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    nVidia Geforce 9800 Known Specifications

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by TomTom2007, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. TomTom2007

    TomTom2007 Notebook Deity

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    Just when you thought your 8800 Ultra is all cool and sexy.... :D

    By Q4 2007 (Xmas) NVIDIA will be releasing their GeForce 9800 series GPUs. Unlike previously expected the codename for nVidia's next generation GPU will NOT be "G90" but instead be "G92". G92 will be released in November 2007 timeframe in the form of "GeForce 9800" series. (this will not get confusing with ATI 9800 series, right? )

    "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

    - 65nm process technology at TSMC.
    - Over one billion transistors.
    - Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
    - Double precsion support (FP64).
    - GPGPU native.
    - Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
    - MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
    - Fully Scalar design.
    - 512-bit memory interface.
    - 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
    - DirectX 10.1 support.
    - OpenGL 3.0 Support.
    - eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
    - built in Audio Chip.
    - built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core)
    - Improved AA and AF quality levels

    65nm process will allow for better yields and better power consumption. power consumption will be lower than that of a GeForce 8800 GTX. GeForce 9800 GTX will be over two times faster than a GeForce 8800 Ultra in real world games and applications.

    Release date : November 2007. There will be TWO products at launch: The flagship GeForce 9800 GTX and the second fastest GeForce 9800 GTS.
    - price for the GeForce 9800 GTX will be 549-649 USD.
    - price for the GeForce 9800 GTS will be 399-449 USD.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/discussion/3953.html
     
  2. Ice-Tea

    Ice-Tea MXM Guru NBR Reviewer

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    Funny. I remember how nVidia broadcasted how they would release desktop and notebook components at the same time around the 6xxx series.

    Guess they are slipping "a bit"
     
  3. moon angel

    moon angel Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Ah Jeez I am so behind the times!
     
  4. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Awesome.

    I wonder what ATI is going to do.

    I still prefer AMD + ATI.
     
  5. Soviet779

    Soviet779 Notebook Consultant

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    Holy crap, that things a beast.... an audio chip?? tesselation unit? What the hells a tesselation unit? FREE AA?? Wow. Very nice indeed. Wonder how many shader units it has.
     
  6. Phritz

    Phritz Space Artist

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    OpenGL 3.0... 2.1 was betterlooking than Direct3D 10, I want OpenGL 3.0 NOW!
     
  7. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    wow the 8000 series didnt get a very long life cycle did they. Guess ATi/AMD is really stuffed now, they havent even gotten all their 2xxx series to the market yet. Losing to Intel, Losing to Nvidia...
     
  8. cabral

    cabral Notebook Consultant

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    ewww ati + amd thats a noob combo! its all about intel + nvidia or if you have to ati + intel, honestly amd/ati is dead, intel/nvidia will rule the WORLD!!!!!!
     
  9. Phritz

    Phritz Space Artist

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    Which means we lose. No competition for Intel and nVidia means they can charge us more. At least when Intel makes a halfhearted jump into the GPU market next year we can hope for lower prices... If only 3DFX would be around with Glide...
     
  10. Sahin

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    WHAT the 8800 did not even come out for the mobile platforms and BANG! If the power consumption gets less and less won't that mean soon desktop GPU's will go into laptops. :)
     
  11. Sahin

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    WHAT the 8800 did not even come out for the mobile platforms and BANG! If the power consumption gets less and less won't that mean soon desktop GPU's will go into laptops. :)
     
  12. SideSwipe

    SideSwipe Notebook Virtuoso

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    Glide is now in the evil hands of nvidia thanks to their buyout of 3DFX.

    as for cabral, thats funny but even funnier when you read your signature LOL

    AMD/ATI will never die, the worst will be that it would be bought out by something like IBM. What ATI is going through is no different than what Nvidia went through after the Radeon 9700 came out.
     
  13. Ice-Tea

    Ice-Tea MXM Guru NBR Reviewer

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    Less and less?

    Less mushrooms for your, son...
     
  14. Kwakkel

    Kwakkel Weirdo

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    i hope it's MXM-HE compatible, so it fits in the Clevo M570RU :p
     
  15. Maelwys

    Maelwys Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    That same thought occurred to me too. :)

    Just like Intel and AMD, nVidia and ATI trade places as the performance leader every few years. Look at nVidia's mainstream 8500 and 8600 lines - they pretty much suck. With a few quick releases, ATI could easily capture the mainstream market right now which would put them back in the game.
     
  16. TH3D4RKKN!GH7

    TH3D4RKKN!GH7 Notebook Consultant

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    My god my brain hurts from reading those specs, btw WHERE THE HELL IS THE 8800M!?!?
     
  17. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    This is a most interesting announcement. It doesn't seem like Nvidia gave the GeForce 8 series a very long life at all.

    At any rate, I suppose this just goes to show that you cannot keep up with technology.
     
  18. wuzertheloser

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    dang....so what happens when the Geforce 10 series comes out? The world ends?
     
  19. mujtaba

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    This possibly is because of the poor performance of 8800GTX on DX10 when compared to the DX9.
     
  20. dark5

    dark5 Notebook Consultant

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    No kidding. I'm hoping around Christmas there'll be a price drop on 8800GTXs so the average PC gamer will be able to actually play current games (eg. Crysis and UT3) at high settings and above 720p. If not I don't see how those games will sell when not even catered to being playable on the majority of PC gaming systems at decent settings.
     
  21. The Forerunner

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    Of course the efficiency is increasing to make desktops kind of pointless. What is it analysts are saying, that by 2010 desktop market will be virtually non-existent?

    Also yeah I think nvidia is trying to put the nail in the coffin for ati/amd as soon as possible. They probably will release the 8800m around that time and sooner they get the 9 series desktop out the sooner they can launch the the 9m series. Ati is already behind in the notebook platform not even having released their notebook line yet so nvidia might be saving the 8800 to trump that and then when ati finally comes out with the mobile 2900 nvidia will be talking about the new 9m series. Trench warfare people moving yards at a time.
     
  22. MrWhereItsAt

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    Cheers for that info, TomTom. BUT, hold your horses everyone. The site that TomTom cites for this has this crucial sentence not reproduced here (go have a look)

    I have some info form NVIDIA insider about the upcoming G92 graphics processors.

    This is not any kind of official statement - this is some insider info (somewhat misspelt in places too). Although it's good to see, and may be the first glimpse we see of something really really good, this seems to in NO way be confirmed. I have no idea how reliable the original poster at X-bit labs is either. Keep that in mind and reign in the wild optimism. Hell, until I see it on the release schedules for a laptop, I refuse to believe anything about the 8800M card. :p Can anyone actually post any hard info saying that THAT card exists and will be released?
     
  23. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    wikipedia knows all.

    its not a firm release date, its just based off of an inquirer report a while back.

    the inquirer is known for producing accurate information before anyone else, but it also produces a lot of misinformation, probably those two things are linked.
     
  24. IIIM3

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    The only thing i see from this is BAD BATTERY LIFE!!! And a kick ass GPU.
     
  25. aaaaaa123

    aaaaaa123 Notebook Consultant

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    2x faster then 8800 ultra !!!! LOL
     
  26. aaaaaa123

    aaaaaa123 Notebook Consultant

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    65nm process will allow for better yields and better power consumption. power consumption will be lower than that of a GeForce 8800 GTX.
     
  27. narsnail

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    i think ati is actually making sure their mobile line works properly unlike nvidia, that is why it has not been released yet, but if thats not why there efffed...i pity those people who bought an 8800ultra...hah
     
  28. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    i pity those who bought 2 8800ultras for SLI...
     
  29. Patrick

    Patrick Formerly beat spamers with stiks

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    I want one. NOW.
     
  30. Mippoose

    Mippoose Notebook Deity

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    Whoever had enough floating cash to buy two 8800 Ultras will certainly not be punched in the face, but will show up in the desktop threads with.

    "Old system not up to par, help me with this config"

    *open*

    Hi my SLI 8800 Ultra quad core system just isnt cutting it now that 9800's are out.

    So I'm gonna kick it up a notch.

    Specs:

    4 gigs DDR8 ram
    Quad SLI 9800 ULTRA
    Core 8 Octo @10.6ghz
    5 terrabyte 80,000rpm Raptor EXTREME

    :p
     
  31. Patrick

    Patrick Formerly beat spamers with stiks

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    to slow for me
     
  32. jam12

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    I very much doubt it will be out by christmas. Like always, there certain to be a big delay. I'd expect it hit about April-May time next year - about the time when the 8000 series came out this year.
     
  33. meh_cd

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    I hope Nvidia trips over themselves if this turns out to be true. By all accounts the only 8x00 series card that turned out to be worth any salt was the 8800. Thanks Nvidia. :|

    I have no particular loyalty to either brand, although I do prefer Nvidia's drivers. However, if the ATi 2x00 is faster, then bye bye Nvidia.
     
  34. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    !!! haha :D :D 4Gb of ram?!?! more like 8! They've already done quad ...so...lets do HEX! lol But the 80,000rpm ratop EXTREME....haha :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  35. Mippoose

    Mippoose Notebook Deity

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    No need for 8gb of ram. :p

    The speed of DDR8 is only comparable to the right hand of God.

    It's science.
     
  36. lunateck

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    ATI 9800 vs Nvidia 9800... :D
    I hope that the 9600M GT comes out fast and crush the HD 2600 XT
     
  37. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    LOL!!

    Geeez I ve only got a MR 9600.....GF 9800 is gona be out before I get a new laptop...... :eek: :eek:
     
  38. lunateck

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    Laptop gpu usually comes 6 months later.
     
  39. Mippoose

    Mippoose Notebook Deity

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    My 8600GT is all I need in my upcoming laptop for years to come.

    I will decide sometime in college, depending on my job and so forth, on what my next step will be.

    It seems by then, that the architecture will be so small that power and heat will lower for each new product.

    I have a feeling that this time in like 2 years there will be some crazy mobile options. :eek:

    As it seems that soon heat and power wont be too much of a set back for manufacturers to put high end parts in laptops.
     
  40. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    So maybe when I get a new note book next summer the specs might be..........

    DREAMING~~~~~~~~~Thinkpad T65p~~~~~~ :p :p :p :p :p
    ~Quad core 3GHz
    ~4GB ddr3 ram
    ~200GB 10,000rpm hdd
    ~Nvidia Quadro NVS 670m.....= GF 9600mGT .....hehehe
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :D :eek: :rolleyes: :p :confused:
     
  41. Mippoose

    Mippoose Notebook Deity

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    Wouldn't that just be plain sexy? :rolleyes:
     
  42. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    WUahahah! yes it would be! :D

    Edit: damit we'r going so off topic.....sorry about this! :)
     
  43. SymphonyX

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    Anyway, the specs say there's a DRAM die for "free 4x AA". It looks similar to the daugther die used in the Xbox 360's Xenos GPU which can afford max AA, AF and HDR with absolutely no performance toll. And the audio chip's probably there for the HDMI.
     
  44. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Alright! chill out mate! No need to wack out the big words :p
     
  45. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    Just get back on topic guys. If this thread stays off course it will be closed.

    -Niki
     
  46. eessie

    eessie Notebook Geek

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    Oh so true LOL!!!
     
  47. Patrick

    Patrick Formerly beat spamers with stiks

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    I'm waiting fo the the geforce onekabillion 99million for my next desktop :)
     
  48. Robgunn

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    Those poor people that dropped $400+ on a 8800 series.
     
  49. deedeeman

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    poor people who will buy the 9800GTx's only to be outdated 7 months later by the 8GB GeForce 10800GTXRT5 with 1,024 stream processors @ 8GHz each.....all bulit on a 25nm fab process :p
     
  50. The Forerunner

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    Poor people...no thats just it, technological advance makes us (me at least) poor people.
     
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