nVIDIA GeForce Drivers v358.91 Findings & Fixes *CAUTION* Dead GPU reports on nVidia forums!

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Damn it!


...I kept searching, but I upgraded just ...like ...an hour ago ...if that, to 358.87


Will DDU 15.5.1.0 wipe 358.87 completely or do I need a newer version?

 

It would, I just did it. You don't need a new version of DDU for every driver update. The basic files are the same only in rare cases do they change.

Funny the guys at GeForce forums although I don't trust them are reporting that ironically, as this driver claims it supports Fall Out 4, there is no SLI profile for Fall Out 4 in this driver! I thought this driver was to support Fall Out 4! LOL

Classical Swiss Cheese BS from nCrapia Drivers Muppets Team

@Mr. Fox

 

Apparently the driver does contain a FO4 SLI profile, it's just not set up correctly for whatever reason. You can enable it with AFR2. Maybe there are still bugs in the game that cause SLI glitches, so Nvidia is not enabling it for now. I wouldn't put it past Bugthesda.

 

Sigh, so many drivers, and I don't think they are doing much at all. I will give these a try over the next weekend, to check if my crash still happens.

 

If their drivers continue down this road, tablets will one day outperform laptops.

Can't even play a game these days without crashes and screen failures. What's the deal?!

 

I guarantee you they're doing plenty with their drivers.

So far this year, we've had all these features added:
- Constant TDRs without stressing the card (this feature was mostly removed as of 355.60 but some people still enjoy it with later drivers)
- Artifacting after recovering from sleep with 355.82
- Bricking PCs with 355.83 hotfix
- Removal of mixed WDDM mode present in 358.50 with 358.87 and later
- Inability to install on some lenovo machines with Win 10 post 355.98
- Inability to downclock GPUs on 358.87
- Breaking of Gsync with windowed mode
- Crippling of 780M SLI in Alienware machines at stock
- Bricking of LCD panels in many notebooks which use dGPU-only after installing Windows 10
- Freezing and crashing of Windows if Killer Wifi suite drivers were installed somewhere around 353.06
- Stealing of 1/8 of available vRAM in Windows 10 using 353.62 drivers (unsure if present in later drivers)

Anything else I'm forgetting? I'm sure I've forgotten something.

Either way, they're doing a LOTTTTTT of work. I guarantee it.

 

crap driver crashes on my standard overclock which works in all other games.

 

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For some unknown reason, these latest Nvidia driver releases since Mid September are really buggy for my Sager Laptop and 880m GPU.
No matter what release since that time, the releases are still wreaking havoc with my games, with Bioshock and Skyrim: TES, being unable to detect my 880m card, and only see the Intel 4600 IGPU, and all my games default to low settings.
This is a case of either Nvidia being really sloppy and careless with their latest driver offerings for the last 2 months, or it's something else that I cannot figure out.
Even with this release being a WHQL, it is still screwing up my games.
Is there anyone else having these same issues with Nvidia's latest releases?

 

You already listed the reason here:

I fixed the quote for you while I was at it.

Because WHQL is worthless now. Micro$haft is not fixing any problems you get from using WHQL certified hardware or software that breaks something on your system, nVidrosoft is not fixing or taking blame for anything their stupid, sloppy, terrible drivers do to a system, and both companies will run you around making you take the blame from everywhere else indefinitely.

Yes, many people are. You're nowhere near the only one.

 

@Ethrem @D2 Ultima @Mr. Fox @toughasnails

Ok after testing this driver for 7 days, I can confirm that it has the same bug as the previous driver where it keeps the fans of the GPU at full speed even when in 2D mode doing basic web browsing.

I was alarmed after reading this, guys this is some serious **** man! I know we shouldn't trust the trolls on the nVIDIA forums but this makes sense, GPU running at full speed 100% of the time then this thread.... nVIDIA is doing some serious damage to our expensive hardware....first the frying of LCDs like sheesh kebab and now frying of GPUs

358.91 Fried my Card

I'm back on the official driver by Clevo for the 870DM-G which is 354.09 and the fans have gone quiet now.

PS: Remember Mr. Fox when I initially blamed XTU for the fans running at full speed?? Even when setting them back to automatic as you taught me, they would spin down but after a while even while doing nothing they were going on full blast again.

I suggest y'all to downgrade if you have this driver installed.

 

Disable the card(s) in device manager, wait a few seconds for the clocks to drop and then go back in and re-enable them and you should be on 2D clocks. It's annoying but it isn't dangerous unless you've overvolted your video cards.

There's a reason that I refuse to leave 347.88 on my 980Ms though.

 

Those drivers are so old man do they even work properly on the 980M?

Also, I didn't overvolt or overclock my GPUs so that full speed fan blast is abnormal bro

 

They work perfectly fine, just without SLI support in newer games.

The fan fires up because newer drivers lock the video card at base clocks by default, driving the voltage and heat up. It's a bug for sure and a dangerous bug at that - the only workaround I found for it was disabling it in device manager and re-enabling it but anything hardware accelerated like Flash or Chrome would just kick it back again so I downgraded.

 

Just in case I added a caution to the thread title.

 

Great info

Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk

 

This is exactly the behavior I'm speaking of

From the feedback thread.

For some reason new Maxwell drivers are forcing base 3D clocks... Average 10C idle temp increase over the old drivers.

 

Right now I am on 358.91, and if I restore the Nvidia 3d global settings to defaults and reboot, my GPU clocks all drop quickly after getting bumped up due to use, video, flash, game:



But, if I tweak the Nvidia 3d global settings for performance / quality, the clocks stay high much longer, all the way up high without dropping in some cases.

It's been that way for a while, not just on 358.91.

Before I did that my clocks were locked high too:



The GPU clocks are locked high with these 3d settings (test settings to lock clock high as example):





It used to be that setting Power Management Mode from Adaptive to Prefer Maximum Performance was enough to lock up the clocks high, many driver revisions ago, but now it takes several of the 3d options set from default to cause this, I haven't debugged to root cause which ones/combinations specifically.

So, it isn't just the driver for me, it's the 3d settings. I also have the refresh set to 100hz. And, this happens for as long as I can recall, not only with the most recent drivers since Windows 10 released, I am on Windows 8.1.

 

Seem to work fine for me (GTX970 no OC).

 

Working just fine for me. My GPUs are all undervolted anyways so they don't even hit above 65c, so I'm really not too worried about heat/etc.

 

It's the idle heat, from the locked high clock settings on the GPU's. Mine run at 39c/38c when idle at low clocks, and right now with elevated clocks they are at 49c/43c, which is too high.

 

lol... what? 43c is NOT that hot for idle, you are not going to degrade your cards life in any way with temps like that, even if you run your laptop 24/7 which I'm guessing you're not running it as a server.

As far as NVIDIA's problems have gone, I honestly don't think this is too big of one. If it was an update that caused the load temperatures to go to 100c then yeah that would definitely be a huge problem.

 

For the GT80 an increase of 10c for 1 GPU at idle isn't a problem, it might get the fan making a little noise if the ambient goes up a bit.

But, for other GPU's, in other laptops, with not so good of cooling, it can raise the temps much higher, and apparently high enough for long enough to cause a GPU failure, going back to the original note / URL.

It's not a LOL.

 

Its not so much the temperature as the constant 3D voltage being fed to an idle card. There's quite a difference between ~850mv and ~1v when the card isn't being utilized. Voltage definitely puts wear on cards.

 

That's actually a pretty good point. That is kind of scary. Hopefully NVIDIA will realize they ****ed up and fix this soon... I hate monopolies. :/

 

If you look at my post below, the idle at lower clocks was .850 MIN, but peaked at .925 MAX, which is only .025 different than the other image showing locked high clocks and .950 MAX. Not that much of a difference.

 

I don't see your post but voltage is dependent on ASIC quality... I know what I'm talking about, I saw it happening to @Matrix Leader with his 980 Ti...

 

Post #18
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-on-nvidia-forums.783819/page-2#post-10139494

I wasn't talking about different voltages between different GPU's / ASIC's, I was talking about the idle temperature differential between low GPU clocks and high GPU clock locked at idle.

My ASIC's are:
GPU0 77%
GPU1 67%

 

Yes remember this thread I created a while back?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/why-is-my-980ti-gpu-temp-too-high.782795/

 

What the hell, nGreedia + Micro$lop's Winblows's - windoze X are hell bent on destroying the PC market for that console greed.

It's been over 3 months since I've used my machine which I tend to do it soon this week but I'm shocked to see all this bullcrap cat and mouse driver games, game ready $ht infestation going on one after another - started with the driver OC block, petition to unlock the OC, then OC bit block unless a vBIOS mod then this unstable drivers with SLI, no ncrapia special tech for SLI like DSR etc, Win10 + autoupdated auto lcd bricks & the shadowplay features never fully released on notebook machines, GeForced Experience.

Glad that I'm still on the 347.88 which I found stable at that time for the clocks, temp management even with optimus...
Plus I never use that optimized game profiles..I prefer my own for max fps and comfort.

Will this ever end ?


EDIT : IIRC the drivers are for SLI profiles and one-click optimization crap right ? Is yes then the old 347.88 will work with Witcher 3, FO4, CODBO3.... do they still need driver update or am I good ?

 

Works fine on my 770DM. Idle temps are around 44C regardless of which driver I use, with around 850mV.

 

Again, it's not the temperatures that are concerning, its the higher voltage.

 

Ethrem, ok, but what higher voltage? The difference in idle voltage is .025v...as the frequencies increase from very low to maximum, that seems like a small increase. What are you looking at?

 

347.88 works fine with 980M unless you want to play Battlefront which requires 355.60 or newer. It wont run at all on 347.88.

Edit: 355.60 was for Beta, seems they upped it to 358.50 for release: Nvidia game ready 358.50 or higher

 

That may be your idle increase, mine idle at 856 and 850 respectively and drivers that lock them put them both to 975, my max voltage.

 

Guys what version driver of Nvidia i can download and install on my GTX980 desktop version without bug or something :-??

 

All of the recent drivers have been good for my GT80 SLI-263, including the recent 359.00.

I don't install the 3D vision, Miracast, or Geforce elements of the installer package.

I always do a Custom=>Clean install from the Nvidia installer.

 

Does Miracast even work? I've never seen any option to cast anything to my devices so I came to the conclusion that it must be Shield-only.

 

I don't know, I don't install the Miracast software

But, that option doesn't show up unless the installer finds Miracast supporting hardware.

You may need to switch to the iGPU for it to work.

 

iGPU is not a possibility on my machine, it doesn't have a MUX. I know that Intel chips can do Miracast and I know nVidia GPUs can as well, I just think nVidia locked it down to just their devices... Which is crap because I could really use the tech at my new place where my TV is in another room instead of the same room so HDMI isn't possible and I don't feel like hauling my laptop out to the other room and back to play video games.

 

Good luck with that

 

Well I have a desktop tower I can set up next to the TV and either use its 780 Ti or stream games from my laptop via Steam. I'm not too sure how well Steam streaming works over WiFi though and I already have a coax cable I can trip on all the time leaving my room, I'd rather not add a Cat 5E to the mix.

 

So uh... what driver should I go back to now?

The other day I had noticed that my fans just don't seem to be as whisper quiet at idle anymore, but I never though to check the GPU clocks.

Now I know the culprit.

 

Try setting your Nvidia Global 3d settings to defaults (Restore), that solved the stuck high GPU clocks for me, I am now on 359.00

 

I am using the official driver that came on my drivers disc for the Clevo P-870DM-G and it doesn't have the fans spinning at all in 2D Mode but that driver seems to be like an OEM driver as I cannot find it on the nVIDIA's Driver download page, but I would recommend you to stick to 353.62 for now (the link is for the Windows 8 version since I see in your sig you are using Windows 8)

 

Nvidia are confusing lately with soo many botched driver updates.

It's been a long time since I updated and now the Dota2 with Source 2 engine update's not a smooth 60fps like it was back then. I hope it's the game that's updated and not driver related that's causing the FPS / performance drop..

Gotta play Fo4, Codbo3, Acs asap and I may end up testing with this new crap from nVidia..

 

But the funny thing, I can't play Star Wars Battlefront with these old drivers. So, now I have to live with the bugg to play the new games... Is there any small fix to this?

 

Double post!

 

Did you try to import the Profile for Battlefront to your old Driver? If yes, that didn't work out?