nvidia 560M announced! Summer 2011

NVIDIA refreshes notebook graphics with GeForce GTX 560M, attracts ASUS, MSI, Toshiba and Alienware -- Engadget



Yum yum! Optimus as well.

 

it's already available now on the Sager NP8150

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8150...ing-sager-notebook-p-2972.html?wconfigure=yes

 

It is interesting to note that only Toshiba's Qosmio x770 and Alienware's Mx17/Mx18 notebooks will have Optimus included so this is a plus towards choosing them if you care to have about 4-5 hours battery life while not gaming.

 

Overclocked 460M.

Yippeeeee!

 

Well it is more energy wise efficient and heats less so the 560m Will be able to overcloak at degrees that the 460m could not, or so i hope.

It is from stock 15% overlcoak over the 460m, i wonder how much more it can reach whiteout going black screen of death.

 

Seriously, how many times are you gonna repeat that? The GPU is meant to replace 460M, not be a supplement to Nvidia`s options of GPUs.

560M use a new GF116 core for more power optimisation. Wouldn`t be too suprised that you can overclock it almost as much as some people did with 460M (%)

 

Don't blame Kevin because you have to suck on the wrong end of an "I told you so." :laugh:

 

Now Eric got my 100% trust.

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M brag sheets - Engadget Galleries

 

We could argue about GTX 460m vs GTX 560m, but in the end the "update" should be priced nearly the same.
If not then shame on a certain company. :3

 

I don't think it's right for Engadget to label a slide showing how a GTX 560M out performs it's own little brother, the GT 540M, a "brag sheet."

 

Nvidia made those ridiculous comparison sheet, didn't they? They always make pointless comparisons, GT540M and GTX560M ain't even in the same ballpark, at least performance wise, and GTX560M equipped laptops are going to be a lot more expensive than those with GT540M. 560M is made to compete against cards like 6870M, not mid-rangers like 540M or 6770.

 

I am actually satisfied with 15% better performance for the same price and TDP, so no one is telling me anything :tongue:

 

The 560M is better than I expected, better than a MR 5870 for example. Take a look to this preview: MSI GT683R Notebook im Test Nvidia Geforce GTX 560M im Gamecheck auf notebookjournal.de

Also: YouTube - ‪nVidia GTX560M MSI GT683R Bonus Video - Benchmarks & Disassembly‬‏

 

Thanks man. Looks like a good performance boost from 460M

 

TDP has actually risen, the GTX560m has a 75w tdp, while the GTX460m has a 72w. Though I'd still like to see some temp comparisons, when I oc my 460m to 775mhz I see absolutely no temp difference, so its why I consider the 560m a meh update.

 

I'm not so sure it''s faster than the 5870M.

In the Stalker: CoP test, a CPU hungry game, the 5870M is only paired with an i5-460M, vs the 2630QM/560M combo. Not a fair fight.

 

Perhaps thinking about it this way: The 460m and 5870m were roughly equivalent to each other when they were released and benchmarked, now that the 560m is meant to replace the former with a slight performance boost, any benchmark trade-offs are now tilted in favour of the 560m, making it (marginally) faster than the last-generation 5870m.

Not a very scientific argument, but it's not completely illogical.

 

Hmm my OC'ed i5-430M and 5870 in my sig gets 200 more Vantage points (overall) than 560M + 2630QM.

 

The GenTech video of the MSI model shows a overcloaked 560M at 12% increase with

Core: 901Mhz
Memory: 1425Mhz
Shader: 1802Mhz

How is that compared to the 460m ?

The 3D Vantage Score is (560m OC)
P11647

 

Well, they have to find some way to make it look good.

 

The key difference is the overclock, if both cards are compared side-by-side all things being equal the 560m may well edge out the 5870m on more benchmarks than the 460m.

 

As i just pointed out the Overcloaked 560m did P11647 on vantage, for what's worth it. Stock 560m did P10396.

 

Vantage is but one benchmark, what I take issue with is the constant mention of an overclock for benchmarking both cards. If it's going to be a fair comparison keep both on stock clocks and pair them with the same processors, then run a few common benchmarks and see the results. My guess would be the 560m would hold a slight but distinct edge over the 5870m.

Considering that the 560m isn't yet available for retail nor in the hands of forum users, the argument can wait a few weeks until someone bothers doing a full series of benchmark runs.

 

I will agree that BF3 will kick most laptop GPU's but Skyrim might be alright if you pair it with a quad. I have a feeling Skyrim will run great on most higher end DX10 and DX 11 based mobile GPU's.

 

I'll gladly post benchmarks as soon as my gt683r comes which should be by the end of the week

 

Yes i would agree with that, i am planing on buying a new gaming notebook by the end of june, hopefully until then all the relevant data will be available so i can compare it to the 460, 470, 5870, 6970 and 485 gpus.

 

Avoid the 570M as I heard it was one of the worst Fermi GPU's nVidia ever instated due to its poor efficiency vs. power ratio.

The 5870M/560M might be a good comparison to look at. The 460M should be used a reference for the pair up as well.

6970M and 485M are guaranteed to be better than all the other four mentioned earlier by at least 20-25%, if not more in certain circumstances. However the 485M is only 5% better than the 6970M for +50% of the price tag of a 6970M so just note that...

 

What kind of card or how much better of a graphics card do you expect in a sub $1500 notebook.

 

For that money, I'd aim at the 6970M personally. However, if you are not looking at Sagers, you might need to raise a few hundred more and hit the big boys like Alienware.

 

What ? i just want to have an idea of where it stands against all of these cards, yes i do know that 6970 and 485 are better then it.

 

The cheapest I could configure a sager 8150 was around $1750 with the 6970m, which I agree for a extra $250 you get a big jump in graphics performance but unfortunately for me I was already past my budget at $1500. The sager also had much less hdd space and ram.

 

It's a optimized gtx 460 therefore in the class of the 5870 and the 460m the 6970 and 485 are in a different class. What I'm waiting to see is how far the 560m can be overclocked which will tell us how much faster it really is then the 5870 or the 460.

 

I'd still say for a fact that the 6970M and the 485M is still a league ahead of the 560M/460M/5870M/6870M.

Well in that case then I'd guess the 460M/560M is the only other true OEM option you can go for if you aren't a fan of the Sagers... There is the 6850M on the HP Envy 17, but I don't recommend that system for several reasons. However they make the Sagers upgradeable to the 6970M or the 485M from a 460M/560M if you ever feel like upgrading in the future.

 

Oh yes i was answering Asus W-T-F cat picture ;D

LOL

I am highly interested in the 560m OC potential

 

I would buy a sager but the design of the laptop is just a turn off IMO

 

so go buy an aw, m17 or m18

 

Never been an AW fan.

Instead, I went ahead to purchase a qosmio and an asus bamboo laptop

Looking to get an MSI GT683R very soon though.

 

I am pretty sure the GTX560m uses the GF106 core. The GT555m uses the older core, so I think they all are clock-boosted GF100 cores. Nvidia has done it repeatedly before, why stop now?

 

Would it be safe to say that the GTX 560M is basically a GTX 460M with higher voltage (seeing as there was no way to bump voltage on the 460Ms)?

 

Where did you get the info about 570M? I was hoping 570M will appear on the market soon and gives better performance than the 560M, laptops with 485M/6970M are either out of my budget(AW) or just aesthetically unpleasing(clevo/sager).

 

I think it's a typo, the 570m has not yet been announced, the 470m on the other hand had a fair bit of bad press on its release compared to the more favourable 460m.

 

More likely top-binned GTX 460M to keep the consumption about even I'd say.

 

My mistake yes I meant the 470M. I have never heard of the 570M.

 

I thought it was the poorly recieved GTX480m vs the GTX470m - which was faster, due to using the GF104 instead of an insanely cutdown GF100.

 

Further examination revealed the 460m could be overclocked to reach 470m speeds without paying the price premium, the 480m of course is the least popular Fermi 4-series high-end GPU because of how it compared in retrospect compared to the current king the 485m.

 

My 5870m got a GPU score of almost 7900 while on stock clocks.
Overclocked to 825/1100 almost 8900.

This 814MHz GTX560 in the vid 8300.

Nevertheless the 5870m performs well against a GPU released 1,5 years later.

 

Anybody know whether the Asus K53-3D with 560M will have 1920x1080 display? (and where I can buy one?)

It's listed as one of the models with 560M, but I can't find anything about it on the Asus website.

 

GTX560M is a joke at this point. 5870m equipped laptops are equally as fast and cost much less, and that's before overclocking them. GTX 460M was 10-15% slower than a 5870m, so Nvidia releases a 460m overclocked refresh chip that's 15% faster than the 460m? Really lame, and 'too-little-too-late.'

My 360M GTS in my old G60JX was a good GPU, but the 5870m in my G73JH and the 6970M in my M17x R3 are much better buys than their Nvidia counterparts (GTX 460m and 485m). Their lazy remarketing and re-releasing of the same old chips is really discouraging to me.

 

Wait, at the time of it's release the 5870m was AMD's top tier product. At that same time the GTX 480m was for nVidia, so not sure how / why people are comparing GTX 460 with 5870m.