nVidia GT 650M 1024MB

My current notebook is showings its age with WoW. The GPU is not discrete. It held up nicely during Wrath of the Lich King but I've had to go from Ultra settings to Med/High with Cataclysm.

So I am looking to get a Clevo W170ER which has:

nVidia GT 650M 1024MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology

But the one thing is my resolution will also increase from 1366x768 to 1920x1080.

Do you think this card can handle WoW at max settings at this resolution?

 

I was given some good graphs to look at, and am asking myself the samme question. Id like to play BF3 on high settings, prferably at 1080p but certainly acceptable at a lower res high settings. In any case I'm going to go look for those graphs and ill edit back shrotly.

I haven't found the graphs yet, but this article might give you some of the information you're looking for:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html

 

yeah it will be, but I think 650m would hit the sweet spot on 900p gaming not 1080p still that doesn't mean it is awesome GPU! I am thinking of going m11x-r4 just because of 650m (as soon as it is available) and I am desktop replacement guy

btw your GPU is very discrete, why not?

 

Hm... I'm inclined to agree with the premise that 650m might hit it's 'sweet spot' on 900p.
It would still be a relatively high resolution.
1080p I think the 650m would still be able to handle in regards to MANY games, but it would depend on which games you play along with the settings (majority of games going past 'High' don't really experience any gains in visual quality that would be noticeable, while at the same time suffering a relatively big performance hit).

Having said that... we need more info. What would your 650m stats be anyway?
I'm talking about VRAM type (GDDR3 or GDDR5?), 128bit bus or 192bit bus... you know, that.

650m should be able to handle WoW on 1080p though - but it also depends on whether manufacturers will make 50 different versions of it or not... and it depends on which one you'd get.

 

The Sager 6165 on xotic has the 650M GDDR5 which i believe is a 128bit. I am in a similiar spot, although it think the games im mostly interested in playing are a little less demanding, i.e. Starcraft2, Company of Heros, Dota 2, LoL, and Diablo 3.

 

Yeah, I am worried about the bus size. I am wondering if I should spend the extra $500 for the next level up. I know I want a 17 in. screen if I am forced for 1080p native resolution, but I am worried that the card may not be up to the task.

 

Having owned an np8170, returned it and waiting for an np9170 I would say yes. The np9170 will shred WoW completely and the +$100 option for the nvidia 675m will help future proof it, although the 670m it comes with is a 570m rebadge. If you do go this way don't forget the NBR member discount when ordering

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The 675m is basically a revised/renamed 2 year old gtx 580m card.

Put it this way a 680m is around 30-40% more powerful and will take most likely less power to run then the 675m. Ivy bridge is a big difference in integrated graphics and 22nm tri gate transistors will mean around 505 less power consumption for same performance hence the 35w 3612qm.

Also the np9170 has 2 year old technology and a big overhaul in cpu and gpu and integrated graphics is coming it will already be outdated. Put it this way the laptops coming out soon will be more thin, weigh 500g-1kg less, perform better, have 3-4 hours more battery life and have great OC potential.


A 50w graphics card should perform similar to a 100w card on 3dmark11 and most benchmarks kepler vs fermi.

gt 650m should run most games at 080p on high at 30-60fps no problem. Contradude how you can say it will future proof it is amazingly off the mark.

Its like buying a 32nm cpu and 40nm gpu when that process has been used for 2 years then buy it 2 years later or be it the cpu 1 year later quads wise and then say it will be future proof. The performance will be good but when portable laptops weigh 1kg less with same screen perform just as good if not better and take half the power consumption with ivy birdge 22nm cpu and 28nm gpu.

That means you are future proof as performance willl be great, big OC potential. What you are buying is the limit of old gen.

At the end of the day would buy a 2010 car for a slightly less price then a 2012 car if the 2010 model had 50mpg with same size engine and slower 0-60 or a 2012 car that was 2 seconds faster 0-60 and did like 20mpg more because of newer engine.

 

Review Schenker XMG P502 PRO (Clevo P150EM) Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

For same cpu and gpu performance it should take around 100w at stress level with ivy bridge and amd 7000m or kepler 600m as this compared to the 174.9w. It should weigh around 2.5kg compared to the 3.22kg and perform better.

Review Schenker XMG P502 PRO (Clevo P150EM) Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

First off, the np9170 is based off of intel's latest platform so it has full support for kepler and ivy bridge. It doesn't currently have those installed but it will be a drop in replacement. All I was saying about future proofing was that the extra $100 gave the user the most powerful currently existing mobile gpu on the planet, and that there was a significant gain over the 670m in processing power. I never claimed that this was the best choice possible, just the best one available today.... or are you claiming that a regular user would be better served with a 20% weaker gpu for a small decrease in cost?

Edit: I'm well aware of ivy bridge and kepler and beyond... but no one can wait forever, you've got to jump in when you jump in and realize a new computer should happen at < 3 year intervals. The user can wait for the new hardware to drop with what is being estimated as an $100 raise on cpu that might be released at the end of the month if it isn't delayed again and god knows how much on gpu for the top end sometime early this this summer or can get a laptop now. Either way they'll be a winner.

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The card is roughly on par with the 560M GTX, In some cases its a little stronger. try not to focus on bus speed as this is a new technology and the same rules may not apply. Some benchmarks of the GDDR3 version can be found here, and I can only imagine that the GDDR5 version will score better.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...ries-w110er-w150er-w170er-21.html#post8406849

 

the 650 should be good enough for gaming at 1080p, but if you have the money I would recommend upgrade to the p170em. it give you the flexible to upgrade the gpu in the future if needed plus overall better package in my opinion.

 

Jesus, I'm maxed out (except for shadows) on WoW on a 4670M at 1600x900. If a 650m can't do 1080, then it's a total piece of garbage.

 

GDDR5 GT 650M 128bit = 64GB/s in memory bandwidth
GDDR5 GTX 560M 192bit = 60GB/s in memory bandwidth

GTX 560M Texture Fill Rate = 24.8 billion/sec
GT 650M Texture Fill Rate = 27.2 billion/sec

Since GTX 560M 192bit can handle 1080p gaming pretty well, 650M shure as hell will too.

650M is actually a pretty decent card

 

Yes you can basically view the 650m as a 560m.. Which is like a midclass 1080p gaming card

 

The 650M should be able to about max WoW at 1080p, with no problems. It is in genera a little faster than a 560M if tested with the same CPU.

Reference: Leaks of a 650M w/i3-2350M show a score of 2178 on 3DMark11

A 560M with a much faster 2670QM scores in general aroun 2100 based on notebookcheck scores.

 

on second thought, save the $500 and upgrade again when Ivy Bridge gives way to the new generation of processors. if it will do WoW the way you want it to (and it appears to) then enjoy the battery savings that you will receive.