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    nVidia Titan RTX

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Penchaud, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Penchaud

    Penchaud Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    Apparently this is going to be sooner rather than later.

    Is this likely to be more powerful than the 2080Ti RTX?
     
  2. Danishblunt

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    Well the real question is, does it last longer?
     
  3. Penchaud

    Penchaud Notebook Consultant

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    I'm sorry. I do not understand.
     
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    Would they release a higher tier, more expensive GPU, if it wasn't more powerful than the RTX 2080 Ti?

    Kind of a silly question to ask. I mean this thing is going to cost $2,000 USD probably.
     
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    It has more CUDA mores and more VRAM.

    it will be faster out of the box but the question is how much will it overclock?

    Also expect the price to be outrageous.

    I've owned Titan (OG), Titan X (Maxwell), Titan X (Pascal). They're great cards but I recommend getting them second hand due to price or just get the 80Ti variant of that generation.
     
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  7. Danishblunt

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    How do you even know about more cuda cores and vRAM? The card doesn't even exist yet.
     
  8. Penchaud

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    From your experience what's the performance increase between a Titan and the latest GTX card?
     
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    Titan isn't meant for consumer level GPU tasks, more a semi-pro environment that calls for more power for rendering scenes and graphics. The overlap from the Tesla series into the "prosumer" segement, like HEDp/t. As a result, it will be more expensive, and more powerful than the consumer RTX.


    That's the full reason how he knows, titans always have increased core and vram over consumer level gpus. They're more or less meant for indie development of games that may take the power of the RTX dlss engine, but can't afford a Tesla workstation.
     
  10. Ryan Russ

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    TBH it isn't worth it in my opinion. If you're going to go for a Titan, I'd definitely wait. The 2080 or 2080ti offers an intense segement of desktop capability but also keep in mind that the Titan will be faster but likely a lot more expensive, possibly into the 3000-4000$ range, but also maybe meeting or exceeding the Titan V in certain tasks.
     
  11. Danishblunt

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    I see. Well the difference between the titan XP and 1080TI was extremely small tho.
     
  12. Ryan Russ

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    It depends on the application and the usage of the Titan XP, as well. The reason it has a small advantage in games is because the majority of people will look at the XP and say "I need to get it because it's faster than x in x" but they don't look at the actual usage scenarios, like driving a 4k screen or otherwise. In certain games, the XP can add 10fps to the mix over a 1080ti with overclocking, meaning the difference for some people of motion sickness from low fps and none at with that 10fps boost.

    Essentially, the txp is a better binned 1080ti with a better system for fp16 and fp32 tasks vs the 1080ti. Overclocking allows the card to get some pretty good overhead, and for the most part it was Nvidias fault for releasing 2 titans with little difference in performance to their consumer cards that led to the bad press.

    Although, if you consider the fact that these cards are for the semi-pro who needs 3 of them to fold some sort of protein or 4 of them to render a 3d animation whereas would need an entire farm of 1080tis to do the same, it makes sense to go with the txp.
     
  13. Penchaud

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    Let's hope the Titan RTX can push more games to 60FPS on ultra settings.
     
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    The Titan Xp is GP102, it has the exact same gimped FP16 and FP64 throughput as the 1080 Ti.
     
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    Hmmm thought I read somewhere it was based on the full die and 1gb extra vram. Guess I didn't. Either way it'll have to have more vram and cuda cores than the 2080Ti if it's going to succeed a Titan V which has more cores than 2080Ti.

    In gaming, not much. Probably a few FPS at best.
    I haven't bought my last two Titan models for retail. Only the first one I did and that one actual had full FP64 performance which made it worth it.

    I've bought my Titan X (Maxwell) and Titan X (Pascal) at almost the same price as their 80Ti models of the time thanks to used market and newer GPUs being released or people wanting a quick sale.

    I wouldn't recommend a Titan V or even RTX Titan if it's priced over $1,500.

    Unless we're talking workstation workloads where the Titan X's drivers are much better than what its 80Ti counterpart would perform at:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ll-13-15-and-17.770323/page-299#post-10602012

    Yup Titan and Titan Black were the only ones that could do full on FP64. nVidia realized their Titan sales would hurt their Quadro sales and stripped away what the original Titan was meant to be.

    I think Titan V has it back with a $3,000 price tag though.
     
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  16. saturnotaku

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    IIRC, the Titan XP cost roughly 40 percent more than a 1080 Ti but wasn't nearly that much faster in gaming. Should the same hold true for RTX, its Titan variant would cost at least $1,800. You'd be throwing good money after bad.
     
  17. Danishblunt

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    What are you talking about? This therad is about the RTX titan, not volta.
     
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    Reread what I wrote. I’m telling you since Titan V has more cores than 2080Ti, it’s only natural for RTX Titan to have more cores than 2080Ti.
     
  19. Danishblunt

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    Absolutely not. I am pretty sure that if there will be a new RTX titan, it will have less cuda cores than the Volta card.
     
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    Winner, winner chicken dinner. RTX Titan has launched: 4,608 CUDA cores (vs 5,120 for Titan V) and a $2,499 price tag. Ouch.
     
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    That price tag doe

    yes...that is what I was saying.

    Titan V cores > 2080Ti cores

    Therefore RTX Cores > 2080Ti cores

    I didn't say RTX Titan cores > Titan V cores
     
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    Wasn't exactly hard to guess, given we already knew what a fully enabled TU102 looked like in Quadro RTX 8000 and 6000.
     
  23. Penchaud

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    So is this fractionally or significantly more powerful than the 2080Ti RTX?
     
  24. saturnotaku

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    You’ll have to wait for reviews but it’s probably safe to assume that it’s not going to be anywhere near twice as powerful as a 2080Ti despite costing twice as much.


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    10% more powerful for 200% of the cost.
     
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