nVIDIA Telemetry in their latest drivers

A user here showed me some telemetry services that were in his system after installing the latest drivers but I didn't have them on my system.

Surprisingly, after running Autoruns I saw them

Please disable them like this:



Or simply use this tool:

Disable nVIDIA Telemetry

 

Do you installing the whole Bloat package from Nvidia?

 

Custom Install, uncheck 3D Vision Driver as it causes a lag before I open each video file on my system

But I do have GFE installed to easily apply the optimal settings to my games

 

I'm a happy camper. Almost no gaming and as well no trash from the Green M$ brothers. Soon we have to use our computers off line 24/7/365 Bombed with Trash from everywhere

 

Telemetry from Micro$h4ft and now nVIDIA, perfect double cheese burger combo!

 

The Green monkeys is the salad on top And I don't like salad either. Same as I don't like cheese on my burger. Bacon FTW

 

My post was approved on Major Geeks

NVIDIA Adds Telemetry to Latest Drivers; Here's How to Disable It = http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/stor...o_latest_drivers_heres_how_to_disable_it.html

@toughasnails

 

I use GFE old edition (non v3).
You can grab installer separate.

 

Wow, just hilarious. It seems soon every piece of proprietary software will have some sort of telemetry bundled!

 

Hmmm, i dont seem to have these running. I only install the Driver and PhysX.

 

I bet this stuff is tied to GeForce Experience.

 

Thank you. I've disabled this and shared as well.

 

I told you to check using CCleaner.

This is part of the reason why I am still on 373.06. Even using Autoruns (Sysinternals is amazing, BTW), I have absolutely no NVIDIA telemetry.

 

I bet in the future even Tetris will come with telemetry...

 

It's not surprising though. Anyone remember seeing ads for free games if you sign up for GFE 3.0?
Data collection? Mass stat accumulation?
Everything comes at a cost.

 

I actually just decided to rollback to 372.90. Seems to be the best driver for my 1080.

 

Do you remember if you had any sort of Audio Crackling / DPC LATENCY Issues with the newer drivers ?
I'm thinking of rolling back to a super old chain as well. The same drivers run perfectly fine for Maxwell, but with Pascal DPC LATENCY gets crazy sometimes.

 

I just installed an older driver, v369.26 but didn't select the GeForce Experience that comes bundled with it since that's an old one.

Next, I installed the latest GeForce Experience v3.1.0.52 and noticed that the Telemetry files / services were installed so it seems like GeForce Experience is behind this crapware:

Driver Only:



After installing GeForce Experience



I found this funny, a post about this from Reddit:

See this post dawg, it's in GFE: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ir-latest-drivers.797846/page-2#post-10379995

 

So, as long as I uncheck GFE from the driver install (which I usually do), I should be ok? Even with the newest drivers? This seems to have really been blown out of proportion on Reddit.

 

well I was testing driver v369.26

After installing the latest driver, please run Autoruns64.exe as admin (link is in the OP) and in the filter in the top left, type nvidia

then see if you have the telemetry entries

 

Currently at school for the next 14 hours (I have a lab to do), maybe someone else can try? I'll see if I can message some of my friends.

 

please do and report back

 

I can confirm that on 373.06 (PCs in the lab are running them), there is no telemetry without GFE installed. Seems like the lab technician unchecked GFE. Nowhere to be found on the PC. I'm running the same drivers at home. GFE was also unchecked during my personal install.

Want me to ask the tech if I can install GFE and see if it pops up?

I seem to be getting a lot of mixed responses. Some of my buddies who've installed the latest drivers without GFE are saying they don't see those processes, and some do.

I've honestly had enough. 980 Ti, 1080, and its been a meh experience overall. I really wish I had stayed with my R9 280 now. I really hope Vega is good, and can at least match the 1080.

 

Yep, installed the latest drivers without GFE, and what do you know? Its there.

I really hope AMD can match the 1080 with Vega.

 

Disable Nvidia Telemetry tracking on Windows (gHacks)

 

Thanks for the hard work man! Hope this telemetry-fashion ends soon...

 

Don't shoot the messenger, but someone did a little more digging into what NVIDIA might be collecting.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/2672-geforce-experience-data-transfer-analysis

 

Good article, but you should know that the author simply used wireshark to monitor network packets. With that method one can only interpret unencrypted traffic and he did notice that there are encrypted packets as well.

So the interesting question would be: Why is some part of telemetry data transferred unencrypted and why is there encrypted traffic ? Latter could be related to user authentication or acc info exchange but who know's (beside Nvidia) ...

 

whatever the reason is, I don't want anything going out of my computer anywhere. What's worse, is nVIDIA introduced this telemetry without announcing it. you install the latest drivers and you have it.

 

I'm just putting information out there, and this is an excellent follow-up question.

 

Agreed. I do not see the need to collect any information, until now they managed quite well without it.

 

Nvidia want to see how many people overclocking their graphics card. So they can later determine how much they must cripple their drivers for old graphics vs next model

 

New GeForce Experience also causes performance issues as well as mouse lag. I ended up just removing it completely.

 

Yep.. they'll get it down to a fine science. Knowing what's ticking just before your next upgrade is good for business.

 

Here a few news article on that topic:

http://www.howtogeek.com/280101/relax-nvidias-telemetry-didnt-just-start-spying-on-you/

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-latest-drivers-telemetry/

http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-telemetry-monitor-is-not-spying-on-you/

https://www.techpowerup.com/227598/nvidia-telemetry-spooks-privacy-sensitive-users-how-to-disable-it

Seems the press is defending Nvidia very hard and they claim to know that it is "nothing to worry about". We still don't know what is being transferred in those encrypted packets...

 

Probably private personal info like physical and email addresses, DOB, CC info, etc.

 

Disable nVIDIA Telemetry tool added to the OP

 

i just follow @J95s instructions and delete the junk folders in the drivers.

 

The 4th article has this comment about a Printed French Magazine article with this info, which I found interesting back when it came out originally.

Also Vista and Windows 7 don't seem to get the Telemetry process - I guess the OS's are too old, but Windows 8.1 / 10 do.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/posts/3550903

"...it is by default integrated into driver bundles now, without GFE.

There was this log from reddit (summary and link below, click on "here"), although it originated from a magazine (about 4+ months ago, telemetry may have changed since then):

Disclaimer: CanardPC Hardware is a printed magazine thus I do not have any link to an online article for now. They have already published online some popular articles in the past but it is still very uncommon and, if it happens for this one, it will be in French. I will add a scan of the article if they authorize me to do so (usually they don't mind if it is on a non-French website).

Anyway here is the best summary I could make in English:

When installing the latest driver (368.25), the process immediately send the current driver version and the PCI ID of your graphic card at gfswl.geforce.com using HTTP without encryption.

After transmitting some miscellaneous information like ID and size of your monitor to Adobe and a Google Analytics' tracker Nvidia will send information regarding your hardware such as CPU and SSD model reference to telemetry.nvidia.com.

Now if you agree to install GeForce Experience, which is the default option, a detailed description of your hardware is sent a few minutes later to gfe.nvidia.com/getsugar. This description includes: brand and model of your motherboard, serial number, BIOS version, information regarding USB drives currently plugged, RAM capacity, GPU frequency, etc.

But wait, there is more! GeForce Experience will communicate the software you use (not only games), when you use it, for how long and, if it is a game, a framerate history, current settings and various statistical data.

It will also record where you click on the various utilities provided and how long you stay on each page. Almost 100Ko of information, along with Google trackers, are sent to Nvidia.

A decrypted log intercepted from our test setup is available here.

This is clearly a breach of your privacy. Nvidia's privacy policy does not mention these activities in the French version, only in the English one.

Regarding AMD (Crimson 16.5.3), some basic information are sent during driver installation, just like Nvidia, but we detected nothing more afterwards even when launching various applications or games.

This short article is part of a 15-pages dossier regarding privacy. There is one page on Steam, Origin, Battle.Net and GoG if anyone is interested (spoiler: besides GoG they use a lot of third-party cookies/trackers).

Now regarding the magazine's reputation, they are not anti-Nvidia or pro-AMD. In the same issue of the magazine they blame various websites and AMD for what happened at Computex 2016 and their lack of ethics (here is one of their many tweets regarding this event). They have also advised their readers to chose Nvidia's graphic cards over AMD's in the mid/high-end segment for a while now."