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    overlocking nvida 9600m gt

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by willthepro, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. willthepro

    willthepro Notebook Geek

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    i have an acer aspire 5930g laptop with inter core 2 due p7350 and 3gb ddr2 ram. I also have the nvidia geforece 9600m 512mb graphics card. How do i overclock this? and what are the benefits/disadvantages of overclocking?

    thanks
     
  2. stonesrubber

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    hey.........firstly..........looking at your specs .....i see no reasons why u shud overclock this beast of a card ................i have ther same card my self and i plat Crisis warhead at maxed out resolutions,.........but shiould a day come when it is not enough i thing the manufacturers are the best people to contact...................
     
  3. Deks

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    I think the best way to overclock this card (I have the 5930G myself) is through Nibitor (bios modifications).
    Of course you have to be careful ...
    I imagine it would be possible to overclock the card enough to play Crysis (for example) on native res with High settings instead of Medium (possibly more, but don't hold my word for it).

    On the other hand, virtually any other game than Crysis will work smoothly maxed out (or nearly so) on native resolution (1280x800) on that card (I'm talking about new games such as Dead Space and Fallout 3).

    For now, I don't think this card really needs overclocking.
    But if you insist in doing so (and I'm personally interested in the results given the fact I have the same machine) ... then using Nibitor is the way to go.
    Here's something that could be of use to you though:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=306119&page=6

    'Diamox86' explains roughly how he did it using Nibitor.

    Although, use the search function and try to find out more about the whole process before you proceed so you can backup the stock bios and re-integrate it should anything go wrong.
    :)

    Also ... let us know how it worked (if you decide to proceed with it) along with posting some results for FPS increase in gaming, and of course for how much did the temps increase).
     
  4. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    Come to think of it................i konw its difficult.but may be nvidia will have something to say abiout this..............i mean Nibitor is good but......is that the best way to overclock dis card......cant nvidia do something about it........n whjat abt riva tuner?.it that ny gud..........
     
  5. stonesrubber

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    come to think of it .........but is Nibitor the best way to over clock dis card..........what about riva tuner,,,,,,,,,,,,,i know its tough but i assuming nvidia have their own way of overclocking their cards...........
     
  6. Deks

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    Most of the software for overclocking gpu's don't work on 9xxx series of cards which is why flashing the bios via Nibitor (and using GPU-Z to save your present bios and make a modified one) is best.

    It is quite stupid though that Nvidia doesn't even release official drivers for their mobile series though ... that alone is an example that they obviously don't handle things the way they should.
     
  7. stonesrubber

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    Well yes.............but for us with 9 XXXX cards overclocking may become necessay......... what do we do then.........nibitor comes into play.....its the best over clocking tool.............dont u agree
     
  8. Deks

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    Yes, for now Nibitor is the best for overclocking 9xxx series of cards (if/when it becomes necessary).

    The new clocks are directly stored in the bios of the card which eliminates the need for software programs to run in the background in Windows, but at the same time, it can be problematic because if you mess up the bios, you could brick your card.
    Then again, having an original bios of the card (which would load at startup) that works would be able to rectify that issue I suppose.

    Hm ... we can also probably utilize this technique to undervolt the GPU if possible and as such further reduce the temperatures.
     
  9. RaYYaN

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    I too have this card and lappy, but with a P8400.

    I can play crysis at medium at 1280x800 but sometimes it gets laggy.

    Can some of you other 5930 owners tell me what framerate you get on Crysis

    Thanks

    Also, wouldn't using this method that involves flashing void your warranty
     
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    I see no point in overclocking when it cannot be done via software. bios level OC voids your warranty, and you cannot get more than 10-15% extra performance while leaving your card running hot thus reducing its life. and who knows maybe next year, news are going to pop out saying that the 9series are defective
     
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    Why.............do................you.............. write.......like that?
     
  12. TehSuigi

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    I'm officially never overclocking my GPU specifically because of the Nvidia thermal issues - I'd rather pay to upgrade my MXM card and keep my system stable and within specification than risk a meltdown.
     
  13. RaYYaN

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    LOL

    Mine already runs hot on stock. :D
    I've hit 90 degrees a number of times when gaming :eek:

    I just hope that's just normal, and that they aren't defective
     
  14. Deks

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    90 degrees when gaming?
    Lol ... that's pretty high if you ask me.
    Mine was able to reach 75 degrees at maximum load if I'm not mistaken and I have the 5930G as well ...

    TehSuigi
    I wouldn't say that overclocking the 9600m GT GDDR3 is necessary.
    At the same time though, I wouldn't worry about thermal issues too much in these newer cards (for now).
    If you know what you're doing, then there should be no issues.
    Plus if you undervolt the gpu/cpu, apply thermal paste and buy (or make) a laptop cooler, I'd say temperatures even under overclock won't present a problem because there won't be significant raising in them.

    Anyone who is performing overclocking should be aware that it raises temperatures in the system, so measures should be taken to reduce them.
    And besides, if you perform most of the cooling procedures (undervolting/laptop cooler/paste) and overclock BOTH the cpu and gpu, the temps would probably be on par if not slightly lower/higher than what they were on stock.

    But you also have to ask yourself if the overclock is necessary and just how much do you gain with it.
     
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    I hit 90 once, when I was playing in a way that the bottom of the lappy had no airflow.

    Now, normally I hit no more than `82 degrees when gaming.

    Also, I agree that overclocking the DDr3 version of this card is unnecessary, I for one can max at almost all games at 1280x800 usually with some anti-aliasing as well, and get some good playable framerates

    @Deks, what do you think of your acer's screen, especially when watching movies???
     
  16. Deks

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    When watching movies on my Acer?
    I think it's just fine.
    I would have preferred a LED back-light because it's far more efficient, but this is also good.
    And besides, in about 2 and a half years, LED back-lights should become more or less a standard.
    :)
     
  17. TehSuigi

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    Deks, I'm on a 9500M GS - basically a renamed 8600M GT, possibly with all the heat issues it presents.
    That being said, it does run very cool - 73 was the highest I saw after looping 3DMark06 thrice.
     
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    Well..........i suppose if they do come out saying the 9 series r defective then they'l make us buy its replacement.................as for now the extra 15% or whatever is the only thing u can get out of a 9xxx card..........so u might as well take it.............as for software..............nibitor is better than Riva tuner anyday.....dont u agree.....................if not u beta have some funky *** software beta then nibitior which 99% of the people din't know about.......
     
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    ^^^^^^^

    I haven't heard anything about them being defective yet......

    Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best :D
     
  20. Deks

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    Well, thus far we really have no reason to think the 9600m GT is defective.
    For one thing, the design while similar to 8600m GT is still quite different in configuration and about 20% (or more) faster (the DDR3 version that is).

    And even if the gpu is running on 90 deg. C when gaming for some people, I think this card was probably meant to withstand those temps (given the fact it does get quite warm already while gaming ... plus let's not forget that Nvidia made it in the 65nm manuf. process and not 55nm as they did with the 9650).
     
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    So the 9600m gt 512 ddr3 is safe? Mine is overclocked and can run up to 105 if I do not prop it up, but 95 is normal (70-80 under idle). When it got past 105, it underthrottled... which I would have expected a lot sooner.

    Oh, and Crysis is why I overclock it.

    For now I am going to try to get a fan put it where the gpu is, or hope for a way to modify a c90s bios to turn the fans on sooner than 60 for the cpu.
     
  22. Deks

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    That's highly unusual.
    My 9600m GT gddr3 idles at about 43 deg C, and goes up to around 70 to 75 deg C under full load.

    Before I got Zalman, after playing Bioshock for about 2 hours, my gpu maxed out at 71 deg C.
    With Zalman, after 2 hours of Bioshock, the gpu was at 61 deg C.

    I have Acer 5930G.
     
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    Deks, Acer has really improved their GPU cooling in the Gemstone/Gemstone Blue series notebooks. I have to try real hard to get my GPU above 75.
     
  24. Deks

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    True, but you also have to take into consideration that we are talking about differences of 30 degrees C between my system and the one that 'bobbyb' has (whichever he may have).

    Doesn't that seem too big of a difference?
     
  25. TehSuigi

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    If Bobbyb's using a C90S, that's a desktop system shoehorned into a 15.4" chassis, so of COURSE it's gonna run hot!
    I'd say it's entirely possible. I hear of people idling in the 70s, then notice that my GPU is a cool 51 on idle with PowerMizer.
     
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    hmmmmmmmmmmm..............im also concidering........... to overlcokc.............. mi 9600m :) shoul i do tat?.................... what you guys opinios........................?