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    nvidia 9600m gt ddr2 heating up

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by willthepro, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. willthepro

    willthepro Notebook Geek

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    I play GTA san Andreas for about 30-45 minutes and my gpu ^^ gets to about 89 degress celcius so i have to stop playing incase i over heat

    what can i do about this? my gaming is getting ruined because i have to keep pausing as i dont want my pc to overheat. Both the cores also reach about 88 degress
     
  2. RaYYaN

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    Which laptop do you have??

    From what I've read such high temps are common among the DDr2 version of the card.

    I have the DDR3 one, and today my GPU hit 91 after an hour of grid :eek:
    I propped it up, and turned on my rooms fan, so air blew directly under the laptop, and the temps dropped to ~70-75 :D

    But both cards are known to hit high temps.

    try propping your notebook up on a book or sumthing, so there is more room under it for air to pass and see if it makes a difference.

    Good Luck
     
  3. willthepro

    willthepro Notebook Geek

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    laptop is the acer 5930g, 2ghz dual core p7350, 3gb ddr2 ram
     
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    somhavoc Notebook Consultant

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    Also, try checking out of you have the latest bios for your card. Latest for that card should be 62.94.1a.0.19 I think it helps the temp. issues.
     
  5. willthepro

    willthepro Notebook Geek

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    im no good with the technical stuff, i went onto nvidia website and i loked for updates. it said go to the acer site, i looked but couldnt find the patch for the card :confused:

    where should i go to find it and do i just download it and it works or do i have to do anything else?

    thanks
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Those temps are still ok. How is the ventilation?
     
  7. willthepro

    willthepro Notebook Geek

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    i just keep my laptop on a table and i dont have anything blocking it. The vents on the bottom are just there and i have nothing blocking them and i have nothing blocking the back fan vent
     
  8. RaYYaN

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    ^^^^^^^^^^

    That's important on this laptop

    @will,
    You have the DDR3 card same as me, not the DDr2 card ;)
    The best thing to bring down temps short of a notebook cooler is to prop up the notebook on some books or something, and if possible position a fan near it.

    Try this out, and see how it affects your temps.

    Mine were/are like yours when the laptop just sits on the desk, but I lower them by doing what I said above

    Also what so you use to monitor your temps???

    Good luck
     
  9. willthepro

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    to monitor my temps i use cpuid hardware monitor

    with no games running it runs at about 65-70

    if i put a fan near it, where should the fan be blowing, underneath to fllow better airflow under the laptop where there is less space?

    thanks people youre really helping. Where should i find the latest bios though?

    thanks
     
  10. Rakkzz

    Rakkzz Notebook Guru

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    You should be able to find them on your manufacturers website.

    EDIT: http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/notebook/as_5930.html
    I think that's the right one?
     
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    ratchetnclank Notebook Deity

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    acer 5930G has cooling issues.
     
  12. RaYYaN

    RaYYaN Back on NBR :D

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    Before you put a fan, do this

    Find two books of equal thickness, and place them on the back edges of the notebook so the back is up, then you can (if you want) place something on the front end so the whole notebook is raised up.

    Once it is raised up you can place the fan, so that it blows the air under the laptop that you just raised up

    Good luck

    PS- I;m sure the bios is on acers download site, but I wouldn't mess with my BIOS unless I was sure what I was doing
     
  13. willthepro

    willthepro Notebook Geek

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    i cant find anything to do with the bios or my graphics card on the downloads bit :S
     
  14. Rakkzz

    Rakkzz Notebook Guru

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    http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/notebook/as_5930.html

    Just scroll down to the latest BIOS version under the 'BIOS and Guides' section. If you're unsure about doing this, contact your manufacturer before doing anything - and back up any documents you don't want to lose.
     
  15. RaYYaN

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    I say don't worry too much about the BIOS ATM, I don't think it will make a big diff.

    Try what I told you in my last post, and see how it affects your temps
     
  16. willthepro

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    what do i do once ive downloaded the latest bios? as im a kid, my parents will think im silly messing around with phong up acer etc so please tell me
     
  17. Rakkzz

    Rakkzz Notebook Guru

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    They'll probably have technical assistance chat on their website, or you can e-mail them.
    I would recommend what RaYYaN said to do and see if it makes a difference instead of doing something where you don't know what you're doing.
     
  18. RaYYaN

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    Dude, I'm a kid too :p (sorta :D)

    Try the tip I siad before, about raising the notebook when gaming.
    It has helped me to control my temps, and I haven't messed with my BIOS, or had to worry about calling up acer.

    Give it a try, you can always get the BIOS later and try whatever it is you want to try

    EDIT
    @rakkzz
    lol, I just realized I said the same thing as you
    My bad, so tired can't even read properly :p
     
  19. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    I think you should consider something else first.
    Your idle temperatures (at least that's what I extrapolated from when you said that no games are running) for the gpu are higher than what they should be.
    I have the exact same laptop as you do and my card idles at about 45-46 degrees C (if I watch a video or something along those lines, the temps sometimes go into the 50-ies but quickly settle back down when the laptop coolers kick in).
    This is with a Zalman cooler beneath it (but as a result, my notebook fans are NOT active, or are extremely low at these temperatures ... and if they were set to full blast, the temps would be about another 10 degrees lower ... the inner coolers only come on if the temps go into 50 degrees C territory for the most part ... that's for the gpu of course).

    When I played Bioshock with all settings maxed out WITHOUT the Zalman cooler, the temperatures would reach about 71 to 75 degrees C.
    With the Zalman cooler running, the temps are 61 to 65 degrees C after several hours of Bioshock maxed out.

    Idle temps for the card should be in the mid 40-ies, NOT mid 60-ies.
    What the Zalman cooler does is effectively not forcing the laptop fans to run as often while keeping the temps on the same lower levels like when the inner laptop fans are on (which is mid 40-ies for the gpu and low/mid 50-ies for the cpu).
    And once the laptop goes under load (gaming or working in 3ds Max which requires both gpu and cpu processing power) the inner laptop coolers come on, and Zalman cooler effectively brings down the temps by 10 degrees since it's running with the inner coolers in parallel.
    :)

    I recommend you try cleaning out your laptop vents first and foremost.
    Look for a cleaning guide on this site.
    My laptop is just 2 months old. The temps remain the same (what I mostly did was vacuum the air vents and the Zalman vents).
    For you, I'd recommend you buy a can of compressed air and use it to clean out the vents of your laptop.

    Also buying a cooler such as Zalman (or making your own cooler) that would help further bring down the temps by 10 degrees would be advisable.
    :)

    As for updating the 9600m GT GDDR3 bios ...
    Hm ... I would be interested in doing that if it actually brings down the temps further more, but is it possible that whoever suggested that was actually referring to the regular motherboard bios that would activate the fans ahead of time and thus reduce the temps?
    If so, I must caution that the 9600m GT (at least up until this particular case) doesn't have overheating issues like the 8600m GT and to my knowledge the new motherboard bioses don't activate the fans in the same manner like it was done on the 8xxx series of gpus.

    P.S. The 5930G is a newer Gemstone series of laptops from Acer that generally don't have bad cooling (which was associated with their previous line).
     
  20. willthepro

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    ive just put a vacuum cleaner over the air vents and it now runs at 50-55 degrees idle. This still isnt good enough though. I may buy a cooler as im not confident with cleaning out my fans after reading the guide and i dont know where i can buy compressed air in the UK.
     
  21. Rakkzz

    Rakkzz Notebook Guru

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    You'll be able to get it at most DIY stores. Places B&Q and Homebase will most likey sell it, just hunt around for it.
     
  22. willthepro

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    is there an age limit to buying it, e.g you have to be over 18? im 15 but there is a homebase about 2 minutes away so i could go out and get some if i know what im after...
     
  23. Rakkzz

    Rakkzz Notebook Guru

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    I don't see why there should be, I mean you can buy pressurized cans like deoderant (which is even flammable) without trouble.
     
  24. willthepro

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    as i dont want to take my laptop apart (unless somebody has done it on this laptop and it is easy) can i just pray the air into the vents and it will clean?
     
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    Rakkzz Notebook Guru

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    Or try what I mentioned as it is the cheapest and least risky method to cool the notebook when gaming

    At least try it and see if it affects your temps under load

    My card idles around 45-52 degrees
     
  27. Deks

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    Using a compressed air on the air vents will probably bring down the temperatures by another 5 degrees or so (vacuuming can only accomplish a certain amount of cleaning).

    Idle gpu temps for 9600m GT GDDR3 inside 5930G laptop are about 45 degrees (lower if the room temp is lower).
    You cannot go lower than that really unless you buy a decent laptop cooler that will bring down the temps by another 10 degrees (but this will only be noticeable when you game ... and you maximum gpu temps shouldn't go above 75 degrees WITHOUT a laptop cooler ... 65 deg C with a cooler).