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    nVidia Optimus - Any way to manually switch between GPUs?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by FelixC, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. FelixC

    FelixC Notebook Consultant

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    Apologies if this is an intensely stupid question and I've missed something blatantly simple, but so far I haven't been able to figure it out. I just got the Asus N43 (i5 460M, nVidia 435M), and while I see an option in the context menu to launch an application directly on the discrete graphics unit, and I suspect it would also automatically switch to it under load (haven't yet hat the time to try a game out on it), I haven't found any option to switch between integrated and discrete manually and independently of applications. Like, if I'd just like to have it running on the 435M all the time for whatever reasons. Power4Gear lists some power plans for the Intel integrated graphics, and there's also a dedicated control panel for it running in my taskbar, but neither seem to have any options to switch to the dedicated nVidia GPU.

    So where should I be looking?
     
  2. farful

    farful Notebook Evangelist

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    There should be an option to always use the iGPU.

    There is not an option to always use the dGPU.
     
  3. Nautis

    Nautis Switchable Graphics Guy

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    There is no way to manually switch with Optimus per-say. Optimus is meant to be automatic and seamless. It switches based on rules/profiles and monitors certain things to automatically switch.

    You can set rules/profiles for which GPU to use by right clicking the application icon and choosing "run with graphics processor" (or something like that) or using the nvidia control panel.

    Video Tutorial for more help -> Nvidia Optimus Tutorial - Youtube

    At least that is my understanding I don't have Optimus so I might be off a little.
     
  4. FelixC

    FelixC Notebook Consultant

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    Ah, alright, thanks for the info guys! It's a bit of a bummer that there's no global manual switch. The issue that kind of drew my attention is that I think that Optimus might not have kicked in with the Unity Web Player earlier today, since it seemed to be running the streaming demo with low resolution settings, big difference to the way it ran on my desktop. The Asus actually does have an LED indicator for which GPU is in use, but I only thought about the issue after the fact and I don't remember whether it was on or not. I'll check Unity again tomorrow though, I might be imagining things.
     
  5. strangerguy

    strangerguy Notebook Guru

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    You can force it use Nvidia or Intel GPU for a specific application in the NV control panel if the GPU switching is out of whack. For me I forced Optimus to use Intel IGP with IE8 because it was running on the GT420M whenever I used Youtube. It basically eating up battery power for nothing.
     
  6. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    on the GS710/B7110M clevo there is a button that changes it to the dedicated 425M but as mentioned above the idea is it knows when it needs more power and switches automatically.
     
  7. jacob808

    jacob808 Notebook Deity

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    The Toshiba X505 doesn't have the optimus user interface on the Nvidia control panel to switch between integrated or discrete gpu. The notebook is also incompatible with the new verde 260.99 driver, so I can't install it and get the optimus user interface. Any ideas what else I can disable optimus, because it makes my games unplayable when I unplug my X505.
     
  8. FelixC

    FelixC Notebook Consultant

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    Okay, I was right, the dedicated GPU won't kick in for the Unity Web Player. Worse still, starting Firefox with the Use nVidia Dedicated Graphics from the context menu doesn't seem to make a difference, still running on the integrated graphics core. It does switch for standalone games, though, just checked with Metro 2033.
     
  9. onetrev

    onetrev Notebook Enthusiast

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    Same issues for me. I have a Dell XPS 17 (L701X) with Optimus -- NVIDIA 435M. I can't seem to force the dedicated card to come on when I need it to, i.e. using the Unity Web Player, but then it comes on when I don't need it to when it is playing a basic flash video.

    Doesn't matter if I set Chrome for example to always use dedicated card in the nVidia Control Planel, or I use the context menu to set Firefox to always use it. I think this is because in the setting nVidia actually has small print below that says "the driver may override this setting". Frustrating! It is a good idea, but at this point I feel like I'm stuck using Intel Graphics when a perfectly good 1GB dedicated card is just sitting there and I have no control over it.
     
  10. PellyNV

    PellyNV Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey Onetrev,

    Optimus is enabling your GPU because you have Flash 10.1 or 10.2 installed. Because there is GPU hardware acceleration support, Optimus enables the GPU.

    As far as the UnityPlayer, I'm looking into this now. I'll respond back asap.

    Have a good one...

    Sean

    Sean Pelletier
    Senior Technical Marketing Manager - Notebooks
    NVIDIA
     
  11. JT408

    JT408 Notebook Consultant

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    yeah dude i know this sucks but it really sucks cause i got a Sager with a GT330m and when i try to play bad company 2 it detects the stupid optimus and kicks me from every game. punkbuster sucks.
     
  12. Autumn Demon

    Autumn Demon Notebook Consultant

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    Try:
    >> right-click on the flash video
    >> settings
    >> display tab
    >> uncheck "Enable hardware acceleration"

    That should turn off the gGPU for all flash apps.
     
  13. onetrev

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    Hey Sean,

    Thanks so much for looking into the Unity plugin issue. Good to know nVidia is on top of these kinds of things! Hopefully we can get it sorted out.

    Regarding Flash and Optimum, I understand the GPU kicking due the new hardware acceleration in Flash. However, I'm just thinking on battery it might be better to allow the integrated card to handle Flash since it does an addequate job of it. Just my thoughts.

    Trevor
     
  14. wdkingery

    wdkingery Notebook Enthusiast

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    i don't know what unity web player is but i do have the same complaint.
    often times when using firefox page with alot of photos or whatever tends to scroll slowly; watching a video in VLC and switching to fullscreen isn't exactly "seemless" every time.

    i don't use the battery on my laptop but maybe once a week.. the majority of the time it's sittin on my nightstand. battery and battery savings aren't a big concern; i've got a 420m that i'm typically unable to use..?
    i wanna keep this thing on at all times.
    maybe once a week do i want to conserve power.
    i own a mustang and it does 160mph; i'm not some old man that lets it just sit in the garage.
    i own an xps 15 and i didn't buy it to run on integrated graphics the majority of the time...
    :(
    signed,
    sad user waiting on a forced nvidia option

    p.s. you told one-love or whoever he is that you'd respond back asap.. that was 1.5 months ago.