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    nVidia drivers causing jutter?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Ethrem, Nov 5, 2015.

  1. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    So I've watched videos on my laptop before... and the experience has always been better than my TV (as it should be given that my TV has simulated 120hz, not actual 120hz unless its in 3D mode)... But I have tried watching Hulu and Amazon Prime tonight and they both gave me so much jutter it was almost unbearable... So I grabbed a Bluray and stuck it in, installed the PowerDVD software that came with my Clevo and fired it up... I told it not to sync refresh rates the first time... Crazy jutter... I went and turned off hardware acceleration... crazy jutter... I went and closed the app and told it to sync the refresh... Slightly better but still everything was jumping around on the screen.

    Did I just never notice this before? My LCD is set at 120hz, I really shouldn't be experiencing this in software mode let alone hardware... These nVidia 358.50 drivers have been really nice to me so I didn't want to change but since I don't plan on putting up a TV in my room, judder is unacceptable... Could it be the drivers or did I just miss the judder all this time? I'm not amused that my real 120hz LCD is performing worse than my old 2010 LG with "120hz" let alone my new Sony TV.

    Oh and Cyberlink is terrible... Just so you know if you didn't already... ugh.
     
  2. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Strange. For the sake of troubleshooting did you try VLC player?
     
  3. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Try a different media player. If that doesn't help, upgrade your NVIDIA drivers to the latest (358.87) as it apparently fixes some Windows 10 bugs. If that doesn't help, install an older NVIDIA driver where you didn't have this issue. If that doesn't help, it may be a hardware issue.
     
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    Guess it could be some colourspace bug? Happened before that there's been a bug in the drivers for yonks, that cause corruption if you wrote to a specific layer, that sort of thing. On EVR, for example, I generally have no problems, but sometimes subtitles are rendered to a different colour space on the same stream, and it causes all kinds of funky stuff. So yes, it could absolutely be a codec/file-format combination. And if the media-player uses EVR and you have uninstalled the indirect rendering options for the desktop, things will go badly, very badly (because then each static frame on the desktop needs to be fully rendered before anything else can be rendered. I.e., you will have stutter, and no amount of "direct rendering" options will bypass that).

    Unless the file itself is actually encoded at 25 fps, and you only thought it was smooth on the tv because of the typical super-sampling blur they add to everything (because golden saturated tones and dark halos on everything is awesome, etc).
     
  5. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Are you using Hulu/Amazon Prime on Firefox? If so, can you try them in chrome? I don't get judder in videos, though I've never used a dvd playing software on this machine. I usually use VLC and it worked.
     
  6. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    1) Please read what I have to say about CyberLink, a company that has 0 value or respect for its customers: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/avoid-purchasing-software-from-these-companies.782116/

    2) I wouldn't try VLC, it has the same kind of stutter, especially when loading WMV files, it stutters as if you were running it on a VGA card from the year 1996, even with hardware acceleration on.

    3) Regarding your concern, I have noticed the same lately with every player I tried. What solved it for me was to revert back to using Windows Media Player + the Shark 007 Advanced Codecs pack.

    After installing the Shark 007 Codec pack, it will reset all codecs to their defaults for both 64-Bit and 32-Bit, then simply click the button which says Shark 007 Recommended Settings and it will do the magic for you, no need to sit and configure anything

    Warning: Make sure you have your AV before running the Shark 007 Codec Pack installer as it contains PUPs, also turn on Eagle mode and make sure you don't blindly click next or accept any offers to only install the codecs without the crapware they contain. The codec pack itself is amazing but the PUPs are.....sigh....

    4) I wouldn't run those drivers you are using, please install the latest ones. The previous 2 driver generations have a bug where they keep the GPU at full load which causes them to overheat like no tomorrow even in basic tasks such as surfing the web or watching a movie.
     
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    If you have stutter in VLC, something is wrong with your system. I have never seen VLC stutter consistently
     
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    Try running about 5 diff. WMV files, then let me know how it goes, is it smooth steady FPS or does it look like it's in slow motion?

    This only happens with WMV files
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    There is something wrong. My display is set at 100hz and I do not experience judder with any content. I actually bought a license for one of the pro versions of cyberlink something because it was heavily discounted and got it super cheap... but other than that, I would have never used that software. It did work for me for 3D content and stuff, but the limits of reinstalling and the like, make it an undesirable option.

    Anyways, something mght have installed wrong with the drivers? I have everything enabled but my videos and the like still show at their correct framerate.
     
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    Just tried seven 10-year old wmv files I had. Some of them started without audio and audio had to catch up (which happened in other players; they're a bit corrupted from age and being on multiple HDDs through the years) but the rest played just fine, and even the ones with the starting audio issue didn't have any problems whatsoever playing smoothly.
     
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    Strange, it can be one of two things in my case then. Either it's because I am using my wife's under powered Dell Vostro for the time being or because those WMV files are HD quality ones (not old files but actual high quality videos encoded as WMV)
     
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    It's probably a combination of both. Try them again when you get your P870DM and see if they still stutter.
     
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    ..mm. Would still try to rule out any evr problems first. It depends on the .net packages, but has "fallback" modes without hw-acceleration.
     
  14. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    I'm being lazy so forgive the lack of quotes...

    I will not EVER install a codec pack on my system. This isn't KaZaA, its all video from Flash to HTML5 to Bluray... My license for Cyberlink came with the laptop so its not pirated either.

    I'm going to do a fresh install of 347.88 - and you're right about the latest drivers locking my cards, I have to disable them in device manager or reboot to get them back to 2D clocks after something kicks them up to 3D... Thank you for confirming that this is *yet another* nVidia mishap... Come on AMD... Get your act together because this is starting to look like the old days where I had to have drivers for specific games and gave up and bought a 3dfx Voodoo Banshee and low and behold, never had a driver issue again...
     
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