nVidia Geforce Drivers 390.65 WHQL

I've already confirmed it on my laptop.

 

I pretty much said goodbye to optimus when I got the clevo.

 

It is useful if you need to flash a bricked GPU vBIOS. That was a nice feature on the M18xR1/R2 and when I bricked the 1080 Ti vBIOS on my desktop, I enabled it for flashing the GPU. Other than that, I have no use for it and it remains disabled at all times.

 

The Alienware I previously owned had this "feature" and i turned it off cos i just didn't want to use it. it still worked even after upgrading the laptop to a 980M, but the best/only way to force the dGPU was a screen upgrade

 

Doesn't newer desktop GPUs come with dual BIOSes that can flashback older BIOS image if main image is corrupted?
If its old news, I'm sorry. Its been 4 yrs since I used a desktop. I'm closing in a Ryzen TR with Vega 64 or Vega FE AIO and GTX 1070/1080. I'm interested in making Windows 10 and Linux to keep running on dual monitors using different GPU and even use some dx12 features.

 

ASUS has had an excellent desktop mainboard BIOS recovery feature for a long time. That does not help the vBIOS if you brick the GPU. I do not know of a GPU that has this. Maybe EVGA K|INGP|N models do, but I have not heard of it.

 

I think Sapphire makes Dual BIOS for AMD GPUs.
I didn't know EVGA Kingpin was a custom GPU, I thought it was the GPU used by Kingpin for his benchmarks.

 

No EVGA K|INGP|N GPUs are the overclocker/bencher to-die-for GPU. He is an EVGA sponsor and they are built to his specs. I'm sure his are modded even more, and we know he runs them on LN2. Those suckers can pulls like 900W or more with the core average around 2150MHz the way they are beefed up.

 

Nah, the high end models have had two bios chips and a built in switch for awhile. It was meant as an OC feature, where you have the stock bios and the LN2 BIOS. Look up the 980 Ti Classy and Kingpin. In fact, I think the 1080 Ti Kingpin now has 3 bios on it (or I know some card does). So, yes, there ARE desktop cards with multiple BIOS chips and a physical switch on the board. Sames reason I bought the M8E, two BIOS with a switch. But, that gives you one more reason to support the EVGA high end cards.

This is why I picked this card up for $315 over paying $400 for a 1070. Sometimes I wish I went the other way, only because I get to 34C and the card is pegged on OC, but many times I don't. But the dual bios is wonderful. Now I just need to get the Maxwell BIOS tweaker II software and learn a bit more, or ask Prema after his world calms down, or just use the modded ones off of OCN, but it is all good. Just sucks my ASIC is in the mid-60s. Other than that, glorious card.

 

That's awesome. As you know, I am just now getting back into the swing of things with desktops. How do you flash each vBIOS individually? Does it only flash the vBIOS based on the current switch position? I think that going forward I am only going to buy K|INGP|N cards. I think they are worth the extra $250-300. Probably a waste of money for a gamer, but for someone whose primary focus is overclocked benching, I think saving a few bucks on something less isn't a smart choice.

 

No Mr. Fox, that's plain old iGPU usage. Optimus is your intel GPU is used to run your display at all times, and is wholly incompatible with SLI. Your AWs had a MUX switch which let you switch the primary graphics adapter from the dGPU to the iGPU and this is absent on almost all motherboards. Only the Clevo BGA units have MUX as far as I know with recent gaming units.

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Sorry for the double post xD phone and all.

There are more cards like this. MSI lightning is one. I think Galax Hall Of Fame is another. Superbly overbuilt VRM and Power phase design. In the past MSI lightning had the best PCB I believe but K|NGP|N might have the upper hand this time, I do not know. Shop around and see! I don't think they make a massive difference for Pascal itself but maybe Volta/Ampere might.

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Well, duh... LOL.

No need to get overly technical, as it does absolutely nothing to change my comments. iGPU is good for flashing bricked discrete GPU vBIOS if the discrete GPU is not bootable. Other than that, iGPU sucks. Optimus sucks any way you want to slice it, and the reason it sucks is iGPU is crap if you care about anything other than long battery life. I wish my 7700K and 8700K did not even have an iGPU, but I was glad the 8700K did when I needed to use if for a few minutes to undo the bricked vBIOS. It took longer to turn it on and off again than it took to fix the bricked vBIOS.

 

Haha nah it's just you said optimus was useful for flashing bricked cards but you've never owned one so I was like burr?

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Optimus is one of those terms that is overused, misused and abused (a brand name for hybrid graphics switching) like SheetRock for gypsum board drywall and Kleenex for facial tissues and Scotch tape. In fact, Optimus is obsolete and has been replaced by the Redmond Mafia's own Windoze version of the feces that is not specific to GPU brand.

But, I think when you read the context of what a person it saying it almost always makes sense and you can understand exactly what they are talking about. I used to have a boss that always got locked up on things like that and wasted everyone's time correcting them when the people he was correcting knew as much or more on a technical level that he did, yet didn't get hung up on the minutia... but he could never just let it go. He was a great boss and I miss him, but it was one of those things that you wish he would stop. I probably have several quirks like that which my own staff wish I would stop, LOL.

Unless I am mistaken, Optimus can be used for flashing a bricked discrete GPU vBIOS. If you have a system with a MUX, it has to be set in a mode that uses the iGPU as the primary display adapter to use it or the iGPU is disabled. My desktop is capable of using both, but I have no desire for using the iGPU other than the example I gave. The rest of the time it may as well not even exist because I no use for it apart from flashing a bricked discrete GPU vBIOS.

 

yes true, Optimus was Nvidia and AMD was Enduro. I know "MSHybrid" has uh "replaced" the feature set, but I don't understand WHAT it has replaced other than a naming system change.

And yeah it's just a habit for a public space with me xD

 

If that turned out to be your worst habit, I'd say you're doing better than most.

As far as the bolded part goes, that makes two of us, LOL. But, this is one of those things for which there are two good explanations as to why I do not have the answer: (1) I don't know; and, (2) I don't care.

 

HA couldn't have said it better myself.

 

Try enabling in NVCP, show notification tray icon. I think GFE might show as an option in the tray icon with the NVCP. Can't confirm because I don't have GFE installed at the moment..

 

I forgot to post back, last night after i updated my drivers and rebooted the system tray icon came back to life i seriously don't understand how and why it came back only now but it's fine..

 

I know some people like it, but I do not want GFE on my systems. Shadowplay is a nice feature that works well, but not nice enough for me to tolerate the rest of their cancer payload. I use only @j95 GeFarts driver mods with all of the nasty folders full of bloatware and telemetry trash deleted prior to installation.

 

This might not be fair of me to ask of you, but do you know why it is that manufacturers don't include MUX switches? MUX switches seem like a perfect solution for practically everyone: use the iGPU when you want, use the dGPU when you want. Are MUX switches substantially more expensive than Optimus or dGPU-only setups?

 

MUX switches retail are like $10.

Adding them and bulk buying them probably totals to $10.

They will give every excuse why they won't, but they basically just don't want to.

 

But today there is no need for iGPU at all. You can use a flasher, take a bit longer time though Hence... Let the BGA people have it (make the BGA silicon 56/44 - aka 44% for the pure cpu). Can yoo hear me Intel?

This tell everything... From yesterday.

 

388.76 update (332 MB) here, try it out.

 

You can flash directly when switched to it. If you get a bad flash, I think you boot with one, then flip the switch while booted and then flash to fix a bad flash, but cannot remember, so don't quote me on that. Now, you want to leave ONE as stock bios, as if you flash BOTH, you then will violate the warranty. Obviously, it is safer to dump both, then just change the LN2 and keep the other as a safe boot BIOS so you ALWAYS have a usable card. It also gives you the room to play a bit and learn a bit.

 

My performance tests for v390.65, GTX1070:

- increased the maximum fps in BF3 by 8fps, no noticeable change in average fps

- decreased my 3DMark scores by 3% e.g. firestrike, 1% e.g. Timespy

- increased my opengl score in cinebench r15 from 81fps to 100fps given the new option in NVCP to select the openGL processor which i set to GTX1070

 

Your old driver must've been really old then, because that option was there for a long time.

 

that option has been in the driver for the last few versions.

 

Anybody has weird high fluctuations in GPU temps on older games like Sleeping dogs def. edition. It was under 65C, suddenly since two days it is at 75C for no reason.