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    nvidia gtx 560m at 1080p vs nvidia gt 555m at 720p

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by alienlover11, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. alienlover11

    alienlover11 Notebook Consultant

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    do you think the 555m will play better at 720p then the 560m can at 1080p? or are they about the same or is the 560m better. Please don't give me links to specs and notebookcheck. I want actual experience. If it helps I am referring to the m14x and the sager np8130.
     
  2. alienlover11

    alienlover11 Notebook Consultant

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    bump

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  3. hawk1410

    hawk1410 Bird of Prey

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    I dont know about the 555m but i can tell that the 6770m performs slightly worse than my 6970m at 720p(i have the 6970m with 1080p and my brother has an HP with a 6770m with a 720p). Since the 555m is only slightly worse than the 6770m i think it will also perform much better than 560m at 768p.
     
  4. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    at 720p the gt 555m is going to max out most games, at 900p the performance is going to be the same as the gtx 560m at 1080p
     
  5. alienlover11

    alienlover11 Notebook Consultant

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    Really? Thats awesome. I am going with the m14x then. Thanks for your help!
     
  6. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    I would get neither, just simply suck it up and pay for the NP8150 with the 6970m upgrade
     
  7. alienlover11

    alienlover11 Notebook Consultant

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    As much as I would LOVE to do that I am only fifteen and 1,199 has taken me a year to save.
     
  8. Mr_Mysterious

    Mr_Mysterious Like...duuuuuude

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    How long have you been researching the M14x? It's known to have a very horrible screen, so that takes away the point of gaming :confused:

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  9. alienlover11

    alienlover11 Notebook Consultant

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    I have been researching it since it came out. And it actually has deep hocks and great viewing angles. It just has trouble with purple and teal. No biggie. I have never used a great screen so I won't know what I'm missing. It does have vibrant colors from what I've read as well.
     
  10. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    This question has no answer.

    720p vs 1080p is not always the same demand depending on the source.

    A game like HL2 would run just as easy on both, but a game like Crysis may be considerably harder in 1080p.

    At any rate I would not play in 720p or use a 720p screen.
     
  11. alienlover11

    alienlover11 Notebook Consultant

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    Personally i have no problem playing on 720p screen.
     
  12. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I cant use 720P because I use my computer for more than games. I browse the web, I do photoshop, I often need every single pixel of a 1080p screen for workflow.

    If the machine was only for portability sake and only for minor gaming and web browsing I would be ok with it (id get a netbook) but for my main laptop and desktop 1080p+ is a must.
     
  13. alienlover11

    alienlover11 Notebook Consultant

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    Ahh I see. Well I don't use Photoshop often so I'll be fine.
     
  14. DeadOfKnight

    DeadOfKnight Notebook Enthusiast

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    Since Dell bought Alienware the build quality has been getting cheaper and cheaper. When Alienware moved to the Dell store they have been loading crapware onto the systems. I have owned 3 Alienwares and I'll never go back to them again, they have disappointed me twice since my first experience with them. I build my own desktops now and choose to go the thin and light route for laptops. But if you want a good gaming notebook take a look at this one instead, it's a much better value, dollar for dollar:

    Newegg.com - ASUS G Series G53SW-XN1 Notebook Intel Core i7 2630QM(2.00GHz) 15.6" 6GB Memory 500GB HDD 7200rpm DVD Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M
     
  15. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    nah it isnt, last year it was a good buy, now.... not at all.

    the NP8130 can be had for less than 1200, this is the best buy right now

    however we must never forget that a 5770 and gts 450 were never made to game on 1080p, however a 6850 and a gtx 560 can cope better at it, they are also not top performers. Now lets do a little swap

    5770 = 5870m

    gts 450 = gtx 460m = gtx 560m

    gtx 560 = gtx 485m

    6850 = 6970m

    and imagine the gt 440 (gt 555m) gaming at 1080p
     
  16. alienlover11

    alienlover11 Notebook Consultant

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    I will not buy an asus because they have horrible customer support. And if you read the reviews on that laptop, almost every one is doa.
     
  17. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Dont buy an Asus from Best Buy or Newegg get it from a reseller like GentechPC. I have owned several and nothing but top grade A+++ support.

    Nothing was ever DOA or defective.
     
  18. alienlover11

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    Ahh well I am pretty prejudiced against asus at this point so.....
     
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    DeltaForceMiddy Newbie

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    I was considering getting this model ASUS laptop, but as far as truly "portable" gaming goes I think the Alienware m14x makes up for being overpriced by being lighter/smaller and having a better battery life. I've only ever owned 15" laptops and they are just a tad bit too big IMO. If only they could put a 460M or a 560M in a 14"..........
     
  20. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    Same. Hell, I haven't been able to run games at my laptop's native res for years. I'm stuck with 1024x768 and I don't notice it.

    I my new laptop runs games at 720p and high, I will be so happy. Even if it isn't the native res.
     
  21. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Why not consider the option to game with the GTX 560M @ 720p? Is that not the most logical conclusion?

    The Gt 555M is still just the speed of a GTX 260M or 9800 GT, no matter how you slice it. The GTX 560M is 50% faster, and the 1080p screen opens up the options to play at a plethora of resolutions, at all of which the 560M will greatly outclass the weaker GPU. For instance: 1600x900.

    Regardless of resolution, the 555M will be right at the minimum GPU requirement for almost every major game coming out for the rest of the year and onward.
     
  22. alienlover11

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    Well when you game at lower resolutions, doesn't it make the image look stretched out? That's what im trying to avoid.
     
  23. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    I guess this is my overarching point:

    It's now 2011. A year ago, I would have considered the GT 555M to be an amazing GPU for the M14x's 1366x768 resolution.

    But half way through this year, I have my doubts. The trend, moving into 2012, will be for the average game's System Requirements to list the 8800/9800 GT as the minimum GPU, a three year old desktop chip, which is equal to the 555M. So choosing the 555M immediately puts you behind the 8-ball, as far as the hope of gaming with decent settings even a year from now.

    I preach that you should ALWAYS choose the most powerful GPU in your price range, all other considerations be damned. If the 560M is in your price range, what sense does it make to instead buy a GPU which is 50% slower? You are currently deciding this based on native resolution, instead of graphics horsepower.

    Right now, the 555M is compromising detail settings, even at 1366x768. Right now, the 560M can run every game on the market at 1920x1080, even if you must run it on High, instead of Ultra. Guess what? The 560M, pushing out a mix of Medium/High @ 1080p looks sharper, and will still run better than what the 555M will push out at 768p. So, let's look ahead, a year from now. The 560M will be gaming on Med/High at 1600x900, and the 555M will be.... what? Below system requirements, gaming at something lower than x768, with medium settings, at best.

    After considering all of these factors, I'm failing to see why anyone would tell you to choose the GT 555M equipped machine.
     
  24. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    No. There's minimal blur, but it's never worth going with a lower resolution screen solely for games. The higher the DPI of your screen, the better it will look in non-native resolution. Often times due to the sheer quality difference between many 1080p and 720p displays, gaming in non-native res on a 1080p display looks better than gaming in native res on a 720p display.

    High resolution benefits everything you do with the laptop, because it affects how many windows you can fit onscreen. Don't sacrifice that just to make a tree in a game look better. 720p in 14" or 15.6" screen makes things too big, and that resolution doesn't really justify the purchase of a $1200 computer.

    Go with the Sager NP8130 with the 1920x1080 display. Then game at 1280x720. Heck I game at 960x600 when I have to. It won't distract from the gameplay unless you like to pay attention to every single detail.
     
  25. alienlover11

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    Well thanks for your help guys. Maybe I will go with the sager after all. God know I want that 95% gamut screen......
     
  26. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    To add a +1 for going with the highest-quality screen you can: Playing games at a lower-than-native resolution is not an issue at all. Playing Crysis at 720p on a 95% gamut 1080p display is perfectly fine. If you didn't know it was running at 720p, I'd wager you would guess it was a higher resolution.
     
  27. alienlover11

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    Thats good. I should order it from malibal on monday. Cant wait I haven't played bbc2 for 2 months :O
     
  28. Kevin

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    You definitely made the correct decision.

    Watch and see what 555M owners are saying 6 months from now.
     
  29. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    alienware has a strange effect on its users, its more like apple to the general population
     
  30. alienlover11

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    yes especially when battlefield 3 comes out.
     
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