nvidia 680m vs 770m whos better?

im buying a new laptop but i can decide between old laptop with 680m or new one with 770m thanks

 

The 680M is far better then the 770M my brother got an ASUS with a 770M the proformance was just sad.....get a 780M or 680M

 

680m is quite a faster card, even with slower CPU.

 

680m is 256-bits vs 192-bits 770m That alone makes for a good difference.

 

oim thinking if a buy the new asus with the 770m or and old msi gt70 used or new with 680m

 

Asus seems to be a better laptop. I'd try to get an Alienware.

 

why asus is better? msi laptops overheat?

 

Ya. but I'd get a Alienware m17x R4 with a 680m or 7970m. They are going for under $1500.

 

but msi laptops overheat alot? they have a turbo for the fan cooler no?

and no the alinware price is 1500$ for the new alw 17 with 765m with the 680m 2300$ in amazon

 

This is false. (the "that alone... " part)

You are talking about memory interface, which does contribute to how well a GPU can access its onboard graphics RAM, but it is not the only factor.
192-bit RAM with a higher clock rate can and does exceed 256-bit RAM with a lower clock rate. Really the GB/sec stat is all that matters.

Furthurmore, the memory interface really isn't the deciding factor on what a GPU can do.
An older 675m has a 256-bit RAM interface.... but the 770m with its 192-bit RAM interface equals it in memory bandwidth AND destroys it in overall performance.

This isn't to say 256-bit interfaces aren't better than 192-bit ones when all else is equal, but the point is it isn't really the only factor you must consider.

For the OP, the 770m has the following stats:
CUDA Cores = 960 @ 811MHz + boost clock
Texture fill rate = 64.9 bil/sec +
2000MHz GDDR5 @192 bit
=96.0 GB/sec Memory Bandwidth

The 680m has the following stats:
CUDA Cores = 1344 @ 720MHz
Texture fill rate = 80.6 bil/sec
1800MHz GDDR5 @256 bit
=115.2 GB/sec Memory Bandwidth

The 680m is the better overall GPU.

 

to clarify things a bit no the MSI doesn't overheat, hence satisfies the term "gaming laptop|

of course, it doesn't satisfy the term "overclocker's laptop"

as for the alienware, find it on ebay, not amazon, about $1700 with 2 months manufacturer's warranty left

Alienware M17x R4 NVIDIA GTX 680M Gaming Laptop Computer | eBay

alternatively try your luck at the marketplace

also, the meaning of turbo fan means that the fan spins at full speed, doesn't matter which laptop you get they spin at full speed when temps reach a certain point of their choice(reasonable choice), so having that turbo fan button simply means that you can let the fan spin at full speed whenever you want, but that won't change the maximum temperture the system reaches(like its not going to magically lower temps under full load compared to other machines)

 

Ok and what its the better overall between an asus with 770m with 4th generation i7 and msi with 680m and 3rd generation i7?

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680m is easy winner performance wise. MSI is also much easier to maintain and upgrade. I prefer the aesthetics of the Asus but if the prices are equal or close the MSI is the better gamer.

 

and what difference exist between msi dragon edition with 680m and the msi normal black with 680m???

 

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Both MSI and ASUS make good laptops.

If the two laptops are the same price, the MSI with the 680m is the better deal.

MSI laptops that carry the 680m overclock just fine and their cooling is more than adequate.
ASUS usually goes out of their way for cooling which is wonderful, but you usually pay a premium for the ASUS brand name.

As for which brand name is better for X... it depends on the generation and particular build.
The thinner MSI ones most certainly do not have the cooling for overclocking, but the normal ones that the 680m ship in are fine.

 

for older product lines, it normally tells more than half the story, as for new product lines only time can tell, especially when user reviews only consists of unhappy customers, the happy customer is off doing something else since the product they own is working perfectly

the ASUS brand name isn't exactly expensive though, but as far as i'm concerned their customer service is only on par with MSI/MSI reseller if they are handling the warranty

the alienware brand name however carries an expensive brand name which is worth it for "most" consumers who value their NBD warranty and build quality

 

Sorry, better would have been "that in it self already makes for good difference" It means that you have more potential when overclocked to annihilate the 770m

 

why confuse him?

Msi is better for gaming

 

Lol im confused now hahahaha. Really im between 2 machines asus g750 with i7 4th gen and 770m or msi gt70 with the same specs and same price. But the msi 0ne caugth my attention because IT has the 680m. The only thing i worry about its the cooler system in the msi. Because i never has issues with the dual fans con my past asus laptops. I hear ppl saying msi sucks IT overheat and other ppl saying msi dont overheat if u dont overclock... I dont know all my opcions cost the same price im justo worried about the cooling system

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look down on my sig, the GPU is overclocked by 1/3, the CPU is an ES XM version of the i7 3720QM, it doesn't overheat, without CPU overclocks the max temp hoovers around high 80s with both prime95 and msi kombuster, no throttling, so yes i can safely say the cooling system is adequate, how else would you define gaming laptop? one that overheats under gaming is not a gaming laptop

on a side note, overheating under prime95 and kombuster is understandable since it is putting pressure way above what a game does to the system, those stress tests are only to test for the system's maximum thermal capability but does not reflect it in games even if it overheats, hence the GT70 is more than adequate since it doesn't overheat in those areas(both CPU and GPU stressed at the same time), and obviously won't be happening in games

i'll elaborate further, all gaming notebooks don't overheat under gaming, it gets reasonably hot, but won't overheat-> causing a thermal shutdown, but it might (not in your case) overheat in stress test programs on both components simultaneously, which no games will do so

 

I think most people are referring to the plethora of online reviews of the most recent 780M models of the GT60/70 overheating. 680M is quite a cooler GPU, and 675MX more so.

 

Don't get caught up in brand names... Alienware does not rate among the best IMHO. Clevo is the clear winner unless you are absolutely convinced you want an AMD GPU.
I'd even place MSI second before Alienware.

Each to his own I guess. Then again I've worked on, repaired, and RMA'd more laptops than most people have ever seen.

 

Ok for the conclusión msi its better than asus notebooks and the msi g70 with the 680m is better than the gt70 with 770m?

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MSI's are good machines (currently enjoying the one in my sig), and the GT60 or GT70's don't overheat or even run particularly hot. They aren't as sleek as the ASUS or Alienware design in appearance, but are durable and easy to work on.

I've owned several of all three brands, plus a couple Clevo's, Toshiba, HP's and ACER's, and honestly none really had any issues over the years.

Get the 680m over the 770m for speed, it is as stated by others quite a bit faster. This is of course assuming max gaming performance is what you are after... if aesthetics matter and you don't ever plan to work on it or upgrade it, the Asus G series is a solid choice.

EDIT: skimmed back through thread and to answer your direct questions, yes, for gaming the 680m with 3rg gen i7 will be noticeably faster than the 770m with 4th gen i7.

 

GTX 680M is about 10% faster than GTX 770M. Not miles ahead but it is faster.

GTX 680M is a better choice because it is a low clocked GK104. GTX 770M is a high clocked GK106, meaning they have already tapped out some of its potential. GTX 680M have great potential

 

thanks for all now i only found 1 used red edition and other refurbished black edition of the g70 with 680m. go for the refurb? because new is out of my budget and prefer to go for the asus

 

check warranty, if both does not have warranty, go for the cheaper one unless you find one looking better than the other, afterall its only about the colour, assuming that both have the other components being identical(ram, storage)

 

120 days of warranty + gaming mouse lol

 

I have the Asus G750JX with a 770M. The GPU is overclocked @ +135Mhz Core / +450Mhz Memory and the absolute max temp I have ever reached was 80 degC (after about 8 hours or so of gaming and benches). The ASUS cooling system is EXCELLENT and most important for me - it's nice and quiet.

An overclocked 770M will beat a stock 680M (albeit marginally), but the 680M once oc'ed will destroy it. It all depends on how much performance you want.
For me, the overclocked 770M performs well enough, but I care more about temps and noise levels than I do about performance.

 

Cooling pad may help the msi gt70?

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Then buy a msi laptop, mod it, and install pherein fan control tools.
You'll have less noise and heat than your asus, with a more power hungry card.