEG: nv_dispi.inf + nvcvi.inf
    
    Clevo P170EM / P150EM *Optimus* 980M - 970M: nvcvi.inf (only)
    
    MSI PEG: nv_dispi.inf + nvmii.inf
    
    
    GeForce 388.13 WHQL Win10
    GeForce 388.13 WHQL Win7/8.1


    nv_dispi.inf_v388.13_Win10_PEG_Dedicated_AW_CLEVO_MSI.zip
    nv_dispi.inf_v388.13_Win7_8.1_PEG_Dedicated_AW_CLEVO_MSI.zip
     
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    Thanks man! I'll give these a shot and see if they're all good for me.
     
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    After DDU restarts from Safe mode into normal mode, do we have to run ddu again for another cleaning before installing the new drivers? it says that in release notes of ddu 1.7
     
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    If you're on Fall creators update then you must do it.
    First select clean w/o restart option then select Clean and Restart
    Note:don't reboot in between driver cleaning.
     
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    All while in safe mode?
     
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    yup, all in safe mode. you install while in DSE disabled mode.
     
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    Do you agree with Vasudev above you that we should clean twice (one without restart and one with restart) before installing new drivers?

    And what is DSE disabled mode?
     
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    DSE-> Driver Signature Enforcement. Disabling DSE is optional unless you want to use @j95 modded nvidia driver. Otherwise not needed.
    Peter Wagnard specifically said that in changelog that on Fall Creators update and above versions needs cleaning twice and they're working to fix that odd bug. You can find me on their forums too.
     
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    What I do:

    1. Uninstall physx. No reboot.
    2. Uninstall HD Audio. Reboot.
    3. Uninstall driver. No auto reboot.
    4. Hold shift key, click on windows icon, click on power and select restart.
    5. Select troubleshoot, advanced, start up options. This should list keys 4 as safe mode and 7 as driver signing enforcement. Click restart.
    6. When you get a blue screen with the list of startup options press 4.
    7. Run DDU clean but no restart.
    8. Repeat step 4.
    9. Repeat step 6 but press 7.
    10. Install modded driver. Reboot.

    Sent from my SM-T560NU using Tapatalk
     
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    Uninstalling the driver from CPL removes every SW from nvidia. Simply Enable Safe mode prompt in DDU in Options afterwards close and re-open it.
     
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    Everytime I perform a clean driver installation using DDU and after reconnecting to the internet, Windows 10 immediately downloads and installs the May 2017 version 382.05. I used DDU to install the April stable version of 381.89.

    https://pasteboard.co/GRuYwj8.jpg

    Under Hardware setting, I already ticked "dont install device drivers" but windows update keeps overriding it.

    How do i stop that?
     
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    Disconnect from the Internet before you start the uninstall procedure then reconnect when you've finished installing the updated set.

    In Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise, you can use Group Policy Editor to stop WU from automatically updating specific hardware drivers. Link
     
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    Another and easiest solution for me is using O&O Shut Up 10. Just disable windows auto update and you can install which ever nvidia driver you want without the stupid windows auto update. If ever there is a windows update and you want that update. Uninstall your nvidia driver 1st using DDU and enable windows update using O&O Shut UP 10. Update windows and it will also install your graphic driver. Once you have finish updating windows. Disable windows update using again using O&O Shut Up 10. Uninstall the graphic driver that windows installed for you using DDU. Then you can install which ever nvidia driver suites you. O&O Shut Up 10 is amazing.
     
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    Shutup 10's disable driver install option has never worked for me.


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    Set the connection to metered or disable WU completely.
     
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    True. The disable driver never works on its own. You must disable all windows update using shut up 10. not just the driver. it works. hehe.. just update manually when needed.. you dont need the windows update on all the time. its a pain in the bum.. ^_^
     
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    Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) updated to v17.0.7.8 (Wed Nov 01, 2017)
    ChangeLog:

    -Registry cleanup Enhancements.
    -Additional AMD/NVIDIA/intel cleanup
     
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    DDU shuts off Windows check for driver updates too, and it seems to work for me.
     
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    +1 here
     
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    I don't get the auto driver update/install thing because it doesn't detect a compatible GPU. The 1070 I have, while it works, it's technically not compatible so it doesn't go and find the driver to install :)
     
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    Home versions of W10 downloads driver even if we apply the tweak too. Only way is to set the connection as metered.
     
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    I am using home and it works for me metered or not.
     
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    It didn't work for me. I used Winaero tweaker but WU downloads driver so I disabled WU and BITS.
    On Pro versions, the tweak works flawlessly.
     
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    no issues so far from me.
     
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    What is the most stable nvidia driver just before 388?
     
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    Firemark score always going down a bit by every release (I always do a fresh / DDU install), games seem the same though
     
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    Driver gave me horrible stuttering and overall lag followed by a total system crash. Rebooted, same thing. DDU, rolled back to previous drivers and zero issue. Will be avoiding this one.
     
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    Hey all. I have been out of the game so to speak for health reasons for a long time and now that I am able to get back into gaming a bit, I have no idea what drivers I should even try. Maxwell, 980m SLI, Windows 8.1 as seen in my sig. And recommendations on a good driver or at least any that I should absolutely avoid? Might grab the new Cod if that matters at all.

    Also, I have seen some mention of having to run DDU twice now, is that only for those running Windows 10? I still have an old version of DDU from over a year ago installed. Just looking for a few suggestions and some clarity so I can get back in as smoothly as possible. I appreciate any help you can provide.
     
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    well these 388.13 have been solid for me.

    As for DDU, I never heard anything about running it twice but be sure to see this:
    How to properly update your nVIDIA graphics card driver
     
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    From DDU's Readme file. I don't get it why people want run DDU in Normal mode first :rolleyes: Maybe something wrong with me, bruh o_O

    Recommended usage:
    -You should disconnect your internet or block Windows Updates.
    -DDU should be used when having a problem uninstalling / installing a driver or when switching GPU brand.
    -DDU should not be used every time you install a new driver unless you know what you are doing.
    -The tool can be used in Normal mode but for absolute stability when using DDU, Safemode is always the best.
    -If you are using DDU in normal mode, Clean, reboot, clean again, reboot.
    -Make a backup or a system restore (but it should normally be pretty safe).
    -It is best to exclude the DDU folder completely from any security software to avoid issues.
     
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    Wow, you surprise me sometimes by how much you go into details >>>>>>>>> Papusan >>>>>> [​IMG]

    No wonder I never needed to run it twice because I always run it in Safe Mode
     
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    Yeah using this every time you install a driver should not be necessary.
     
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    I run thrice in safe mode just to be thorough even though DDU removes those said directories in the first place. I love to see the message Cleaning Known Directories and Reg keys...Please wait for a minute or two.
     
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    I've always just ran it once in safe mode and never install GFE and never had an issue but saw people acting like things have changed since I last used it so I'd figured I would ask. Thought it might have something to do with Win 10 since I'm staying on 8.1, seems it's all still the same.
     
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    Guys be more specific when you list the issues xD.. like what Windows you're using... what games you're playing.. and most important what video card/setup you have (laptop/desktop etc...). DDU does help a bit for a fresh install since I've done GFE method/clean install numerous times and it has given me some graphical issues on some games so now when/if I do update its with DDU.

    So far its running fine on my end:

    Games played since install:
    The Evil Within 2 - works fine.
    Destiny 2 - works fine.
    StarCraft Remastered - works fine.
    Black Desert Online - works fine.
    osu! - works fine.
    Streaming on Twitch - works fine.

    Windows 10 Pro 1703 (installing 1709 atm)
    GT73VR TITAN (1070)

    Installation method:
    DDU
    Install 388.13
     
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    https://forums.geforce.com/default/...spotify-breaking-geforce-overlay-shadowplay-/

    https://forums.geforce.com/default/...rce-overlay-shadowplay-/post/5234967/#5234967

    Still waiting...how did they manage to break shadowplay again? It used to work just fine when other applications using hardware acceleration were open.

    I have also noticed some annoying bug in fullscreen where (and i guess/bet) due to a driver issue, in PUBG and also Fortnite if vsync is enabled this happens

    [​IMG]

    Source: here

    I guess it's a driver issue because i have noticed the same weird lines in GRID Autosport which is an old game and runs on a different engine than PUBG and Fortnite do. It's been there since a long time now and it does happen only in fullscreen mode unless you turn off vsync. I believe also Squad has this issue.
     
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    Use MSI Afterburner 4.4 and select video capture. From the dropdown menu choose external encoder NVENC with quality preset and target bit rate of 10Mbps. See this screenshot and get rid off GFE because MSI AB can use CUDA based encode/decoder to record your game like GFE.
    @Papusan @Mr. Fox If you guys are interested in recording games with zero bloatware from nvidia. You can also use Intel QuickSync to record games with great quality than stock nvenc at 5Mbps. I felt 10Mbps gave me similar quality like Quicksync.
    rtsss.PNG
     
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