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    overclicking nvidia 8600gt with riva tuner

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by alkaeda, Sep 17, 2007.

  1. alkaeda

    alkaeda Notebook Evangelist

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    1.Does anyone know of a guide i can use to overclock this card (over**** when games run, underclock on desktop)? Ive opened the programs and cant seem to find controls for overclocking
    2.What are safe overclocks to have for the 8600?
    3.Is there a decent program that continually measures the gpu temp and warns me if it gets too high?
     
    alkaeda, Sep 17, 2007
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  2. ZipZugger

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    Perhaps this could help you out a little bit:

    http://www.vaguesoft.com/users/dwood/blog/tutorials/rivatuner2

    There are different programs, including rivatuner, which can be used to monitor your GPU temps. I don't dare to comment on the accuracy of those readings though.

    Also, it seems there is some confusion on wheather or not you can overclock with the 163.44 Nvidida fordceware drivers or not using a mobile 8xxx GPU. 158.xx drivers should work fine though.
     
    ZipZugger, Sep 17, 2007
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    pics coming........

    Computer : Acer Aspire 5920G
    CPU : T7300 @ 2.0ghz @ 2.0ghz
    Memory : 2048 667mhz
    GPU : 8600m GT 256mb GDDR3
     
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    I sure as hell can not overclock my 8600 GT (Macbook Pro) with the 163.44 drivers and the new Rivatuner 2.04. Which sucks.
     
    Cinner, Sep 17, 2007
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    16x.xx driver don't allow user to overclock thier graphic card.
     
    nic., Sep 17, 2007
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    "overclicking nvidia 8600gt with riva tuner"

    OverclIcking..... well...this should be interesting to witness... :D
     
    kowell, Sep 17, 2007
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  8. Cinner

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    Can't this be hacked somehow?
     
    Cinner, Sep 17, 2007
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    i saw people stating that they could overclock their 163 drivers with new riva tuner... alkaeda, if i were u, i'd just wait, look around, gain some knowledge perhaps before u do something irreversible, hopefully not. to monitor the temps, u can use riva tuner, u can also use notebook hardware control to get the temps of hdd and cpu. nobody can tell u the safe clocks, cuz every chip is different and a lot of factors play a role when it comes to overclock, good hands are always welcomed...
     
    Mimino, Sep 17, 2007
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    lmao @kowell
    Aren't we being a bit fussy.. :D
     
    ronkotus, Sep 17, 2007
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    yeah oddly enough i can overclock my go7600 using rivatuner, i cant using ntune though. so is this problem isolated to newer cards?
     
    SideSwipe, Sep 17, 2007
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    If you start overclocking and then install the 163.44 driver, you would still have the card overclockt!
     
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    I kinda doubt that. But hopefully someone will confirm/deny this :)
     
    Cinner, Sep 17, 2007
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    hirush Notebook Evangelist

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    At least for myself I got overclocked video card with 15x.xx driver then core and mem speed set back to default through upgrading to 16x.xx driver... How I wish I'm one of those lucky people to be able to overclock with 16x.xx driver :D
     
    hirush, Sep 17, 2007
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  15. Mimino

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    why? u don't consider urself lucky right now that u still have a video card that is not fried?
     
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    hirush Notebook Evangelist

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    If such event does happen it would suck so much. But I tend to do more conserved overclocking than doing with extreme overclocking. And I also like to underclock my video card in web surfing or office works then overclock a bit to push smoother frame rate in newer FPS game. Exteme overclocking only be done to know video card overclock-bility and once it's been done I won't bother it anymore.
     
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  17. Mimino

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    yeah, i see ur point! i agree with u, but we all paid money for our 8600 knowing it is not a hi-end card :) guess, that's why a lot of people overclock it
     
    Mimino, Sep 17, 2007
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    It seems that you're overclocking on desktop video card is it right moddyguru? If that's so mobile video card is not officially supported by RivaTuner program and athour has repeatedly say he won't bother with mobile video card support at this point.
     
    hirush, Sep 17, 2007
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    The 8600M GT shown in the screencaps is a mobile GPU, otherwise it would have been an 8600 GT without the "M".

    We need to spread the word about ppl o/c'ing their laptops. In a way it makes more sense since we can't replace our cards like the desktop ppl can if we want more performance.

    On the frying issue. I've never heard anyone frying anything just because of software overclocking. I've fried a chip or two but that has always been because of cooling modifications on the hardware gone bad and has nothing to do with the o/c. As long as you don't play with voltages and your overall temperature in the computer doesn't rise significantly due to o/c and voltage modification the worst thing that will happen is a crash and a reboot.
     
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  21. Mimino

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    ok, as far as the video card, but what about the mobo and high temps?
     
    Mimino, Sep 17, 2007
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  22. moddyguru

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    Nope its real deal!
     
    moddyguru, Sep 17, 2007
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  23. hirush

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    sorry for jumping on assumption moddyguru. What OS and laptop you have?
     
    hirush, Sep 17, 2007
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    Of course I agree that a notebook is more sensitive due to the restricted airflow and overall temperature can be an issue. Overclocking your GPU will however not affect your overall temperature that much. You can monitor your chipset temp and CPU temp to see what effect the gpu temp has on other temperatures in the system.

    Notebooks are designed with a margin for temperatures. For example, if you only have a 1,5 Ghz CPU and a 5200rpm HDD in a system that supports 2,4 Ghz CPU and 7200rpm, the installing of the latter will probably have a higher effect on system overall temperature than o/c'ing your GPU. You can also underclock or undervolt your CPU to decrease heat, in games the GPU of notebooks is by far the most limiting factor.

    Also, most notebooks I ever used shut themselves down when temperature readings get critical in the system.

    That said, overclocking isn't everyone's cup of tea. If you are happy with what you got and don't like the hassle of tweaking with GPU clock speeds that's fine. But for some of us it is a hobby, and the risks as I see it are often exaggerated.
     
    ZipZugger, Sep 17, 2007
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    good points u got there. sometimes the return(fps) is not worth the risk(hurting the gpu). realistically, by how much did ur in-game fps increase? (i don't mean the statistical benchmarks, i'm talking about the eye-noticeable difference)
     
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    Well my M1330 along with the attatched GPU doesn't arrive untill tomorrow so I'll have to wait to try that one out. My old notebook isn't worth overclocking anymore since the GPU is too old.

    I didn't buy the notebook for gaming but I enjoy tweaking the software and hardware to max out performance. From desktop experience I know that overclocking can get you a real performance boost, especially with mid-range cards that are underclocked from stock. How much real-life performance you can boost depends on the card of course, but for example with a card like the 8400M GS which is crippled by it's memory bandwith but has a memory chip with good potential for higher clock speeds, an overclock can be the difference of making a game playable or not.
     
    ZipZugger, Sep 17, 2007
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    Got the Acer Aspire 5920G
    T7300 @ 2.0ghz, 2048mb 667mhz, and a 160gb 5400rpm HDD.
    8600m GT, GDDR3, 256mb.

    Battlefield 2, 1024, All on High and anti 8x = 60-70fps
     
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  28. alkaeda

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    guys im stuck on the graphs screen how do i actually go about overclocking do i just move the sliders up and down llol? I just want a quick go to see how much of an improvement i will get then revert back to normal
     
    alkaeda, Sep 17, 2007
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